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Post by kodiak on Dec 30, 2010 9:49:47 GMT -5
How's that working out for you!? It would have worked out a lot better if WWE writers actually knew how to properly build wrestlers (not sports entertainers) over time instead of just throwing them out there in random matches or random programs without any build. Especially in Kaval's case, where he had absolutely no stories to work with and what, a two week program with Ziggler just to get rid of his title shot clause? Also, a potential Bragging Rights match spot that the writers gave to Tyler Reks instead, who hasn't been seen on TV since. It's rampant stupidity abound (see Cole) and everything seems to get aborted or botched before it really gets started. Kaval really is better off in the independents if he actually wants to have meaningful matches and programs. You know what will work for me? Triple H coming back and giving Cole wedgies again. It was fun to watch in the Attitude era, it's still be fun to watch (and viable) in the PG era.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Dec 30, 2010 10:00:54 GMT -5
Kaval is released, Low-Ki will get signed. Where does that leave Senshi? Unlockable character in the upcoming Mortal Kombat reboot.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Dec 30, 2010 10:07:19 GMT -5
I hadnt been watching much SD! at the time so watching the survivor series dvd from this year this kinda came as a surprise. Kayfabe wise Kaval is kinda an idiot. So if the Winner of NXT gets a title shot why in the hell would he choose it on the IC title instead of the world title? ? Stupid....stupid....STUPID!!!!!!
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Post by husti on Dec 30, 2010 10:11:02 GMT -5
I hadnt been watching much SD! at the time so watching the survivor series dvd from this year this kinda came as a surprise. Kayfabe wise Kaval is kinda an idiot. So if the Winner of NXT gets a title shot why in the hell would he choose it on the IC title instead of the world title? ? Stupid....stupid....STUPID!!!!!! Would you want to fight Kane when you can't even beat Chavo?
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Dec 30, 2010 10:17:11 GMT -5
The WWE saw Kaval as a bump machine. Even on NXT, he was jobbing to Riley and Harris left, right and centre, just to try and get their finishers over.
They obviously wanted to show that even if you win NXT, you won't be guaranteed success, and will have to pay your dues or whatever. They obviously just wanted to use Kaval to sell for others, because they never really saw him as anything else.
My two cents, anyway. The fans might've wanted Kaval to succeed, but the WWE would rather he lost to the likes of Tyler Reks and Drew McIntyre, who spent more time cultivating their talent in WWE developmental.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Dec 30, 2010 10:24:36 GMT -5
I hadnt been watching much SD! at the time so watching the survivor series dvd from this year this kinda came as a surprise. Kayfabe wise Kaval is kinda an idiot. So if the Winner of NXT gets a title shot why in the hell would he choose it on the IC title instead of the world title? ? Stupid....stupid....STUPID!!!!!! Would you want to fight Kane when you can't even beat Chavo? Triple threat match since Edge was part of the match. He has a much better chance then one on one.
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Post by randomranter on Dec 30, 2010 10:36:05 GMT -5
I hadnt been watching much SD! at the time so watching the survivor series dvd from this year this kinda came as a surprise. Kayfabe wise Kaval is kinda an idiot. So if the Winner of NXT gets a title shot why in the hell would he choose it on the IC title instead of the world title? ? Stupid....stupid....STUPID!!!!!! Kayfabe-wise, you're right. But look at it this way -- if it were Kane vs. Kaval instead of Ziggler vs. Kaval, all we would have seen is a rehash of the glorious Kane vs. Chavo ECW championship match from Wrestlemania. At least Kaval got to put on one decent match before being squashed and jobbed out to the point of asking to be released.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 30, 2010 12:58:11 GMT -5
Ha screw you Cole I voted for Henning
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Dec 30, 2010 13:45:47 GMT -5
Cole is freaking epic on the mic. I cant believe someone so bland and boring for the past 13 years is now the hottest promo guy in the WWE. His commentary is give or take, but given promo time he is phenomenal.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 30, 2010 13:47:22 GMT -5
Kaval beat Ziggler once, so he figured he could do it again. Makes sense to me.
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Post by eJm on Dec 30, 2010 17:34:34 GMT -5
Reading stuff like that makes me think that the WWE should grow the eff' up and stop acting like pissing off guys on the internet actually achieves anything.
