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Post by default on Apr 24, 2011 6:46:36 GMT -5
Definitely agree with the sports titles. When you consider how much the titles depreciate in value it's pretty obvious they're selling a crapload of copies and thus have some killer profitability. But it's incredibly easy to pick up a new copy of a sports title for half price around six months after its release and dirt cheap after that.
There's also nothing wrong with gaming companies charging $10 for used copies to get multiplayer. Ditto with hidden disc content that you have to pay for. It's no different than buying a computer and having a 30-day trial of Norton's or buying World of Warcraft and paying the monthly subscription. I don't see people complaining as much about paying sales tax on used stuff. It can be a little annoying in some instances, but it's still they're right and not shady.
I also don't get the hate on a lot of ports of older games and people saying games don't hold up today. Final Fight, Crazy Taxi, etc. are all still as fun to play now as they were when they were released.
Oh, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater through Tony Hawk Proving Ground was a killer series. I don't get all the THPS hate. They have some of the best controls ever, imo, and were all fun to play.
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darthalexander
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Post by darthalexander on Apr 24, 2011 8:13:26 GMT -5
I thought The Getaway was awesome.
Silent Hill is much better than Resident Evil (however I did like RE4).
I can't stand fighting games.
The Assassin's Creed games are among the best games I have ever played. God Of War as well.
GTA Vice City is the best of the series.
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Brain Of F'n J
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Apr 24, 2011 8:16:35 GMT -5
Portal 2 mutliplayer... It is two people overcoming the developers challenge and freaking brilliant. It also has online and split screen. Aware of that. And that's why I worded my statement as such, to exclude Portal 2, because it doesn't work the same as traditional multiplayer games. You need somebody's help to beat the actual game, rather than having the multiplayer be a standalone feature that does nothing for the single-player campaign. Jed Shaffer ~Raiden would've been much more tolerable if not for the excruciating relationship drama between him and Rose.
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Post by Disaster Report on Apr 24, 2011 8:18:18 GMT -5
The 360 offers nothing that the PC can't do 10 times better. Let me poke at this a little: are you saying a PC that would've been around when the 360 launched, or a PC today, or just PCs in general?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 24, 2011 8:28:45 GMT -5
FF IX is a really overlooked Final Fantasy, with who I think is one of the franchise's best villains. Yes, Kuja > Kefka and Sephiroth. Yes. I'd go so far as to say Kuja is one of the best villains I've in any form of media. Far greater than the overplayed Sephiroth. Raiden was an excellent character in MGS2, and his story and development were more interesting than another Solid Snake story would have been at that point. Totally agreed. I'm not gonna say I don't get the hate for him because I do but it's mostly from people who were pissed they weren't playing as Snake again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 8:37:24 GMT -5
Saints Row 2>GTA 4
Fallout 3 blows. Games REALLY shouldn't take that long to get even remotely good.
LttP is HEAVILY overrated. Honestly, it's the second worst game in the series, only ahead of the original game. Yep, Zelda II>LttP.
Speaking of which, Zelda II is the second best game on the entire NES, only behind Startropics.
Mortal Kombat II is the worst MK fighting game in the entire series, bar none. I would easily play the original, 3 or U3 (ESPECIALLY U3), 4, or any of the 3-d games than MKII.
The SSB Brawl soundtrack isn't all great. The Kirby songs in the game are HORRIBLE. Turning the music in that series into heavy metal buttrock garbage...did they seriously try to pass off Kirby as badass or something?! Cause they weren't even close. I honestly thought it was a complete joke or something. They also nerfed the Earthbound/Mother 3 songs, but those tracks were AMAZING in their original forms, plus the remakes/remixes are still good, so that's fine. The Kirby tracks were just okay to good to start with, and then made awful.
I've never played Earthbound, but i'd much rather play Mother 3 instead.
I like to think of Super Street Fighter IV as the real Street Fighter IV. It actually seemed like a new version of the game instead of just a good looking remake of SF2, which is all I saw in the original SF4.
Greatest story mode in a fighting game: Soul Caliber II. Though alot of it was text based, you had to put HOURS into that. Might not be the best story, but it's the best use of it.
"Greatest Games of Their Time" lists are made specifically to praise SMB1.
"It's the game that started it all" is never a valid reason to call a game your favorite.
Streets of Rage 3 is the best in the series and it's not even close (not counting the awesome SoR remake that got yanked offline).
Snaking in Mario Kart IS cheating, they fixed it in Mario Kart Wii. They didn't make it n00b friendly FTL or whatever you l33t kids say...oh wait, something about cake, right?
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Post by Disaster Report on Apr 24, 2011 8:48:51 GMT -5
Streets of Rage 3 is the best in the series and it's not even close (not counting the awesome SoR remake that got yanked offline). This is totally not an unpopular opinion, but I'm in the SoR2 camp. SoR3 feels sloppy to me. It's hard to explain. Just not as big a fan of it as some, of which there are many. It was news to me when I found out, too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 8:53:50 GMT -5
Streets of Rage 3 is the best in the series and it's not even close (not counting the awesome SoR remake that got yanked offline). This is totally not an unpopular opinion, but I'm in the SoR2 camp. SoR3 feels sloppy to me. It's hard to explain. Just not as big a fan of it as some, of which there are many. It was news to me when I found out, too. Really?!? I've seen a good number of people both here and on other places on the web crap all over 3. Honestly I thought it was awesome in all aspects, even the music was awesome.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Apr 24, 2011 9:21:14 GMT -5
STREET FIGHTER IV, MORTAL KOMBAT 9 AND MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3 OR SONIC 4 ARE NOT 2D! I'm so tired of the ''2d game'' In japan none of those games is considered a 2d game, because they still are 3d in a side scroller enviroment'' I'm so tired of this argument I'm really tired of the opposite argument, because it completely ignores gameplay and bases it solely off of graphics. I never understood why people based it solely off of graphics, especially when it leads to strange calculations like 2.5 D and a big shrug when presented with a game with free roaming environments or rendered backgrounds. and cel-shaded graphics. I don't think it matters what bit what they consider it in Japan either. Problem is that people don't consider that 2D is a form of graphics too I mean, the fatal fury games or guilty gear isuka are games when you can change planes, yet nobody call them 3D games except SNK who wanted to look edgy for reasons that didn't worked And I made the 2d in japan argument because lots northamericans seems to believe that sprites = 5 dollar games, there seems to be a big misconception in the western
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 24, 2011 9:47:33 GMT -5
People believe that 2D is a form of graphics, even if they don't respect it as much as they should. My problem comes from classifying genres based on their graphics. I find that completely stupid. If you re-released Street Fighter 2 with 3D graphics and backgrounds without changing game play, people would call it a 3D fighting game, and that's ridiculous.
