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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Jul 20, 2011 14:40:39 GMT -5
Like I had said earlier as well, providing there are no objections, I wouldn't mind doing the Whitey/Evil M match.
EDIT: By all means Punisher, send me a PM, I'm game to hearing what you had in mind.
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Post by The Punisher on Jul 20, 2011 14:52:56 GMT -5
Like I had said earlier as well, providing there are no objections, I wouldn't mind doing the Whitey/Evil M match. EDIT: By all means Punisher, send me a PM, I'm game to hearing what you had in mind. It's waiting in your inbox now!
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Jul 20, 2011 14:55:40 GMT -5
It's waiting in your inbox now! lol And you have your reply.
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Jul 20, 2011 15:59:29 GMT -5
Oh and TTS and myself having that best of 5000 series
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jul 20, 2011 18:39:26 GMT -5
I'll take Steampunks/Seth'n'Rich.
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Post by Viva on Jul 21, 2011 12:22:43 GMT -5
Okay, I'll write my match. Socko, PM me the skinny on sparks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 12:27:08 GMT -5
I don't have time this weekend to do a match or I would. I will have a promo from Evil M and Mr. Nakatomi, however.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 21, 2011 13:16:35 GMT -5
I'll take Steampunks/Seth'n'Rich. Thanks, man. Hopefully I can have my regular computer back to life in time to write my rematch at BATB
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Post by Viva on Jul 21, 2011 13:33:18 GMT -5
I don't have time this weekend to do a match or I would. I will have a promo from Evil M and Mr. Nakatomi, however. Get me in on that broski.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 17:42:49 GMT -5
I don't have time this weekend to do a match or I would. I will have a promo from Evil M and Mr. Nakatomi, however. Get me in on that broski. Hey, I write for Ryder, not you! Yeah, I'll PM you when I start writing it. I actually have a good idea for your involvement.
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Jul 21, 2011 18:27:08 GMT -5
I feel bad for never writing matches but every time I try they come off as pretty crappy.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Jul 21, 2011 19:08:56 GMT -5
I feel bad for never writing matches but every time I try they come off as pretty crappy. If you wanted to write the match between you and Evil M I don't mind stepping aside Whitey. It's your match anyway so I kind of like to think that you would take precedence since it's your wrestler.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jul 21, 2011 19:40:34 GMT -5
I feel bad for never writing matches but every time I try they come off as pretty crappy. I think the keys to writing (what I imagine would be) good matches are: 1) Watch wrestling matches so that you know what you want to emulate in the first place. 80s matches, 90s matches, and modern matches are all different. House show matches, weekly TV matches, and Pay-Per-View matches are all different. The better you can differentiate between such factors and others, the better you should be able to figure out how you want to write the right match for the right show. This is what Viva is talking about when he criticizes about the spectacle and caliber of Niteraw matches versus PPV matches. = = = = = = = = = = = = 2) Know how to technically write - spelling, grammar, syntax, etc. = = = = = = = = = = = = 3) The story of the match is more important than the sum of the spots and holds within it. Know the events led up to the match you are about to write and know where it will go by the finish, whether you or someone else determines it. = = = = = = = = = = = = 4) Know the characters in your match and put over their gimmicks Read their profiles and promos leading up the match you are about to write. "Actions speak louder than words" is at a premium when writing a wrestling match to put over gimmicks. Wrestlers don't really talk during their matches, yet good wrestlers still can put their gimmick over with their actions. On a related note, try to make all opposing sides look good in a match in their own ways. Make them seem like worthy adversaries in spite of their differences. = = = = = = = = = = = = 5) Read matches to see how others write their matches. You'll probably adapt to some combination of influences over time. = = = = = = = = = = = = 6) Practice makes perfect. If you take up writing, you'll probably be better down the road than when you start. My first written match was BRB versus Aaron Enigma at Gookermania II. Compare and contrast that to last Niteraw's Hardcore Triple Threat, or to Wheel of Misfortune's Tag Team Championship. The latter two matches are probably better than the former. = = = = = = = = = = = = Finally here are some more personal touches I do for my matches, but I don't believe that they are fundamental to good match writing: - Commentary is key. Normally, when you're actually at a show, you don't hear commentary, but I always take these shows as being televised, hence the existence of commentary. Commentary helps summarize in-ring action, put angles into perspective, and provide a second-hand view of the bigger picture. In short, it helps make the match more clear for the audience.= = = = = = = = = = = = - On a related note: don't write about the audience - The reader is the audience; if they're into the match, that's all they need. I believe that it's arrogant to tell an unimpressed reader that the crowd is into a character or spot or the like. ========================== I think I have more to say, but I can't think of anything at the moment. Hopefully these tips help you out, as well as anyone else.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jul 21, 2011 21:37:31 GMT -5
Okay, I'll write my match. Socko, PM me the skinny on sparks. Will do sometime tomorrow; for now the voting's still open.
