FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 17, 2011 14:08:53 GMT -5
I do prefer her stuff with a bit more craziness and metaphor (it wouldn't be too difficult to construct a novella around the stuff contained in the Alejandro video, for example), but doesn't hurt to keep it simple for once. Hope she does do something a bit more out there next time.
Does her getup in this remind anyone else of Pris from Blade Runner?
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4real
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Post by 4real on Jun 17, 2011 14:10:56 GMT -5
Saw the video earlier at the gym but couldn't really hear the song over the sound of Deftones on my iPod but she looked pretty nice I thought.
And the Katy Perry isn't that funny really, for one the fact she has that stupid 'oh aren't I so smart!' grin on her face the whole damn video is pretty annoying.
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Lila
El Dandy
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Post by Lila on Jun 17, 2011 16:54:08 GMT -5
Didn't she already release this song only it was called "Born This Way"? No, The Edge of Glory is about the moment before you die and knowing that you succeed in life. Born This Way is self explained. The songs are polar opposites.
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Phosphor Glow
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jun 17, 2011 17:04:22 GMT -5
Didn't she already release this song only it was called "Born This Way"? I don't really hear the similarities between the two. Had you mentioned "Judas" and compared it to "Bad Romance", however, yeah, that was basically the same song twice.
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jun 17, 2011 17:05:46 GMT -5
Didn't she already release this song only it was called "Born This Way"? No, The Edge of Glory is about the moment before you die and knowing that you succeed in life. Born This Way is self explained. The songs are polar opposites. I wasn't referring to the content, but rather the instrumentation. I have heard the entirety of the "Born This Way" album and so much of it sounds very "samey", i.e. she uses the same chord progressions, pre-chorus melodies etc. throughout much of the record. Her record company should have stepped in, but obviously she has too much control now.
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Lila
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Post by Lila on Jun 17, 2011 17:21:56 GMT -5
No, The Edge of Glory is about the moment before you die and knowing that you succeed in life. Born This Way is self explained. The songs are polar opposites. I wasn't referring to the content, but rather the instrumentation. I have heard the entirety of the "Born This Way" album and so much of it sounds very "samey", i.e. she uses the same chord progressions, pre-chorus melodies etc. throughout much of the record. Her record company should have stepped in, but obviously she has too much control now. She does in the fact that Alejandro wasn't suppose to be her 3rd single off of TFM, that Dance In The Dark was. She ended up releasing Alejandro without the higher ups permissions. It think she had to sign a contract where she couldn't do that again. Though I am happy she's letting the fans choose her next single. As for the song, yeah it does have a similiar sound to BTW and another song on the album, Hair.
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Jun 17, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -5
OMG She's so unique! That video is so deep and meaningful! She's a musical genius! Meh. she's like a more talented Mozart!
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Post by Orange on Jun 17, 2011 20:51:24 GMT -5
Meanwhile in Pop World... Katy Perry makes a video starring Rebecca Black, Hanson, 2 guys from Glee, Kenny G, Debbie Gibson & Cory Feldman. And gives me flashbacks to the glory of my "Saved By The Bell" youth. Man, I like 1980s nostalgia as much as anyone, but those 8 minutes were BRUTAL! Also, the director managed to transform Katy Perry from a 2010s generic looking girl to a 1980s generic looking girl. Bravo? After watching it again, I think I have to agree with you; it's not a great music video. I suppose it's fun for nostalgia purposes, but not for much more.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 18, 2011 5:21:41 GMT -5
No wonder the sax is the only part I like if it's played by Clarence Clemons.
This sounds basically just like a ton of her other songs.
Call me when she's got some ideas.
