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Post by CrazySting on Dec 22, 2010 18:22:37 GMT -5
Ffrom the observer
Matt Hardy will get a big reaction coming in like all former WWE stars get, and how effective he’ll be likely depend on how much he wants to prove (Kurt Angle) vs. how much he feels he’s a star and can rest on his laurels (Booker T). But there is definitely skepticism toward him given his behavior, although management seems to have turned a blind eye to pretty much everything in that regard across the board.
And Dave also notes Taylor has been officially released from TNA.
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Post by The Tank on Dec 22, 2010 18:24:51 GMT -5
Ffrom the observer Matt Hardy will get a big reaction coming in like all former WWE stars get, and how effective he’ll be likely depend on how much he wants to prove (Kurt Angle) vs. how much he feels he’s a star and can rest on his laurels (Booker T). But there is definitely skepticism toward him given his behavior, although management seems to have turned a blind eye to pretty much everything in that regard across the board. Shock and/or awe! So is Matt going to feud with Jeff for the World Title or team with him to help him keep it? ...oh, who am I kidding, this is TNA. They'll do both in the first month Matt's there.
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Post by itssoeasy23 on Dec 22, 2010 18:28:30 GMT -5
No, just no TNA.
It's a waste of money.
What's next Carlito, MVP, and Shad?
Why do'nt you call it WCW and admit you can't run a company Bishoff?
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 22, 2010 18:30:30 GMT -5
Releasing Taylor may have been a bad pr move.
She's going to do interviews now. And what will she get asked about? Low pay.
Although TNA don't seem to care about their image so maybe it doesn't matter.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Dec 22, 2010 18:35:57 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see Matt being all that successful in TNA. He seems to be a person who want to call his own shots, so unless they are willing to give him a booking position I see him falling into the same pattern he was in when he worked in WWE.
Taylor isn't all that big of a loss, IMHO. She was a decent wrestler, but she was never over to the extent that they wanted her to be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2010 18:49:38 GMT -5
Out with the new, in with the old.
Wait, I'm doing that wrong...
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Post by pacino on Dec 22, 2010 18:59:15 GMT -5
i never cared about matt hardy, won't start now. this just takes potential screen/ring time away from guys i like
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Post by Celgress on Dec 22, 2010 19:01:15 GMT -5
Will hiring Matt Hardy be a smart move by TNA? I guess we shall see......
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 22, 2010 19:01:32 GMT -5
Taylor Wilde or Terry Taylor?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2010 19:03:52 GMT -5
I liked the Hardy's in the late 90s and early 00s, I like Jeff alright most of the time, but have never cared for Matt as a singles wrestler, he seems to have an inflated idea of what his role in wrestling should be.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 22, 2010 19:04:12 GMT -5
Releasing Taylor may have been a bad pr move. She's going to do interviews now. And what will she get asked about? Low pay. Although TNA don't seem to care about their image so maybe it doesn't matter. Most other released knockouts don't. I don't see why Wilde would be so different.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 22, 2010 19:07:10 GMT -5
Releasing Taylor may have been a bad pr move. She's going to do interviews now. And what will she get asked about? Low pay. Although TNA don't seem to care about their image so maybe it doesn't matter. Most other released knockouts don't. I don't see why Wilde would be so different. Well Kong and Shelly did. Gail too, although she underplayed it. Traci didn't, but there's Kaz and she probably didn't want to bad mouth them. I think because Taylor's the one most associated with that stuff, she might get asked about it. But, yeah, if she thinks she has a shot at going back she might not.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 22, 2010 19:34:16 GMT -5
Most other released knockouts don't. I don't see why Wilde would be so different. Well Kong and Shelly did. Gail too, although she underplayed it. Traci didn't, but there's Kaz and she probably didn't want to bad mouth them. I think because Taylor's the one most associated with that stuff, she might get asked about it. But, yeah, if she thinks she has a shot at going back she might not. And them saying anything really did nothing to TNA's image.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 22, 2010 19:39:26 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. I think with all the talent mistreatment stories coming out, and the Terry chiarshot as well as the Jeff Hardy issues , their image is been tainted a bit. I don't think anyone, except the blindest of TNA marks, really believes anymore that TNA are the nice, moral people to WWE's bad guys.
