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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Aug 9, 2010 21:48:42 GMT -5
I haven't picked my favorite yet, but it'll come soon into the season.
I just hope CBS doesn't obsess over the Russell Hantz/Shannon thing, and I hope Russell's not the "friend" that visits if Shannon makes it far enough.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Aug 9, 2010 23:12:13 GMT -5
For some reason, I like Yve. Can't really figure out why though. She just seems like someone that could go really far in the game. Don't ask me why. Also, Brenda seems like a schemer.
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Post by MGH on Aug 21, 2010 16:34:48 GMT -5
That Season 22 rumor seems to be confirmed, with more details.. {Spoiler}Unless something drastic shifted, Rob vs. Russell seems to be confirmed now. The twist being they'll each manage their tribes, and both be immune until the merge. Greeeeeeat
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Post by Shy Guy on Aug 21, 2010 16:37:42 GMT -5
{Spoiler}le sigh. i was really hoping for second chances,
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Post by MGH on Aug 21, 2010 16:43:04 GMT -5
On Season 22... {Spoiler}Am I the only one who just thinks this is Survivor's way to finally make sure Russell wins that money? I mean, he can't on his own. The guy has the social game of an infected oozing wart. At this point he'd be voted out as quickly as possible since people know him. Instead, conveniently, now he's set in a position where for the first couple of weeks, he's untouchable. I'm not sure if this would be jumping the shark so much as jet packing over it in the clouds.
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Post by livingdeaddoll on Aug 22, 2010 20:08:35 GMT -5
I can't wait..I love Jeff Probst.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2010 15:06:03 GMT -5
This is probably the weakest idea for a Survivor season I've ever seen. The old people are going to be murdered...and Jimmy Johnson is probably going to be the first eliminated contestant.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 27, 2010 15:10:28 GMT -5
On Season 22... {Spoiler}Am I the only one who just thinks this is Survivor's way to finally make sure Russell wins that money? I mean, he can't on his own. The guy has the social game of an infected oozing wart. At this point he'd be voted out as quickly as possible since people know him. Instead, conveniently, now he's set in a position where for the first couple of weeks, he's untouchable. I'm not sure if this would be jumping the shark so much as jet packing over it in the clouds. Nah odds are Rob and Russ, unless they make HUGE in Roads, will be voted off soon after the merger. Espically if its a huge lopside. If one tribe goes in weakend, then the other leader will be the first to go.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 11, 2010 17:47:05 GMT -5
probst's cast assesment. should be an interesting season.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 11, 2010 21:48:40 GMT -5
Probst being a little more positive than usual.
Still rooting for Dan for now.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 13, 2010 8:18:09 GMT -5
probst's cast assesment. should be an interesting season. Thank you. I've added that to Page 1's, cast info post. And my own first impressions. in color next to Toates assessment: {Spoiler}Alina - Cute, but meh and boring personality wise at this point I had the same thoughts at first glance, but after some interviews, and promos for the show featuring her, I'd say she is more charismatic and charming than originally thought as a white bread boring female. I think she'll make it as far as the jury.
Ben - ... I struggle not to break the wishing harm rule. I really do. I'm going to hate this guy so so so much I can tell already. He's cocky, his answer to survivor he's similar to is "SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: The winners... They win! ". Everything is wrong so wrong. Benry I feel is more than he appears. I think this guy will be the youth equivalent to Marty, in that he'll be playing the game very hard. I see him being the male strategic leader for the young tribe. Problem is he'll be seeing too much La Flor Yellow, and being too biased with the young. I see him making merge as well.
Brenda - Hot, but nothing special otherwise. Honestly, I am disagreeing with you completely, and agreeing with the poster who says Brenda is a schemer. I sense a Parvati vibe from her. Think Micronesia Fans vs Favorites, with pro-women dominance. The problem is that, ever since then, the males have been very wary of women alliances, and any women, who try to get close with men. I see her making at least the jury.
