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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 21, 2011 11:34:52 GMT -5
All I'll say is that I have been to one of the JCW shows, and honestly, I felt that it was fairly good. I mean, I wasn't blown away or anything, but the wrestling had something that I feel is sorely missing from most mainstream wrestling: characters and gimmicks. It's definitely not for everyone, but I did appreciate that aspect of the ICP or ICP culture. I can't say much about their music, as I have not heard much or am not familiar with it. I love hip hop, but most of what I like is from artists who debuted before 2000. I have no hate for them, so I guess you could say I am "ICP neutral"
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Post by ani on Jan 21, 2011 12:15:44 GMT -5
I still like the Oddities theme song despite not caring for them.
Also, as much as "magnets, how do they work?" was funny at first, it's been old to me for a LONG time now.
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Post by biafra on Jan 21, 2011 12:37:13 GMT -5
I don't like them but I dislike the people who go out of the way to bash them and their fans way more. Especially the folks who lump them all together and do not realize that more than likely there are Juggalos who do not embody the stupid stereotypes. I saw a picture of a a couple of Juggalos who were burying their deceased infant and some of the comments from the haters were far more classless then anything ICP can ever be accused of. Not to mention every time anyone brings up the haters make the same lame, old ass jokes about magnets.
So..to me it's ICP = not my thing.
The people who bash them = usually arrogant assholes no better than the worst of what they claim to despise.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jan 21, 2011 13:55:07 GMT -5
I don't like them but I dislike the people who go out of the way to bash them and their fans way more. Especially the folks who lump them all together and do not realize that more than likely there are Juggalos who do not embody the stupid stereotypes. I saw a picture of a a couple of Juggalos who were burying their deceased infant and some of the comments from the haters were far more classless then anything ICP can ever be accused of. Not to mention every time anyone brings up the haters make the same lame, old ass jokes about magnets. So..to me it's ICP = not my thing. The people who bash them = usually arrogant assholes no better than the worst of what they claim to despise. You've summed up pretty much exactly how I feel about ICP and Juggalos. I just...don't care. I have friends who are fans, or even consider themselves Juggalos, and they're cool people. Who cares?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 13:55:14 GMT -5
What I've heard from them is very mediocre at best IMO, but I don't go out of my way to hate on them like a lot people do. The people that waste countless hours arguing how much ICP sucks are just as lame as the juggalos that argue how awesome they are. If you think they suck don't listen to it, if someone else thinks they're great that's their business.
I will say that most of the hate that ICP gets is due to their overzealous fans.
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Post by JRX on Jan 21, 2011 18:02:52 GMT -5
As rappers, they're mediocre at best. However, their fanbase here sucks. They act like a gang pretty much.
I will say this though, Great Milenko was an actually good CD.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jan 21, 2011 20:10:21 GMT -5
I'm not a Juggalo, but I like some of their music.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 21, 2011 22:52:01 GMT -5
I remember I tried to get into them back in 2000 when they came out with their Bizaar/Bizarre albums. It didn't seem like my kind of style, but I am open to listening to some other stuff from them. I am a rap fan, open to different forms, actually, but I am not sure if they are some guys who I would actually consider myself to be a fan of. I don't have a problem with them, but I am not into them either. I would listen to mainly the Joker's Card albums, but other stuff, I don't know. Though some people I know who listen to them are mostly into metal and such. I find it funny how some people like that bash rap yet listen to ICP or Twiztid.
By the way, the only album I have ever owned of theirs was Bizarre and I sold that album years ago.
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Post by Bake Or Die on Jan 22, 2011 3:57:29 GMT -5
I'm not into rap music so that automatically turns me off to their music but it's their fans that really rub me the wrong way. Maybe it's not the case with all of them but literally every ICP fan I've ever come across are obsessed with 4 things. Getting high,getting drunk,Faygo soda & ICP. They've acted towards me like it's some kind of sin that I didn't share their love of the band.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 4:22:08 GMT -5
It really has nothing to do with them, but those damn juggalos.
My brother and his friend are juggalos and they annoy me to the nth degree.
