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Post by hollywood on Dec 24, 2010 10:43:38 GMT -5
I don't think we should ignore all the similar accusations against the WWE though. That seems unfair. If we are going to treat negative reports as gospel truth, we should do the same for the reports about WWE's working conditions including allegations of sexual harassment, out and out rape and drug policies that aren't enforced as hard on main eventers. Let's not forget the allegations of racism against guys like Michael Hayes.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 24, 2010 10:45:09 GMT -5
I don't think we should ignore all the similar accusations against the WWE though. That seems unfair. If we are going to treat negative reports as gospel truth, we should do the same for the reports about WWE's working conditions including allegations of sexual harassment, out and out rape and drug policies that aren't enforced as hard on main eventers. Not saying I believe those rumors, just that if we are going to cite stories as proof we should count all stories. If a WWE employee went on twitter and went "LOL, look at TNA" I guarantee people would be doing that.
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 24, 2010 10:49:14 GMT -5
I don't think we should ignore all the similar accusations against the WWE though. That seems unfair. If we are going to treat negative reports as gospel truth, we should do the same for the reports about WWE's working conditions including allegations of sexual harassment, out and out rape and drug policies that aren't enforced as hard on main eventers. Not saying I believe those rumors, just that if we are going to cite stories as proof we should count all stories. If a WWE employee went on twitter and went "LOL, look at TNA" I guarantee people would be doing that. That would be unfair as well.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 24, 2010 10:51:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to call Arnie back on this thread...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2010 10:52:15 GMT -5
If a WWE employee went on twitter and went "LOL, look at TNA" I guarantee people would be doing that. That would be unfair as well. And tacky. Which is why TNA's PR people could stand an etiquette class. They're quite classless at times, even by wrestling standards. Is it so hard not to trash talk your competitors. Especially on something you're guilty of as well?
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Post by hollywood on Dec 24, 2010 10:53:40 GMT -5
That would be unfair as well. And tacky. Which is why TNA's PR people could stand an etiquette class. They're quite classless at times, even by wrestling standards. Is it so hard not to trash talk your competitors. Especially on something you're guilty of as well? As someone who studied PR in college, I can tell you that's actually the total OPPOSITE of what PR is supposed to be.
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 24, 2010 10:58:58 GMT -5
I think trash talking is wrestling is something that always has and always will be around. It's not like he is a full out attack dog, when someone points out he is wrong he is capable of admitting it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2010 11:01:19 GMT -5
And tacky. Which is why TNA's PR people could stand an etiquette class. They're quite classless at times, even by wrestling standards. Is it so hard not to trash talk your competitors. Especially on something you're guilty of as well? As someone who studied PR in college, I can tell you that's actually the total OPPOSITE of what PR is supposed to be. Exactly. It'd be like Microsoft accusing Apple of trying build a monopoly on MP3 players. All it does is draw attention to the fact that Microsoft has been accused of building a monopoly of its own.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 24, 2010 11:03:56 GMT -5
Just pills. It was on their youtube channel. Dixie was even asked about it in her youshoot. It went under the radar I think, which is why it isn't known about more. So this was an angle is what you are saying? Or does TNA's channel post many out of character type of videos? I'm confused. Also what pills? How would we know they aren't prescription or something? Not TNA's, Hall's. And yes, they may very well have been prescription pills (with booze?) but why are they putting it on youtube, unless they know TNA won't care?
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 24, 2010 11:14:52 GMT -5
So this was an angle is what you are saying? Or does TNA's channel post many out of character type of videos? I'm confused. Also what pills? How would we know they aren't prescription or something? Not TNA's, Hall's. And yes, they may very well have been prescription pills (with booze?) but why are they putting it on youtube, unless they know TNA won't care? Because Hall has a history of doing what he wants without thinking about whether the company he is working for cares or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2010 11:28:51 GMT -5
Not TNA's, Hall's. And yes, they may very well have been prescription pills (with booze?) but why are they putting it on youtube, unless they know TNA won't care? Because Hall has a history of doing what he wants without thinking about whether the company he is working for cares or not. And TNA has a history of hiring Hall. So what does that say about TNA?
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Dec 24, 2010 11:34:06 GMT -5
Not to mention Hamada being let go a couple weeks ago too. Hamada left on her own accord. Yes, but the point is, she didn't leave because she ENJOYED working there. Something had to drive her to it. Jed Shaffer ~A Kia Sephia!
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 24, 2010 11:45:19 GMT -5
Because Hall has a history of doing what he wants without thinking about whether the company he is working for cares or not. And TNA has a history of hiring Hall. So what does that say about TNA? That they are as gullible as other wrestling companies for continuing to give the guy chances. I don't think it means TNA doesn't care about his behavior. Edit: to phrase it better, I think it shows TNA has trusted him multiple times to change rather than it showing a disregard for those actions
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 24, 2010 12:07:12 GMT -5
And TNA has a history of hiring Hall. So what does that say about TNA? That they are as gullible as other wrestling companies for continuing to give the guy chances. I don't think it means TNA doesn't care about his behavior. Edit: to phrase it better, I think it shows TNA has trusted him multiple times to change rather than it showing a disregard for those actions It shows TNA is like a lot of businesses, willing to ignore problems and dangers to make a dollar.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2010 13:23:43 GMT -5
And TNA has a history of hiring Hall. So what does that say about TNA? That they are as gullible as other wrestling companies for continuing to give the guy chances. I don't think it means TNA doesn't care about his behavior. Edit: to phrase it better, I think it shows TNA has trusted him multiple times to change rather than it showing a disregard for those actions So the shorthand is - they're not very bright when it comes to this stuff. I mean, the first couple times - okay sure, but that last run . .. come on . ..
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 24, 2010 13:41:07 GMT -5
Exactly. From my view point I chalk it up as stupidity and gullibility rather than a lack of concern. If it was lack of concern I don't think he would ever be released to be rehired in the first place.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 24, 2010 13:44:12 GMT -5
Also, Scott Hall had the benefit of Hogan, the new guy on board, asking for him. People like Nash, who went to bat for him last time, weren't calling for him now.
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Post by quirkalicious on Dec 24, 2010 16:10:08 GMT -5
So this was an angle is what you are saying? Or does TNA's channel post many out of character type of videos? I'm confused. Also what pills? How would we know they aren't prescription or something? Not TNA's, Hall's. And yes, they may very well have been prescription pills (with booze?) but why are they putting it on youtube, unless they know TNA won't care? Hall bashed TNA on his youtube channel when he was still working for them. He clearly didn't care. Scott Hall is not exactly a "toe the company line" type of guy. Do you know which video of his this was in?
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 24, 2010 16:31:01 GMT -5
Robbie E openly admits to having a dayjob) uhhhh.... he's a gym teacher, and he is using his personal days until he quits
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 24, 2010 16:45:16 GMT -5
I doubt he will. What seriously are the chances of him quitting a decent paying job with benefits, to make practically nothing in TNA?
He also insisted he hadn't quit his job or even handed in his notice because "everything came as a surprise." Yes, that's why.
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