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Lila
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Post by Lila on Jun 18, 2011 15:52:25 GMT -5
No wonder the sax is the only part I like if it's played by Clarence Clemons. This sounds basically just like a ton of her other songs. Call me when she's got some ideas. Well, most songs in the same genre will end up sounding the same.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 18, 2011 19:58:32 GMT -5
No wonder the sax is the only part I like if it's played by Clarence Clemons. This sounds basically just like a ton of her other songs. Call me when she's got some ideas. Well, most songs in the same genre will end up sounding the same. I can't tell if this is insulting to my musical palette or to music in general.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 18, 2011 20:06:56 GMT -5
Does her getup in this remind anyone else of Pris from Blade Runner? You read my mind.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jun 18, 2011 20:56:17 GMT -5
Regardless of the song, she has never EVER done anything "shocking", and any one who has to be marketed that way tends to suck...
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FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 18, 2011 21:16:14 GMT -5
This sounds basically just like a ton of her other songs. Call me when she's got some ideas. Breaking news: Popular musician has consistent style, and similarities can be noted between songs. Also, Pope purportedly Catholic and woods apparently used for toilet purposes by bears.
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Post by craigdanbeaton on Jun 18, 2011 21:22:28 GMT -5
I have to say I enjoyed the video when I first saw it and now I enjoy it even more knowing that it might introduce Clarence Clemons to some people now that he's passed away.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 19, 2011 6:04:11 GMT -5
This sounds basically just like a ton of her other songs. Call me when she's got some ideas. Breaking news: Popular musician has consistent style, and similarities can be noted between songs. Also, Pope purportedly Catholic and woods apparently used for toilet purposes by bears. You call it consistent style, I call it a lack of progression over what is now a four year period. And the similarities between certain songs are preposterous. This isn't just 'having a style.' But then tons of artists do this, ending up with the same song over and over again (pop-punk artists a lot of the time, for one) but they usually manage more than two albums before it happens.
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Post by Orange on Jun 19, 2011 11:35:16 GMT -5
Breaking news: Popular musician has consistent style, and similarities can be noted between songs. Also, Pope purportedly Catholic and woods apparently used for toilet purposes by bears. You call it consistent style, I call it a lack of progression over what is now a four year period. And the similarities between certain songs are preposterous. This isn't just 'having a style.' But then tons of artists do this, ending up with the same song over and over again (pop-punk artists a lot of the time, for one) but they usually manage more than two albums before it happens. We must hear her music very differently then, because I can hear a distinct change of style between her 3 releases. "The Fame" was much more a traditional pop record, "The Fame Monster" was a bit different (and to be honest, it's my least favorite of everything she's done). "Born This Way" though is the best record she's done so far, and I can definitely tell the difference between the three. It's not like we're talking about AC/DC, where there is no change at all, in my opinion you can definitely tell a change between her records.
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zeez
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Post by zeez on Jun 19, 2011 16:10:36 GMT -5
I miss Clarence...
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Lila
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Post by Lila on Jun 19, 2011 16:35:16 GMT -5
Well, most songs in the same genre will end up sounding the same. I can't tell if this is insulting to my musical palette or to music in general. Neither. I saying that pop song is going to sound a like pop song just like any song in a different genre. Metal song is going to sound like a metal song. You're going to have songs either by the same person or different people that are going to sound the same.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 21, 2011 5:01:06 GMT -5
You call it consistent style, I call it a lack of progression over what is now a four year period. And the similarities between certain songs are preposterous. This isn't just 'having a style.' But then tons of artists do this, ending up with the same song over and over again (pop-punk artists a lot of the time, for one) but they usually manage more than two albums before it happens. We must hear her music very differently then, because I can hear a distinct change of style between her 3 releases. "The Fame" was much more a traditional pop record, "The Fame Monster" was a bit different (and to be honest, it's my least favorite of everything she's done). "Born This Way" though is the best record she's done so far, and I can definitely tell the difference between the three. It's not like we're talking about AC/DC, where there is no change at all, in my opinion you can definitely tell a change between her records. Admittedly, I've only heard the singles, which as far as I can hear have been pretty damned samey. It's fairly easy to sing half of them over each other, especially in the last couple of years. I'm not saying there's not been change, I'm saying I don't think there's been enough. Too many artists these days pick a basic sound and then don't deviate enough from it. Not that I'm saying artists should be too eclectic, because I hate that too - you end up not having a personality of your own. I'm saying people need to find the middle ground.
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