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Post by Sharpy Snow on Dec 27, 2010 20:00:00 GMT -5
Curt Hawkins, is that you? I still stand by my ironic comment. Part of me thinks if he was over as hell, had the kids wearing his merch and never lost a match then people wouldn't like him half as much. Just another guy people can get behind because WWE ain't pushing him. Rule 1 of the IWC: The more positive reaction a wrestler has, the quicker someone will say "If it was Cena/Rey doing it, you would hate it" Rule 2 of the IWC: The more negative reaction a wrestler has, the quicker someone will say "If it was Punk/Bryan doing it, he would be a martyr."
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Post by christophe on Dec 27, 2010 20:10:30 GMT -5
You say it was though I'm a newbie to the IWC.
Still all true though.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 27, 2010 20:11:17 GMT -5
The Crap had to find someone else mediocre to fawn over when Stevie Richards got fired....and that man is Zack Ryder.
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Dec 27, 2010 20:12:33 GMT -5
Ryder should be given the push that Ted Dibiase Jr. refuses to take advantage of (and also Maryse, just for the helluvit).
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Post by Dub H on Dec 27, 2010 20:13:01 GMT -5
You say it was though I'm a newbie to the IWC. Still all true though. Hey,if people start going to stadium with Woo Woo Woo headbands it would be awesome. is there even a Wooo Woo Woo headband for sale?
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Post by Raul on Dec 27, 2010 20:13:56 GMT -5
A Ryder / Bryan match would be amazing. Ryder stole the show most every week on ECW during its dying days. He was getting pushed towards the f***ing end too, THEN HE WENT TO WWE SUPERSTARS HELL
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Post by Dub H on Dec 27, 2010 20:15:33 GMT -5
A Ryder / Bryan match would be amazing. Ryder stole the show most every week on ECW during its dying days. He was getting pushed towards the f***ing end too, THEN HE WENT TO WWE SUPERSTARS HELL Yeh,he became she Heart and Soul Superhero of ECW now he is Heart and Soul superhero of superstars....
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Post by Yami Daimao on Dec 27, 2010 20:23:48 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight....his theme is NOT awesome. You're right; it's Zacktastic.
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Post by Greer on Dec 27, 2010 20:27:47 GMT -5
The Crap had to find someone else mediocre to fawn over when Stevie Richards got fired....and that man is Zack Ryder. I don't see what is so mediocre. The fact that he actually has a character and a gimmick or the fact he can work in the ring?
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 27, 2010 20:30:56 GMT -5
The Crap had to find someone else mediocre to fawn over when Stevie Richards got fired....and that man is Zack Ryder. I don't see what is so mediocre. The fact that he actually has a character and a gimmick or the fact he can work in the ring? His ring work is average at best. Even when he was having a good run on ECW, I never thought "Wow, what a match!" after watching him...hell, I've said that watching Hawkins vs. Baretta from Superstars. And his character is his gimmick...which is what exactly? Guy who jobs on RAW and has a lame catch phrase that he's been trying to get over for more than a year now? AND a "The One" Billy Gunn sounding theme too boot!
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 27, 2010 20:31:14 GMT -5
I love how some people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we might actually legitimately like the guy.
I've been a huge fan of both Hawkins and Ryder since they were the Major Brothers. The fact that Zack turned into what he turned into just adds to it and makes me love him more.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 27, 2010 20:32:41 GMT -5
I love how some people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we might actually legitimately like the guy. I've been a huge fan of both Hawkins and Ryder since they were the Major Brothers. The fact that Zack turned into what he turned into just adds to it and makes me love him more. And apparently some of you can't wrap your heads around the fact that people don't see what's so great about him? It's a two way street.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 27, 2010 20:33:15 GMT -5
I love how some people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we might actually legitimately like the guy. I've been a huge fan of both Hawkins and Ryder since they were the Major Brothers. The fact that Zack turned into what he turned into just adds to it and makes me love him more. I admit i wasnt such a fan of Major Brother,but i became a fan of the Edgehead,till this day i'm still a Hawkins fans,but when Ryder started the Woo Woo Woo gimmick on the online show. That day,i saw it ,the talent on that man.And then new ryder debuted on ECW,and it was glorious.He made me actually enjoy Rosa Mendes And we see that you guys dont see it! But you keep coming and asking what so great,so we awser,so i cant see what you are talking about its not like we are creating "You should be a Ryder fan" thread
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 27, 2010 20:38:06 GMT -5
I love how some people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we might actually legitimately like the guy. I've been a huge fan of both Hawkins and Ryder since they were the Major Brothers. The fact that Zack turned into what he turned into just adds to it and makes me love him more. And apparently some of you can't wrap your heads around the fact that people don't see what's so great about him? It's a two way street. Not a SINGLE person in this thread has said that the people who don't like Ryder don't legitimately like him. However, you and other members are saying that we only like him to be ironic, or because we need to latch onto an undercarder that WWE doesn't push. Nobody is saying that there's a problem with not liking him. We all have our opinions. You, however, come into every thread about the man, or the man's THEME SONG even, to say that we don't REALLY like him, we're just jumping onto the bandwagon. Look dude, we get it by now. You don't like the guy. That's well within your right, and you're within your rights to talk about how much you dislike him. But the extent to which you take it, when you start reaching the level of accusing people who actually do like him of only pretending, when you feel the need to enter every thread about him and act like he's the worst wrestler ever and deserves to be fired, it goes too far and starts looking like you're just trying to piss people off.