Chase - lol. I love unique professions because it proves they're real people rather then wanabe model/actors. He's got potential. Could be just JT 2.0. or could be a unique character you never know but southerns have been doing well on this show lately. I like that he acknowledges that anyone can win some young guys underestimate the older set. Of all the young dudes, he is the most mellow and humble one. Alot of the rest seem to be cocky, high energy, or douches. Chase is the everyman, except one who happens to be built as the youth tribe's alpha male. I don't see him being too strategic, but I see him being very loyal. I get the feeling everyone on the show will like him, so he'll be a threat in that sense, but has many factor that could get him to the end and win. Friends, allies, athletic ability, likability, camp work/usefulness. I'd bet it would be difficult for his allies to betray him even at the final 4/3. I see him making it very far into the game. Maybe even in the Final 3.
Dan Lembowange - Pre show favorite. Totally hilarious unique character likely star of the season. I hope he runs s*** on the old people tribe. I really like this guy too. This Italian/New Yorker/Mafia Gangster/Mobster looking type, seems to be a great unique character for the show. This guy actually looks very hard to predict. I see him having some conflicts with people due to the Italian Mobster stereotype I have with him. I'll go out on a limb and say he'll make it to the merge, based on allies, and bigger fish to fry... cause he's short.
Holly - I like her. Good general vibe. I just get a good feeling no real reasons. She's a very good speaker which is good. I think she'll be an interesting character. Like Cirie, she looks like the type that will have to work hard to get used to the survivor enviroment, due to her seemingly high maintenance appearance, but looks sharp enough to play strategically well. Again I see her making it top 7 at least, and on the jury.
Jane - Sandy 2.0? I get that feeling, she'll be a great premerge character but likely wont make it to the merge. If she does I could see her being the one to get Jan'd at F3 [unless this season is a F3...] I'll say she is more of the Jan/Tina type. I think she'll go far as being a non-threat, likable mother figure, and loyal. But because of that, she'll be voted off as a threat for jury votes near the final.
Jill - Oh god. "SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Tom Westman and Colby Donaldson because they are physically dominating and played with intelligence. " *facepalm*. Wow, yeah, you really look like a Tom or Colby. It's not even that you're female hun. If like... Jolanda from Palau said she'd be a Colby I'd be like RIGHT ON. She recognizes Jimmy Johnston though. She seems like she could go either way. I like her, but she sounds like Shambo. At first I though she would make it far, cause she seems a bit more smarter with survival type situations, and more athletic then the other older females. But again, that Shambo vibe, tells me she could be a bit of an outcast. I see her as a great character, but pre-merge, somewhere near the merge, as she'll be useful for challenges, and camp life.
Jimmy J - Who knows something about his coaching career? Well I like him a lot from his video. Should be cool to see him play the game and see how well he can do as a celebrity. I lol at him calling Tom Westman trustworthy though. Jimmy might end up in the majority alliance on the old folks, but will be cut in the late game unless someone thinks he's a goat because he's a celeb. I really don't think Jimmy is gonna last long. Hyped contestants, especially more notable ones, who were known before survivor, tend to have a pattern of being eliminated early. Plus his age of being the oldest, might effect votes, if he can be good for team challenges. Celeb/idol status can only keep one in for so long. Early Pre-Merge.
Jimmy T - I don't like that he thinks he's Rupert, but I like him. First of all, gotta root for my home state guy. I don't like that he's not a fan but I'm glad he'll admit it. America's choice is interesting. Hopefully they got it right. He should be cool we'll see. The guy reminds me of Coach a little bit. I see him hyping his abilities often, but falling flat alot. Gonna be a Great character, for sure, with how he won the Casting Call, but I don't know if that will translate well with living with an over-bearing personality like his. I see him Pre-Merge.
Judson - Hate potential is high. Just the type I tend to loathe in general. Dumb suffer guy who, like all of that type, wants to pretend he might be something more but will likely turn out not to be. Calling yourself sexy is a douche move too. Also ".Plus, camping on a tropical island with a bunch of cute girls sounds like the best vacation ever"... you gotta be kidding me. Tries waaaay too hard to be funny. But underneath that idiotic exterior, I think he looks to be a pretty likable and cool guy. He is very high energy after all, and his personality should keep morale high at the camp. He is VERY lucky with the gimmick season putting him into the younger tribe, cause I think the youth will appreciate his sort of jokster personality, and by the promos play along. If it was a regular tribe with some older people, older peiople might not be as nice and accepting, and might translate him as being cocky.