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Post by General Adam on Jul 21, 2011 21:41:18 GMT -5
What do you guys think of my corporate shill gimmick I trying to do?
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Jul 21, 2011 21:43:48 GMT -5
What do you guys think of my corporate shill gimmick I trying to do? Personally I'm loving it. Funny as hell when I read them. The last one you did I was almost tempted to have Connor tweet something about hoping that he had an action figure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 21:46:58 GMT -5
I like it, General.
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Post by General Adam on Jul 21, 2011 21:53:51 GMT -5
Good. Trying to do something new, and I hope it works.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jul 21, 2011 23:32:54 GMT -5
What do you guys think of my corporate shill gimmick I trying to do? So far so good!
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Post by Viva on Jul 22, 2011 3:02:25 GMT -5
I feel bad for never writing matches but every time I try they come off as pretty crappy. I think the keys to writing (what I imagine would be) good matches are: 1) Watch wrestling matches so that you know what you want to emulate in the first place. 80s matches, 90s matches, and modern matches are all different. House show matches, weekly TV matches, and Pay-Per-View matches are all different. The better you can differentiate between such factors and others, the better you should be able to figure out how you want to write the right match for the right show. This is what Viva is talking about when he criticizes about the spectacle and caliber of Niteraw matches versus PPV matches. = = = = = = = = = = = = 2) Know how to technically write - spelling, grammar, syntax, etc. = = = = = = = = = = = = 3) The story of the match is more important than the sum of the spots and holds within it. Know the events led up to the match you are about to write and know where it will go by the finish, whether you or someone else determines it. = = = = = = = = = = = = 4) Know the characters in your match and put over their gimmicks Read their profiles and promos leading up the match you are about to write. "Actions speak louder than words" is at a premium when writing a wrestling match to put over gimmicks. Wrestlers don't really talk during their matches, yet good wrestlers still can put their gimmick over with their actions. On a related note, try to make all opposing sides look good in a match in their own ways. Make them seem like worthy adversaries in spite of their differences. = = = = = = = = = = = = 5) Read matches to see how others write their matches. You'll probably adapt to some combination of influences over time. = = = = = = = = = = = = 6) Practice makes perfect. If you take up writing, you'll probably be better down the road than when you start. My first written match was BRB versus Aaron Enigma at Gookermania II. Compare and contrast that to last Niteraw's Hardcore Triple Threat, or to Wheel of Misfortune's Tag Team Championship. The latter two matches are probably better than the former. = = = = = = = = = = = = Finally here are some more personal touches I do for my matches, but I don't believe that they are fundamental to good match writing: - Commentary is key. Normally, when you're actually at a show, you don't hear commentary, but I always take these shows as being televised, hence the existence of commentary. Commentary helps summarize in-ring action, put angles into perspective, and provide a second-hand view of the bigger picture. In short, it helps make the match more clear for the audience.= = = = = = = = = = = = - On a related note: don't write about the audience - The reader is the audience; if they're into the match, that's all they need. I believe that it's arrogant to tell an unimpressed reader that the crowd is into a character or spot or the like. ========================== I think I have more to say, but I can't think of anything at the moment. Hopefully these tips help you out, as well as anyone else. To add to this, Boiler, I try to keep Niteraw matches within 10-15 power moves. That is MORE than enough to convey a story without making these matches too long. For PPV's I go 25-35 depending on placement on the card. That's just how I personally roll.
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