And yes, I still dislike Cole's Heel Character even with the occasional moments of hilarity.
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Post by wrestlinggod13 on Dec 30, 2010 18:27:21 GMT -5
Low-ki/Kaval is better off in ROH for the time being. I say ROH should sign him and MVP and put them in a tag fued with WGTT and the Kings of Wrestling.
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Post by Joe Galt on Dec 30, 2010 18:30:47 GMT -5
I just checked out the atest NXT. I didn`t know this thread was made because of something Michael Cole actually said. I am sorry, but I thought his promo was awesome. He kind of had that CM Punk style of talking going.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 30, 2010 18:35:42 GMT -5
Maybe Cole is right. Maybe the internet geeks ARE wrong about everything. Hmmm,that creates a interesting dilemma.Half the internet thinks Cole is awesome,the other half thinks he sucks.If internet geeks are wrong about everything then that means the half that think he is great are wrong, making him great,but the people who hate him are wrong meaning he is good.My head hurts.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 30, 2010 18:36:49 GMT -5
Cole's promo was unique. A guy beloved by the net slamming someone who is also beloved by the net. Unlike when he was insulting Daniel Bryan, he has a fan following now. Would a Cole Miner who like Kaval get mad or excited about his "shoot" promo?
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Post by itssoeasy23 on Dec 30, 2010 19:24:49 GMT -5
Reading stuff like that makes me think that the WWE should grow the eff' up and stop acting like pissing off guys on the internet actually achieves anything. And yes, I still dislike Cole's Heel Character even with the occasional moments of hilarity. Well maybe the internet smarks should grow up and move on. The attitude era aint coming back, blood is gone, Cena is the top guy, and it'll be PG for the next few years. Maybe the internet douchebags should stop acting like WWE should be doing everything for them. Because clearly the WWE don't care about the internet and are making it obvious. As they should be.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 30, 2010 19:30:00 GMT -5
Reading stuff like that makes me think that the WWE should grow the eff' up and stop acting like pissing off guys on the internet actually achieves anything. And yes, I still dislike Cole's Heel Character even with the occasional moments of hilarity. Well maybe the internet smarks should grow up and move on. The attitude era aint coming back, blood is gone, Cena is the top guy, and it'll be PG for the next few years. Maybe the internet douchebags should stop acting like WWE should be doing everything for them. Because clearly the WWE don't care about the internet and are making it obvious. As they should be. Wow, condescending and namecalling to a mod. That's wise.
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Post by itssoeasy23 on Dec 30, 2010 19:36:08 GMT -5
Well maybe the internet smarks should grow up and move on. The attitude era aint coming back, blood is gone, Cena is the top guy, and it'll be PG for the next few years. Maybe the internet douchebags should stop acting like WWE should be doing everything for them. Because clearly the WWE don't care about the internet and are making it obvious. As they should be. Wow, condescending and namecalling to a mod. That's wise. I was not, by any means, name calling that person. I was just simply naming the reason's of why WWE should talk trash of the internet smarks. That's all.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 30, 2010 19:43:14 GMT -5
This is an odd thread.
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Post by eJm on Dec 30, 2010 19:53:50 GMT -5
Reading stuff like that makes me think that the WWE should grow the eff' up and stop acting like pissing off guys on the internet actually achieves anything. And yes, I still dislike Cole's Heel Character even with the occasional moments of hilarity. Well maybe the internet smarks should grow up and move on. The attitude era aint coming back, blood is gone, Cena is the top guy, and it'll be PG for the next few years. Maybe the internet douchebags should stop acting like WWE should be doing everything for them. Because clearly the WWE don't care about the internet and are making it obvious. As they should be. I love that you dogpile all these viewpoints onto me as though I think of them in the same way as everyone else does, really appreciate having words stuffed head long in my mouth. Also, you know what would be obvious to show that the WWE doesn't care about the 'internet douchebags' as you call them? Not mentioning the Internet whenever they can to enrage the internet. You're a big enough company to just take their viewpoints in the morning memos Vince gets, take it on the chin and move onto sitting in the money made from all the fans who aren't ranting and raving about the product. That's just counter productive to that viewpoint. It's like when big websites insult 4chan and then they act all surprised when their website gets shut down by hackers from 4chan. If you didn't mention them at all, you wouldn't be looking at a screen saying 'Error Page Not Connecting'.
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