Chess doesn't stop being chess if you use Star Wars figures instead of traditional pieces. Poker is still poker if you use a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle deck of cards. A Douglas Adams novel is still a Douglas Adams novel even if it's printed in pink ink instead of black ink. But yet the most important part of a game is put in the back seat by gamers when they put a game into a genre, and that just makes any form of classifying games meaningless.
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Post by scarecrow on Apr 24, 2011 9:49:38 GMT -5
A lot of people thought The Warriors command system sucked for controlling, I think people are exaggerating.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 24, 2011 10:31:38 GMT -5
- Fighting games aren't nearly as user-unfriendly as people make them out to be. Just because FPS's have dumbed down gameplay to "press button to kill" doesn't make fighting games horribly complicated. The effort people put into memorizing FPS weapons and maps isn't any less than required to figuring out the average fighting game character.
- On that vein, casual gaming =/= button mashing. Hardcore players are who play competitively or on that level . Casual gamers know the moves, but don't put the time in to learning how to exploit glitches. Button mashing is the equivalent of putting Madden in and giving the control to an infant, it's pure luck.
- By and large, FPS releases aren't any different from sports games in that they put a shiny new skin on the same game and call it a new release. The only innovation in the FPS genre by and large come from graphics. Other than that, they just set it in a different place, but the same weapons or analogues of them in and same overall gameplay, then they call it a new game.
- Portal isn't a shooter. I know people like to tout it as an innovative FPS, but it's not. It's an innovative puzzle game and a platformer game, but it isn't a shooter. Your gun is just the hook for reaching platforms, not a weapon. Calling it a shooter is like calling Left 4 Dead a sports game because you can use a baseball bat.
- The zombie apocalypse has become largely boring due to videogames. The one thing that made the zombie a unique enemy (ie: the fact that it was human and were people you knew) is completely lost in videogames. Mutating them further just sticks a dagger even further into it.
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Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Apr 24, 2011 12:36:40 GMT -5
Super Mario Galaxy is pretty overrated to me. I mean, yes I tthink it's a very good... just not in the same "second coming of Jesus" way that everyone else seems to think.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 24, 2011 13:56:18 GMT -5
Lunar: Silver Star Story and Lunar 2: Eternal Blue are the end-all/be-all of Japanese RPGs.
Their successors, the Grandia series, while not nearly as good (well after the first game) continued to have the best fighting system of pretty much any JRPGs.
In fact anything that Working Designs touched was friggin' sweet. And GameArts made some awesome stuff, especially storywise and character development.
I agree that FFXII was a great game. It was hated because it broke with the mold that FF is, in a lot of ways. But I believe that sometimes a breath of fresh air is NEEDED. Especially when the main team has gone off on some metaphysical tangent on the nature of identity and destiny with their stories.
BioWare makes the best RPGs period. Because they ARE ROLE-Playing games. JRPGs are not. You have no influence on the story in most cases, and the character really isn't yours.
Still some of them are a lot of fun.
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sryans
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Post by sryans on Apr 24, 2011 14:17:12 GMT -5
Alpha Protocol was a good game with many flaws, but it is by no means bad.
New Vegas was far better than Fallout 3
KOTOR 2 was much better than the original.
The best RPG ever is Planescape: Torment.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 24, 2011 14:30:00 GMT -5
When it comes to the story and the depth of the antagnonists Final Fantasy 12 is heads and shoulders above all the other installments, save possible the first Tactics game.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 24, 2011 14:30:46 GMT -5
The best RPG ever is Planescape: Torment. That's not controversial. Dat's da troof.
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Post by Sero on Apr 24, 2011 15:24:15 GMT -5
The 360 offers nothing that the PC can't do 10 times better. Let me poke at this a little: are you saying a PC that would've been around when the 360 launched, or a PC today, or just PCs in general? I mean PC's today.
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Sinestro
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Post by Sinestro on Apr 24, 2011 15:31:41 GMT -5
I feel like I am one of the few people who actually liked The Getaway. Anybody remember that game? It was a third person shooter/driving game set in London. I admit that the game had its flaws and the fact that you didn't have any HUDs or maps kind of took points away from the game, but I still enjoyed it for some reason. Yeah, I loved the second one, purely because how everyone was rude as hell, and leaning against a wall cured bullet wounds. Saint's Row 1 and 2 were far more entertaining than GTA IV, and possibly Vice City. Tt concur, I'd go so far as St. Row is a more fun series than gta on the whole.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 24, 2011 18:26:59 GMT -5
Super Mario Galaxy is pretty overrated to me. I mean, yes I tthink it's a very good... just not in the same "second coming of Jesus" way that everyone else seems to think. I loved SMG, but I gotta agree. Too easy and linear. 64, even though the graphics have aged terribly, still seems more inovative in some ways.
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