I see him lasting quite long based on luck, and early allies. I also think he has the ability to make friends easily with some older folks at the merge, should he get there. Hmm, I think he'll make the merge at least.
Kelly B Goddessa <333333333 - "There's definitely some Russells in the group." Yes, sniff them out and slay them. I love her. Her obscure choice in who she's similar to. Her attitude, her general vibe. I'd love to see her win. I LOVE her, best personality of them all, and a true survivor fan, from all accounts of her survivor knowledge. Not sure how far she'll go. I'll guess somewhere from 15-5 place for her.
Kelly S - Hmmm... She could go a number of ways. Girls like her can either be the weak follower who doesn't do anything. Or a Samoa Natalie who people THINK is a weak follower but turns out to be underestimated. Or a Parvati who is surprisingly aggressive. If she's the first I will hate her. She's pretty obviously, but if she has more than that... we will see. But yeah, homecoming queen, "I know how to play the "social popularity"game. ". We'll see how that translates. I think she'll be kind of a high maintenance type of blonde girl, dispite what she says. Look at her she even admitted to being the type who wants to be popular/home-coming queen. Not sure if she can adjust to the survivor enviroment. Again, like Jud she's lucky to be on the youth tribe, with similar aged women who she will have a much easier time befriending. Maybe even some guys, or she'll try at least. Umm, I'm gonna say merge.
Marty - Reminds me of my ex-stepdad who I loathe. I imagine him doing well though which will suck. I really don't like him least favorite of the older people for me. He thinks he's a cross between Boston Rob and Russell. He says he will play the game hard. We'll see. Marty looks like a player. The guy seems to be cold as ice. I get reminded of Thailand's winner a bit. He looks very aggressive, strategic and smart. He should be for being a yahoo Corporate Executive. Cutthroat seems to be the perfect word to describe my first impression of him. Cunning, and Focused, should get him to the Merge at least.
"Sash" - You sir are no Tyson. You are not witty you're just a douchebag. "I haven't even talked to them and I have all the women wrapped around my finger". Really dude? Please fail epicly. Million bucks being secondary to the title is a nice touch though I guess. JEEZE I dislike this guy. What a cocky SOB. He seems like a very slimy type of player, who will lie, and lie often, to get further in the game. Think Fairplay, or Rob Cesterino, heck even R. Hantz, except less likable. Folks we have the wanna-be-villain of the season. I see him betraying folks, and using others, if he can get his groove going. If people can see right through him, based on past season then he'll be gone, and gone quickly, after failing epically. I see it going in one of two ways for him gone pre-merge, or final 3. But he won't win.
Na Onka - I LOVE HER. Her interview is amazing. AMAZING. It's not even fair how amazing her interview is. Love love love love love love love. Looks like a very entertaining character. However Young Black women, have a reputation of being voted out early. Thanks to being on the young tribe, she might last quite a while. So pre-merge to jury for her.
Shannon - Hantz's friend eh... I'm reserving judgment here. His attitude could either be very annoying or kind of refreshing. He seems like he's going to have a hard time keeping his mouth shut, which should provide some entertainment. He doesn't seem similar to Hantz, but yay, that's a good thing! He seems less strategic, and more survival and challenge oriented, rather than playing the social and strategic aspect of the game. Basically he's gonna be the Alpha Male Type. He does seem quite focused though, but from interviews, his blunt, and honest mouth, might hurt him. Like Probst said, Gone right before the Merge.
Tyrone - First of all next person who mentions Tom Westman's integrity gets a slap across the face. That's not what Tom was about. People place that label on him out of nowhere. But Tyrone does seem cool. I also... am calling him as my winner VERY tentatively. Seems like a Likable guy. Graah he could go anywhere, but my process of elimination from what I ranked earlier, I guess I'll put him at pre-merge and being eliminated in a way much like Shannon. Cause he's the Elder's Alpha Male threat.
