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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 23, 2010 2:44:00 GMT -5
Different people have different opinions. Yet the constant underlying theme is often the same. When the support for that theme is based on completely opposing ideals, it becomes pretty clear that the groupthink isn't so much fair criticism as it is a predetermined conclusion. One person. In this thread ONE person said that it was a waste of money. Every one else is agreeing that they need to start doing a few impacts on the road.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 23, 2010 5:15:33 GMT -5
This is good for TNA. I agree that they should go Midwest. Have shows in places like St. Louis, Kansas City, Wichita, Salina, and Colorado Springs. You may scoff at Salina, but they've hosted WCW house shows. Also running house shows in the smaller cities like Salina can help you get a footing in Kansas.
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Post by BearDogg-X on Dec 23, 2010 8:37:49 GMT -5
About damn time. They should have done this at least two or three years ago.
Tour the Midwest and Southeast to establish a foothold outside Orlando and Florida in general.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 10:24:37 GMT -5
This is what I'm talking about from the Eric Bischoff thread. The OP was the only guy who said it was a terrible idea and you claim that the "collective mindset" is bashing TNA. It was one guy. Like I said before - if you look hard enough for it, you'll see what ever you want. But if one guy saying something is a bad idea is all it takes . . . Is JTG the one guy that seems to find enjoyment in any house shows where TNA draws less than stellar crowds? The OP's post isn't the first time I've heard this. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Within this thread he's the first (and honestly one of the only guys) to rag on TNA for this idea and you already painted it as a "negative collective mindset," when that's not the case. You're seeing something that isn't there.
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Post by golding on Dec 23, 2010 10:43:13 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Within this thread he's the first (and honestly one of the only guys) to rag on TNA for this idea and you already painted it as a "negative collective mindset," when that's not the case. You're seeing something that isn't there. Indeed, it is contrary to what you're talking about -- you're suggesting that one person doesn't make a collective mindset (and indeed if it were one person, you would be right), and I point out that this has been a criticism made beyond this thread. I don't think that's very challenging to understand.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 23, 2010 10:44:51 GMT -5
TNA gets called bush league for taping out of the Impact Zone, but is burning money for trying to find some expansion beyond it. The indecisiveness of a collective mindset... Oh, and I honestly think this is a smart move on TNA's part.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 10:47:52 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Within this thread he's the first (and honestly one of the only guys) to rag on TNA for this idea and you already painted it as a "negative collective mindset," when that's not the case. You're seeing something that isn't there. Indeed, it is contrary to what you're talking about -- you're suggesting that one person doesn't make a collective mindset (and indeed if it were one person, you would be right), and I point out that this has been a criticism made beyond this thread. I don't think that's very challenging to understand. Right - but your entire point was that people are being hypocrites for trashing TNA's idea to move out the iMPACT zone even after so many people said it would be a good idea. But that's not the case. Only one guy has said it would be a waste of money. No one beyond this thread has said that TNA moving out of Orlando would be a bad idea. In this thread or out of it - people are saying its a GOOD IDEA. There is no collective mindset about this issue in regards to it being a bad idea to get out of the impact zone. There's one guy. I think that's just as easy to understand.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 23, 2010 10:50:25 GMT -5
Indeed, it is contrary to what you're talking about -- you're suggesting that one person doesn't make a collective mindset (and indeed if it were one person, you would be right), and I point out that this has been a criticism made beyond this thread. I don't think that's very challenging to understand. Right - but your entire point was that people are being hypocrites for trashing TNA's idea to move out the iMPACT zone even after so many people said it would be a good idea. But that's not the case. Only one guy has said it would be a waste of money. No one beyond this thread has said that TNA moving out of Orlando would be a bad idea. In this thread or out of it - people are saying its a GOOD IDEA. There is no collective mindset about this issue in regards to it being a bad idea to get out of the impact zone. There's one guy. I think that's just as easy to understand. Indeed, it would seem the so-called "collective" believes leaving the Impact Zone is a GOOD idea...
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 23, 2010 11:08:30 GMT -5
So far on the Crap the main words of the week have been "bury" and "bashing".
