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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Sept 27, 2011 19:05:22 GMT -5
Seth. 4 first round matches. 2 this week, 2 next week. 2 second round matches 3 weeks from now. championship match for vacant title at NOWZ. My only gripe is that there's no build. I think you should do the entire first round next week, Socko. Gives the guys a week to promo and build and let the people vote. Okay so nothing happens 2 weeks from now.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Sept 27, 2011 19:16:17 GMT -5
Seth. 4 first round matches. 2 this week, 2 next week. 2 second round matches 3 weeks from now. championship match for vacant title at NOWZ. My only gripe is that there's no build. I think you should do the entire first round next week, Socko. Gives the guys a week to promo and build and let the people vote. Okay so nothing happens 2 weeks from now. Huh? It always goes like this: NiteRaw, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, PPV, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, PPV, etc. We start with eight in the first week, and narrow it down to six on that NiteRaw. We narrow it down to four on the next NiteRaw with another couple of tournament matches. We narrow it down to two on the go home show with two more tournament matches. We have the finals and the crowning of the new champion at the PPV. When does "nothing" happen?
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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Sept 27, 2011 19:37:08 GMT -5
The second week of matches could include Aaron enigma versus jeremy dupoe since we are setting up a match that week anyways trough the promo thread.
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Post by Viva on Sept 27, 2011 20:07:56 GMT -5
The second week of matches could include Aaron enigma versus jeremy dupoe since we are setting up a match that week anyways trough the promo thread. Why would you two be included in the tournament? I mean, over other people who have better reasons to be challenging for the belt. For s***s and giggles? I mean, obviously everyone's character could find a diluted way to justify challenging. Everyone wants a piece of that belt. But how does your feud tie in with the tournament?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Sept 27, 2011 20:11:31 GMT -5
Okay so nothing happens 2 weeks from now. Huh? It always goes like this: NiteRaw, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, PPV, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, NiteRaw, PPV, etc. We start with eight in the first week, and narrow it down to six on that NiteRaw. We narrow it down to four on the next NiteRaw with another couple of tournament matches. We narrow it down to two on the go home show with two more tournament matches. We have the finals and the crowning of the new champion at the PPV. When does "nothing" happen? My bad...........I messed up on my scheduling.
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Post by Jazzman on Sept 27, 2011 20:49:58 GMT -5
Ok my .02 on this whole tournament idea. First things first, deepest condolences to Whitey, take as much time as you need for the comeback.
If I was picking 8 people to be in the tournament they would be the following.
1) Jonathon Michaels, makes sense, wasn't pinned in ME, probably top face at this point in time
2) Ryan Blood, left alone right now after his title loss, past achievements
3 & 4 & 5) Three folks from Whitey Inc. I'm guessing Viva, Amigo and Vokoun, could be others, hard to say. You guys should be able to reason that one out together
6) Evil M, again a case of achievement to this point, rounds out the heel side of things
7) Me, achievement again, but probably losing and setting up a match with Amigo at NOTWZ I think
8) I'm looking at BRB, gets a fair shake at a world title after challenging multiple times.
First round match-ups
Vokoun v. Michaels
BRB v. Blood
Viva v M
Amigo v Bergman
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 21:15:20 GMT -5
If we want to talk who deserves a spot, lets look at the eight people, who are not currently Champions, who have had the greatest impact recently.