Wendy - Wow... so many friggen nurses. Anyway, she's going premerge but she will be entertaining doing it. Loved her interview actually. Very much. I love this old tribe. I love this lady. Very funny and seems like a great character. One of my pre-show favs. She doesn seema bit weird though. I'm gonna guess pre-merge as well, cause of her odd-ball tendancies, like most other oddball older woman characters who are gone pre-merge.
Yve - She chose Danni and Bob as who she's like. Two winners, I like that attitude. And two more obscure winners that your average person wouldn't remember so she's a fan. She could be awesome, or she could be awful. I can't tell. I get SORTA Samoa Laura vibes and I hated Laura. But she may... sorta... seem... nicer? She's my other winner pick. Wow. I concur with the Laura Vibes. I see her playing very similarly too. Too bad she was on the older tribe, because I believe she would have benefit from being the matriach figure to younger players. Like Laura I see her forming a strong alliance, with a few people, if there's a tribe shuffle, she'll benefit from having young people with her. If not well, unluck for her, the season's gimmick worked against her. Being the youngest of the Elder tribe, might mean she'll be gone early. Perhaps pre-merge. But I do like her.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 13, 2010 9:32:11 GMT -5
Oh wow. I totally disagree with a lot of what I said even now. Especially on Brenda who's kinda dorky EW interview totally had her growing on me.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 13, 2010 9:48:11 GMT -5
Couple comments after reading all the way through that.
Sash isn't worthy to lick the jockstraps of any of the men you compared him too. I see the Marty/Thailand's Brian comparison very much. About having a switch that will benefit Yve. There HAS to be a switch this season. We haven' had an old fashion tribal switch since Gabon! Tocatins, Samoa, and Heroes v Villians kept the tribes the same until the merge.
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Post by Muskrat on Sept 13, 2010 10:04:22 GMT -5
I haven't watched Survivor in years, and the only reason I'm tuning in is cause of Jimmy Johnson. He amuses me
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 13, 2010 10:08:01 GMT -5
Couple comments after reading all the way through that. Sash isn't worthy to lick the jockstraps of any of the men you compared him too. I see the Marty/Thailand's Brian comparison very much. About having a switch that will benefit Yve. There HAS to be a switch this season. We haven' had an old fashion tribal switch since Gabon! Tocatins, Samoa, and Heroes v Villians kept the tribes the same until the merge. That's why I said a less likable version of them and a wannabe villain. Perhaps I should of phrased it this way: Think ....... Except even less likable then the most hated players you hate.
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Post by King Boo on Sept 13, 2010 12:55:13 GMT -5
This is probably the weakest idea for a Survivor season I've ever seen. The old people are going to be murdered...and Jimmy Johnson is probably going to be the first eliminated contestant. I don't agree with this at all. I know Panama was the first attempt at old vs. young, though the division of teams was also based on gender in that instance, but I remember in Thailand, Jake chose basically all of the younger people for his team while Jan chose all of the older people. Despite an early challenge win streak (both reward and immunity), when the merge occurred, it wasn't Sook Jai, the younger team, that had the numbers, it was Chuay Gahn, the older tribe. The final four wound up being all from Chuay Gahn and thus, obviously, the winner was from the older tribe as well. Outside the Ted-Ghandia incident, Chuay Gahn had better work ethic and, more importantly, better team unity and they were the ones who wound up going the furthest. Younger people in Survivor, generally speaking, tend not to focus on camp life and also tend to ostracize people they don't like (when ages are mixed, this usually winds up being an older person, which is incredibly short-sighted) which doesn't help a team in the long run. Sure, the younger contestants might have a spurt of victories but chances are, they're going to get overly confident and cocky and underestimate the older people - where not only can age be deceiving, but there's also the factor of probably having been through more in life and thus are probably thicker skinned and tougher mentally and emotionally - which is a huge flaw. In the end, that's the kind of thing that bites the younger people square in the ass.