I do think it's a good idea to take Impact on the road every now and then. TNA confuses over with the Impact Zone as a barometer of what is getting over with the rest of their demographic. I just hope they don't take the show to areas were they can't pull a decent paying audience out of it. If TNA got to paper the crowd, might as well stay in the Zone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 12:41:10 GMT -5
Sorry, but LOL at them realizing that the fans there are getting burned out.
The fans have been doing what it takes to entertain themselves there when they've been bored for YEARS.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 23, 2010 12:56:21 GMT -5
TNA gets called bush league for taping out of the Impact Zone, but is burning money for trying to find some expansion beyond it. The indecisiveness of a collective mindset... Oh, and I honestly think this is a smart move on TNA's part. Off-topic, but isn't that vid considering flaming?
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 23, 2010 13:52:14 GMT -5
if the crowds are getting burned out then perhaps they should be doing something different with the established fan base they already have to keep them interested instead of hoping there's another one elsewhere? this is the same fan base that mega poped for hoyt and shark boy.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 23, 2010 13:55:48 GMT -5
if the crowds are getting burned out then perhaps they should be doing something different with the established fan base they already have to keep them interested instead of hoping there's another one elsewhere? this is the same fan base that mega poped for hoyt and shark boy. So what? It's a fanbase none the less. Are they somehow less important to the company because they cheer for TNA originals?
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 23, 2010 14:42:57 GMT -5
this is the same fan base that mega poped for hoyt and shark boy. So what? It's a fanbase none the less. Are they somehow less important to the company because they cheer for TNA originals? Cause for the most part they cheered for these people to get themselves over, not because they thought they were actually talented.
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Dec 23, 2010 15:22:14 GMT -5
Definitely needed, but there's quite a bit working against them.
The major problem is the fact that TNA seems to have an issue marketing itself and connecting with the fans, as seen by "mixed" results at house shows. I know that both the WWE and TNA has been in my area in the past 12 months. Prior to Smackdown! taping in the area, there was a media blitz on every radio station, local television and (when I bothered to tune in) on WWE shows. Contrast that to TNA (actually staged a show at a smaller venue in the area), which received no promotion on any form of media in the local market. In all honesty, I didn't even know it was occurring until I saw mention of it on the internet a couple days later and I read the attendance was small.
And this is in the Northeast that everyone keeps mentioning.....in what many would describe as a relatively hot area for wrestling.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 23, 2010 15:31:48 GMT -5
So what? It's a fanbase none the less. Are they somehow less important to the company because they cheer for TNA originals? Cause for the most part they cheered for these people to get themselves over, not because they thought they were actually talented. And also they usually cheer for EVERYONE regardless of if the person is a heel or a face. Hell the Impact Zone fans are notorious for their alternating face/heel name chants, with little if any relation to what is actually going on in the ring, during big ticket matchups.
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Post by kleinnd on Dec 23, 2010 15:50:23 GMT -5
It's about freaking time.
They should seriously come to the Toronto area:
Ricoh Coliseum (there's a Smackdown house show there in February) Hershey Centre in Mississauga General Motors Centre in Oshawa (No Surrender 2008 was there) University of Toronto's Varsity Arena
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Dec 23, 2010 16:17:56 GMT -5
Just a note. The West coast is wide open for a larger fed. WWE barely comes out here and they could work with PWG if they want some new talent. I stand by this 100 percent.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 23, 2010 16:24:19 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Within this thread he's the first (and honestly one of the only guys) to rag on TNA for this idea and you already painted it as a "negative collective mindset," when that's not the case. You're seeing something that isn't there. Indeed, it is contrary to what you're talking about -- you're suggesting that one person doesn't make a collective mindset (and indeed if it were one person, you would be right), and I point out that this has been a criticism made beyond this thread. I don't think that's very challenging to understand. Umm... where? Seriously, I haven't seen anyone complain/mock TNA touring anywhere outside of one post in this thread. People complain/mock TNA advertising (or lack of it) that seems to lead to some house shows with really bad attendance, but I've not seen criticism about them touring common in any way outside of the person who thought it was wasting money. In fact, TNA's touring is usually pretty well respected advertising problems aside.
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Post by zeez on Dec 23, 2010 16:31:47 GMT -5
It sure couldn't hurt to try the show in some new markets. Maybe they'll find some crowds with some better chants. The Orlando crowd annoys me to no end with some of the dumb things they chant.
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