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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 11:34:56 GMT -5
I think you just called Shakespeare American.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 31, 2010 11:35:53 GMT -5
I think you just called Shakespeare American. No, I used him as a reference to the great story-tellers of history. Crime and Punishment is a Russian novel as well. And the OP is French. When the argument is that an ending has to be an open one to actually be imaginative, unconventional or leave an audience thinking, it's much easier to point out all the greatest writers of history where that was unequivocally not the case. |
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Post by MCMGM on Dec 31, 2010 11:42:46 GMT -5
To everyone who's complaining about open endings, I have two words for you: GROW UP. Do you, in life, ALWAYS get all the answers? Is everything tied up in a neat little box with a bow? No. Why can't a director use artistic license to do something that's more reflective of life? Or, hey, just end a movie in an unconventional way? Are you so afraid of thinking, contemplating the ending, filling in the blanks yourself? It's not a cheap way out, and it's not lazy writing; it's making art interactive, making the audience part of the story rather than passive observers. Really, people ... show some initiative and imagination. Jed Shaffer ~ And people wonder why this country's culture is the laughing stock of the planet ... You're telling other people to grow up? That's kinda hilarious. |
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Post by hollywood on Dec 31, 2010 11:42:53 GMT -5
Sing me up with the "It all depends on the execution" camp.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 31, 2010 16:07:17 GMT -5
I don't mind open endings, As long as it fits in with the movie.
But when they shove open endings in there for the sake of having an open ending, That annoys me
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 31, 2010 20:08:14 GMT -5
That SUV episode had some sort of online poll gimmick attached to it. That's why they didn't pronounce the verdict. And that's a good example of how to do an open ending.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 1, 2011 0:38:10 GMT -5
That SUV episode had some sort of online poll gimmick attached to it. That's why they didn't pronounce the verdict. And that's a good example of how to do an open ending. Open endings are pretty much just asking the audience "how do you think it ended?" so, really, an online poll just makes it official that that's what they were doing. That doesn't make it a justified ending to me, it just makes it officially declaring that that was the purpose. Maybe it's the Law and Order formula that made me hate it so much. So often the person who is finally put up on trial in the show, we know unequivocally whether they were guilty or innocent. This episode, while, yeah, forced a bit, was probably one of the few episodes that actually didn't have "beyond a reasonable doubt" for the defendants. But they couldn't actually finish it off. You don't need to agree with the verdict they get, but cutting out right before it is just cheap to me. It's like they had an episode that they couldn't tell you who was lying and who wasn't, so they were afraid of having an actual verdict. But yeah, I just think it's one of the worst open endings done. One big reason is that open endings either set up for a future installment (which this one doesn't) or they, like the twist ending, make you look back on the preceding story differently, which this doesn't. They just didn't say "guilty" or "not guilty," which is just not ending it. |
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