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Post by comahan on Dec 22, 2010 19:44:44 GMT -5
When did people ever think that? :-P
And Ive never seen the chairshot mentioned at all aside from Meltzer talking about it and those thoughts being relayed to this board. The Hardy and payment issues, yes. The chairshot? Never seen it mentioned outside of you replaying Meltzers message, to be honest.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 22, 2010 20:05:27 GMT -5
Well Kong and Shelly did. Gail too, although she underplayed it. Traci didn't, but there's Kaz and she probably didn't want to bad mouth them. I think because Taylor's the one most associated with that stuff, she might get asked about it. But, yeah, if she thinks she has a shot at going back she might not. And them saying anything really did nothing to TNA's image. That's because, outside of the insular world of the wrestling industry, TNA doesn't really have an image to tarnish. They're barely a blip on anyone's radar. But, inside the wrestling business, yeah, it makes them look kind of bad.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 22, 2010 20:07:26 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. I think with all the talent mistreatment stories coming out, and the Terry chiarshot as well as the Jeff Hardy issues , their image is been tainted a bit. I don't think anyone, except the blindest of TNA marks, really believes anymore that TNA are the nice, moral people to WWE's bad guys. I think that outside of a vocal, very small minority, no one gives two craps about those things. It's just like Tiffany talking about WWE Divas having to sleep with people to have success. It doesn't really affect their image in any meaningful way. Do people think it's a shining beacon of morality? Of course not, I don't think anyone thought that. I think most people think it's a business, nothing more.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 22, 2010 20:09:53 GMT -5
And them saying anything really did nothing to TNA's image. That's because, outside of the insular world of the wrestling industry, TNA doesn't really have an image to tarnish. They're barely a blip on anyone's radar. But, inside the wrestling business, yeah, it makes them look kind of bad. In comparison, you have the indies, who pay no better as a whole and treat people no better, and WWE, who has a lot more restrictions and more strenuous schedule but better treatment. It makes them look like they're not WWE, which they're not, but I don't think their image has taken that big of a hit in the end.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 22, 2010 20:24:06 GMT -5
People s*** all over Matt Hardy a lot, but Matt's never been one to take it down a notch when it comes to wrestling. I'm sure Matt will give 100% when he's in the ring. I think the idea that he might be has been spawned by some of the videos he's made, as posting on youtube means you're a horrible person.
I've always been a supporter of Matt's, and I've always liked his wrestling. A new character, look, etc is what he needs. He tried that though, but people were like, oh my god, he's crazy, he's a weirdo, a drug addict and he's fat (I was going to use net speak, but think of it in net speak).
And, ok, rant time. Apparently he was taken off a show for issues he was having, then they banned somas. So, he may've been using somas that day, and wasn't himself. Because of that, he's a horrible person, he sucks, he's fat, and then he starts getting in shape, and now he's on steroids, and gah. Like, I do my share of TNA bashing (which I feel a lot is justified), and I'm not going to go on the "everybody is negative" train, but the s*** with Matt has been ridiculous. Of course, we don't know for certain if it was somas or whatever, which were likely prescribed to him because he didn't get the 30 day ban, but they ban it outright because they've been having issues with it, which is a good idea. Bah.
Now, going from defending someone to doing what a lot of people have been doing lately. Bashing TNA! Taylor Wilde is just another victim of the new regime. Who's next?
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Post by golding on Dec 22, 2010 20:40:47 GMT -5
No, just no TNA. It's a waste of money. What's next Carlito, MVP, and Shad? Why do'nt you call it WCW and admit you can't run a company Bishoff? Tired old WCW comparison that just plain doesn't fit. Did you know that WWE hired WCW castoffs and made them into stars? Almost like hiring wrestlers most known in a particular company isn't a bad thing...
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