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Post by MGH on Sept 13, 2010 13:06:18 GMT -5
This is probably the weakest idea for a Survivor season I've ever seen. The old people are going to be murdered...and Jimmy Johnson is probably going to be the first eliminated contestant. I don't agree with this at all. I know Panama was the first attempt at old vs. young, though the division of teams was also based on gender in that instance, but I remember in Thailand, Jake chose basically all of the younger people for his team while Jan chose all of the older people. Despite an early challenge win streak (both reward and immunity), when the merge occurred, it wasn't Sook Jai, the younger team, that had the numbers, it was Chuay Gahn, the older tribe. The final four wound up being all from Chuay Gahn and thus, obviously, the winner was from the older tribe as well. Outside the Ted-Ghandia incident, Chuay Gahn had better work ethic and, more importantly, better team unity and they were the ones who wound up going the furthest. Younger people in Survivor, generally speaking, tend not to focus on camp life and also tend to ostracize people they don't like (when ages are mixed, this usually winds up being an older person, which is incredibly short-sighted) which doesn't help a team in the long run. Sure, the younger contestants might have a spurt of victories but chances are, they're going to get overly confident and cocky and underestimate the older people - where not only can age be deceiving, but there's also the factor of probably having been through more in life and thus are probably thicker skinned and tougher mentally and emotionally - which is a huge flaw. In the end, that's the kind of thing that bites the younger people square in the ass. Totally agreed. I wouldn't be shocked for the older tribe to be even or possibly hold an advantage at the merger. We have much more evidence to the contrary over the years that disputes the old people being at some major disadvantage. It isn't just an age divide where that happens either. It's a gender thing too. At least two times in Survivor history we've had an embarrassingly cocky group of guys go up against the women, and they either got beat, or the ladies held their own to make the game interesting. In Amazon a woman won the game, and in Vanuatu Chris was just too good to be over come, but he was sitting in the final 7 as the only man left. The women DOMINATED that season. I don't know that it's age or gender (though I totally agree with your point that the older generation hold so many advantages over the young people as far as strategy and camp life go) thing so much as an attitude one. If you're cocky, Survivor will bring you down a peg. You're never as good as you think you are. I fully expect the older tribe to play a great game pre-merge. After that, who knows.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 13, 2010 17:16:14 GMT -5
I haven't watched Survivor in years, and the only reason I'm tuning in is cause of Jimmy Johnson. He amuses me I'm actually pleased about him bringing in a new viewer. Hopefully you are entertaining enough to stick around after [assuming] he's voted out. Couple comments after reading all the way through that. Sash isn't worthy to lick the jockstraps of any of the men you compared him too. I see the Marty/Thailand's Brian comparison very much. About having a switch that will benefit Yve. There HAS to be a switch this season. We haven' had an old fashion tribal switch since Gabon! Tocatins, Samoa, and Heroes v Villians kept the tribes the same until the merge. That's why I said a less likable version of them and a wannabe villain. Perhaps I should of phrased it this way: Think ....... Except even less likable then the most hated players you hate. Well I actually liked Cesternino and Fairplay is a legend. But I see what you mean. My evidence for Old having a better advantage against you then you'd think is Palau. Koror, who won EVERY immunity challenge, had I believe only one or two members under 30, while Ulong who lost them all had only one or two over thirty and they voted one of them out at the first tribal council. On paper Ulong seemed stronger, but they got dominated. Winning only two challenges [and they were for reward] in the whole premerge and having only one of their members in the merge. That and I also imagine they'll make the challenges slightly less physical this season.
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Sept 13, 2010 17:18:38 GMT -5
I haven't watched Survivor in years, and the only reason I'm tuning in is cause of Jimmy Johnson. He amuses me I'd be willing to bet that's a lot of the reason why CBS brought him on as a contestant. That and he'll probably promote it on FOX during the NFL pregame shows, which is almost unheard of.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 13, 2010 17:22:54 GMT -5
That'd be interesting considering there was a story about Fox trying to "kill" Survivor about two years ago.
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