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Post by the5thhorseman on Dec 17, 2010 1:54:21 GMT -5
You usually can't trust the person, especially if drugs are involved. Look at Matt: How many times did he change his story over the European tour deal? When it first happened, he insisted nothing was wrong and he wasn't sent home. Then later, said well, okay he did get sent home but it all a huge misunderstanding. What does this have to do with Matt talking about the WWE's youth movement. Maybe because some of the impetus for the "youth movement" was they looked at Matt Hardy saw a guy who wasnt in good shape, was taking alot of pills, had been injured, and is getting older all the time. Just about everything Cody Rhodes said to him during that promo on Smackdown was right. Matt has decided to use youtube and twitter to try and stay on those evil dirtsheets he rants and raves about. The whole reason he was upset was because the "sheets" werent covering him on a radio show.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Dec 17, 2010 7:25:27 GMT -5
To be fair, when Matt isn't acting like a dick, he's fine. That was a solid, coherant interview.
It is worth noting that he backed up what Meltzer said about Jeff at the PPV.
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Post by wevecenanough on Dec 17, 2010 7:50:15 GMT -5
Dirtsheets do fear matt hardy, they fear that he will cover them in forsting and eat them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 9:20:00 GMT -5
Dirtsheets do fear matt hardy, they fear that he will cover them in forsting and eat them. I heard Matt Hardy went to a writer's convention and ate all the writers in the writer's convention so they had to close the writer's convention.
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Post by Orange on Dec 17, 2010 16:08:48 GMT -5
Helms said it best on twitter: "I will never understand why some fans believe the opinions of people who aren't even in the biz over those who are! So weird." People lie. That's why. Alright, so if people lie than why is the word of every internet blogger ALWAYS treated as truth when it comes to TNA? Shouldn't we question their word as much as we do the wrestlers? It's always the wrestlers lying, and it's always the bloggers and dirtsheet writers that are telling the truth, ALWAYS.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 17, 2010 19:44:16 GMT -5
Even if you want to take out the bloogers/dirtsheets....what about what we've seen with our own eyes? He's gotten better now they put him in scripted segments , but there was a time earier this year when he botching moves, looked out of it and was slurring his promos constantly. It seems very likely to me he was on something then.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2010 20:25:13 GMT -5
Alright, so if people lie than why is the word of every internet blogger ALWAYS treated as truth when it comes to TNA? Shouldn't we question their word as much as we do the wrestlers? It's always the wrestlers lying, and it's always the bloggers and dirtsheet writers that are telling the truth, ALWAYS. The same thing could be applied to any other wrestling company. If the story is positive, does that mean it's true? And if it's negative, is it a lie?
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Post by waluigi on Dec 17, 2010 21:41:32 GMT -5
Can we all just agree that the Hardys are scumbags?
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Post by Krimzon on Dec 17, 2010 22:55:05 GMT -5
There was a time when I was proud to say that I was from the same state as the Hardy Boyz. Now, not so much...
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Post by Massive G on Dec 18, 2010 0:04:49 GMT -5
Can we all just agree that the Hardys are scumbags? WhatAreYouTalkingAboutTHESTORYISNOTTRUE!! CantYouSeeWhatATerrificTacticThisIs?
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 18, 2010 10:02:09 GMT -5
Can we all just agree that the Hardys are scumbags? Nope.
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Post by jfrogg007 on Dec 18, 2010 11:35:56 GMT -5
More hearsay as far as I am concerned. I hate Hardy, he is a criminal who should be in Jail. Oh shit, why didn't you say so before?! And to think of all the time and money that's been wasted on arranging charges, a trial etc. You should let the judge know, Mr Arbiter of Justice. ^ This forever. Some internet fans really are bigger marks than JB.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 18, 2010 12:44:03 GMT -5
Saying "live and let live" doesn't apply here.
First of all, he has a newborn daughter. Second of all, he has a job where the safety of his of his oppenent relies on him being sober and clear-minded. It's not just about Jeff anymore.
Is any of this fact? No. But just there are now fairly credible people with connections to the company acknowledging that he's been allowed to wrestle impaired. Not to mention all the other stories. Not just the dirtsheets: I've lost count of the amount of house show reports/fan meetings that mention him in recent times seeming "out of it."
But, yeah, lets just ask Mr Anderson how everyone ignoring a clear problem worked out for him.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 18, 2010 13:11:52 GMT -5
Wasn't it Jim Cornette who said that last people you should ever trust are the ones "in the biz?" Yes, but if he's in the biz, then we shouldn't trust him, and we SHOULD trust those in the biz. But, if we can't trust him and he's in the biz then that means that we
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 13:15:16 GMT -5
Alright, so if people lie than why is the word of every internet blogger ALWAYS treated as truth when it comes to TNA? Shouldn't we question their word as much as we do the wrestlers? It's always the wrestlers lying, and it's always the bloggers and dirtsheet writers that are telling the truth, ALWAYS. I think we should actually. My comment was in regards to why people wouldn't believe someone in the "biz" - because they lie. For a living. I never said we shouldn't questions wrestling "journalists" as well. There's no reason you should believe CNN, NY Times or USA today either.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 18, 2010 18:22:31 GMT -5
I find it funny how Hardy got on the case of the dirtsheets, then said on Impact that Anderson shouldn't trust Morgan because everyone in the business was a con man.
I know it's part of his character, but he's not doing himself any favors.
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Post by percymania on Dec 18, 2010 20:03:18 GMT -5
"fear" and "hate" are two totally different things, Matt. That's all I have to add.
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 20, 2010 16:13:09 GMT -5
Alright, so if people lie than why is the word of every internet blogger ALWAYS treated as truth when it comes to TNA? Shouldn't we question their word as much as we do the wrestlers? It's always the wrestlers lying, and it's always the bloggers and dirtsheet writers that are telling the truth, ALWAYS. I think we should actually. My comment was in regards to why people wouldn't believe someone in the "biz" - because they lie. For a living. I never said we shouldn't questions wrestling "journalists" as well. There's no reason you should believe CNN, NY Times or USA today either. well, the thing about CNN and ect is that they reveal their sources. So, if someone were to lie, we would know who told the lie, and the person who did could receive repercussions(legally, or publicly). Wrestling journalist don't reveal any sources so when lies do happen no one knows who's to blame , so, there is a lot of chances for people to just make something up.
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 20, 2010 16:56:25 GMT -5
well, the thing about CNN and ect is that they reveal their sources. So, if someone were to lie, we would know who told the lie, and the person who did could receive repercussions(legally, or publicly). Wrestling journalist don't reveal any sources so when lies do happen no one knows who's to blame , so, there is a lot of chances for people to just make something up. Alright, name some of CNN's inside sources and good luck because they don't reveal them. Hell, the best source ever, Deepthroat, wasn't revealed until recently, some decades after he broke the Watergate scandal. Or more recently the whole issue surrounding Barry Bonds and the book on his steroid use where the authors refused to give up their source and face jail time. For what story? I would say they rarely just name people as inside sources, with out some sort of interview. even deep throat was one person, not just every single person that was a source to the Washington post. Also Books are not the news media
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Post by joeskvorecky on Dec 20, 2010 22:08:24 GMT -5
Helms said it best on twitter: "I will never understand why some fans believe the opinions of people who aren't even in the biz over those who are! So weird." People lie. That's why. Helms, like most wrestlers, is a carny. That's why.
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