It doesn't help that the Juggalos have ruined Faygo for me.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 22, 2011 5:02:29 GMT -5
As rappers, they're neither all that good or all that bad. On the band itself, I'm pretty much neutral. Then, there's the fans. For the record, I speak strictly from my own experience here. I've NEVER met an ICP fan that wasn't a conceited douchebag convinced that the ICP was God's gift to music, and that listening to anything else is just a waste of time. Oh, and also, expressing dislike or even disinterest in the band gets you labeled a "hater" or "fuggin'(typing how they phonetically say it here) homo". The more moderate fans are fine. The ones that treat ICP and their music like a god damn religion(and they ARE out there, I know one very well) are the asshats who annoy me.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 22, 2011 11:05:35 GMT -5
I've NEVER met an ICP fan that wasn't a conceited douchebag convinced that the ICP was God's gift to music, and that listening to anything else is just a waste of time. Even me? Look ya'll...ICP is my favorite band in the world, BUT...I hate most of their fanbase. I'll probably never go to another concert of theirs. I don't smoke or do drugs like most "juggalos". I like a wide variety of music, from Ozzy to KISS (Both hated by ICP) to James Brown to Elvis....ICP is just my favorite. I think they are extremely underrated musicians who are mainly hated because of their fans, and that's sad, but, they kind of brought it on themselves by pandering to that mindset.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 22, 2011 11:36:31 GMT -5
As a Non-Fan....
I can honestly say I never got into ICP, and furthermore, the hardcore fans Juggalos/Juggalettes of ICP turned me off of thier music.
But then again, the hardcore fans of EVERYTHING piss me off, from Obsessive Otaku, Trekkies/Trekkers (The ones that piss me off are the ones that actually ARGUE which is proper), and basically anyone that has let obsessive fandom take the place of an actual personality.
As far as thier MUSIC.....I've never been personally offended by any of it, I kinda like thier more light-hearted tracks, but never got into thier deeper cuts.
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Post by Grendel on Jan 22, 2011 12:17:54 GMT -5
I've NEVER met an ICP fan that wasn't a conceited douchebag convinced that the ICP was God's gift to music, and that listening to anything else is just a waste of time. Even me? Look ya'll...ICP is my favorite band in the world, BUT...I hate most of their fanbase. I'll probably never go to another concert of theirs. I don't smoke or do drugs like most "juggalos". I like a wide variety of music, from Ozzy to KISS (Both hated by ICP) to James Brown to Elvis....ICP is just my favorite. I think they are extremely underrated musicians who are mainly hated because of their fans, and that's sad, but, they kind of brought it on themselves by pandering to that mindset. Gee, the one ICP show I went to was a fun time. Except for one or two douchebags in the crowd, most of the people were just kids having a good time. I like ICP, but I haven't really listened to anything after Hell's Pit.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 22, 2011 12:44:01 GMT -5
I've NEVER met an ICP fan that wasn't a conceited douchebag convinced that the ICP was God's gift to music, and that listening to anything else is just a waste of time. Even me? Look ya'll...ICP is my favorite band in the world, BUT...I hate most of their fanbase. I'll probably never go to another concert of theirs. I don't smoke or do drugs like most "juggalos". I like a wide variety of music, from Ozzy to KISS (Both hated by ICP) to James Brown to Elvis....ICP is just my favorite. I think they are extremely underrated musicians who are mainly hated because of their fans, and that's sad, but, they kind of brought it on themselves by pandering to that mindset. Well, I meant actually physically met, to be honest.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 22, 2011 13:24:04 GMT -5
I don't listen to them much, but I could name a couple of songs of theirs I like.
The Oddities theme will always be something I'm fond of. I actually don't mind their contributions to wrestling. With the way the indies can be, it's good to have a place that actually cuts decent checks to wrestlers, and doesn't bounce them.
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Post by S-Chrome on Jan 22, 2011 14:48:06 GMT -5
I've come to realize that bashing them the way I used to would make me no better than the idiots who constantly claim that rap music into of itself is not music, so I'll say, I don't think they're very talented and a good portion of their fans are blithering idiots.
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