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Post by Greer on Dec 27, 2010 20:43:29 GMT -5
I don't see what is so mediocre. The fact that he actually has a character and a gimmick or the fact he can work in the ring? His ring work is average at best. Even when he was having a good run on ECW, I never thought "Wow, what a match!" after watching him...hell, I've said that watching Hawkins vs. Baretta from Superstars. And his character is his gimmick...which is what exactly? Guy who jobs on RAW and has a lame catch phrase that he's been trying to get over for more than a year now? AND a "The One" Billy Gunn sounding theme too boot! As opposed to the good catchphrases in the WWE? It's supposed to be a cheesy catchphrase. He is a douchebag heel. His gimmick is crystal clear. A Long Island ladies man with a severe metro sexual complex. Is it deep? No. But it's more than Kofi, Drew, Edge and most of the mid card and main event scene have. I have no problem with you not liking him. I just disagree with your reasons.
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Post by christophe on Dec 27, 2010 20:54:54 GMT -5
That's his gimmick? Definitely not crystal clear to me. Probably something to do with me not being from America. World Wrestling Entertainment and all that.
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Post by Paco on Dec 27, 2010 21:36:14 GMT -5
I think Stevie Richards is pretty damn good. Great even... So is Zack Ryder.
Ryder's matches with Christian on ECW were what put him on my radar. No, they were not Christian carry-jobs.
Best theme today too! Yeah, I said it. Suck on that.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 27, 2010 21:40:30 GMT -5
And apparently some of you can't wrap your heads around the fact that people don't see what's so great about him? It's a two way street. Not a SINGLE person in this thread has said that the people who don't like Ryder don't legitimately like him. However, you and other members are saying that we only like him to be ironic, or because we need to latch onto an undercarder that WWE doesn't push. Nobody is saying that there's a problem with not liking him. We all have our opinions. You, however, come into every thread about the man, or the man's THEME SONG even, to say that we don't REALLY like him, we're just jumping onto the bandwagon. Look dude, we get it by now. You don't like the guy. That's well within your right, and you're within your rights to talk about how much you dislike him. But the extent to which you take it, when you start reaching the level of accusing people who actually do like him of only pretending, when you feel the need to enter every thread about him and act like he's the worst wrestler ever and deserves to be fired, it goes too far and starts looking like you're just trying to piss people off. I'm pretty sure I never called anyone out personally, just that I find it hard to see what's so great about the dude that he has so many fans here on The Crap. But you apparently feel personally attacked by my lack of liking of Zack Ryder, so I'll just not bother.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 27, 2010 21:43:53 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight....his theme is NOT awesome. Of course. It is however tremendous.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 27, 2010 21:50:28 GMT -5
Not a SINGLE person in this thread has said that the people who don't like Ryder don't legitimately like him. However, you and other members are saying that we only like him to be ironic, or because we need to latch onto an undercarder that WWE doesn't push. Nobody is saying that there's a problem with not liking him. We all have our opinions. You, however, come into every thread about the man, or the man's THEME SONG even, to say that we don't REALLY like him, we're just jumping onto the bandwagon. Look dude, we get it by now. You don't like the guy. That's well within your right, and you're within your rights to talk about how much you dislike him. But the extent to which you take it, when you start reaching the level of accusing people who actually do like him of only pretending, when you feel the need to enter every thread about him and act like he's the worst wrestler ever and deserves to be fired, it goes too far and starts looking like you're just trying to piss people off. I'm pretty sure I never called anyone out personally, just that I find it hard to see what's so great about the dude that he has so many fans here on The Crap. But you apparently feel personally attacked by my lack of liking of Zack Ryder, so I'll just not bother. Personally attacked, no. I feel the same way about any user who has a hatred for a wrestler that goes beyond reasonable, and gets into "if there's a thread about that particular wrestler you KNOW that Users X and Y are going to go into the thread to say how much he sucks" territory. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not liking Zack Ryder. It's the way you go about expressing that dislike that rubs some people the wrong way and in some ways feels like you're just trying to upset people.
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