1) Jono: Just main evented his second GookerMania in a row, has been a force to be reckoned with all year, and definitely deserves another shot at the title
2) Seth Drakin: Has had a number of matches with the previous Champ, all of which his lost via distraction. Won Battle Bowl, and is certainly deserving of a title reign that isn't meant to simply put someone else over
3) Colt: Ended DR Jackson's reign and was the top heel for most of the year. Never had a rematch for the title and belongs in the title scene
4) Ryan Blood: My pick for fastest rise up the ladder. Helped rebuild the tag team division, had a good run with the Championship of Honor, and is ready to move up the card
5) Amigo: Helped Blood build the tag division up, had a number of close matches with The General for the Hardcore title, a unique Tag title run with Bergman, and looks ready to get back in the hunt
6) Bergman: Finally seems to be back on track and ready to embark on a hot feud with Whitey Inc, mainly Amigo. Even if he was there just to put someone else over, he definitely needs to be part of the tournament
7) The General of the Monkey Army: Probably a dark horse pick, but considering he spent most of 2011 as the face of the tag team division, and the fact that he's in nearly everyone's "fave five"(yes, a Booker T reference, folks), I'd say he deserves a shot
8) Evil M: Yes, myself. I spent a while trying to decide if I really belonged on this list, but after looking at the roster, I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't be. Started the year as Champion of Honor, had a feud with Jono that was well-received, nearly won Battle Bowl, and captured a briefcase during Money in the Bank or Botch.
Strong arguments can be made for ViVA, Mulligan, Vokoun, Richlen, and Connor, but their current title status SHOULD rule them out, simply because if one of them were to win the title, we'd have another vacancy to deal with.
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Post by Jazzman on Sept 27, 2011 21:19:55 GMT -5
If we want to talk who deserves a spot, lets look at the eight people, who are not currently Champions, who have had the greatest impact recently. 1) Jono: Just main evented his second GookerMania in a row, has been a force to be reckoned with all year, and definitely deserves another shot at the title 2) Seth Drakin: Has had a number of matches with the previous Champ, all of which his lost via distraction. Won Battle Bowl, and is certainly deserving of a title reign that isn't meant to simply put someone else over 3) Colt: Ended DR Jackson's reign and was the top heel for most of the year. Never had a rematch for the title and belongs in the title scene 4) Ryan Blood: My pick for fastest rise up the ladder. Helped rebuild the tag team division, had a good run with the Championship of Honor, and is ready to move up the card 5) Amigo: Helped Blood build the tag division up, had a number of close matches with The General for the Hardcore title, a unique Tag title run with Bergman, and looks ready to get back in the hunt 6) Bergman: Finally seems to be back on track and ready to embark on a hot feud with Whitey Inc, mainly Amigo. Even if he was there just to put someone else over, he definitely needs to be part of the tournament 7) The General of the Monkey Army: Probably a dark horse pick, but considering he spent most of 2011 as the face of the tag team division, and the fact that he's in nearly everyone's "fave five"(yes, a Booker T reference, folks), I'd say he deserves a shot 8) Evil M: Yes, myself. I spent a while trying to decide if I really belonged on this list, but after looking at the roster, I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't be. Started the year as Champion of Honor, had a feud with Jono that was well-received, nearly won Battle Bowl, and captured a briefcase during Money in the Bank or Botch. Strong arguments can be made for ViVA, Mulligan, Vokoun, Richlen, and Connor, but their current title status SHOULD rule them out, simply because if one of them were to win the title, we'd have another vacancy to deal with. If we do take out title holders that's an acceptable 8, I would almost say that BRB should maybe get in ahead of Colt, but it's hard to say. That's the problem with stuff like this, some people who might deserve it will feel wronged.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Sept 27, 2011 21:22:18 GMT -5
I'm willing to drop out, as what my promo on Raw will help explain.
Normally, I'd be all over this like Elvis on a fried banana and peanut butter sandwich, though.
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Post by Viva on Sept 27, 2011 21:41:03 GMT -5
Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Sept 27, 2011 21:56:21 GMT -5
And I already said that I didn't want in.
I do have another suggestion, however: maybe the two who lose to the two finalists could face off for the #1 Contender spot at NOTWZ, and that winner faces the WWCF World Champion at In Your Apartment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 22:08:28 GMT -5
Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird. If it's any consolation, if I had been booking the tournament as described on the last page, you'd definitely be in it, as would BRB, Castle, and Dupoe.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Sept 27, 2011 22:08:57 GMT -5
And I already said that I didn't want in. I do have another suggestion, however: maybe the two who lose to the two finalists could face off for the #1 Contender spot at NOTWZ, and that winner faces the WWCF World Champion at In Your Apartment. I like that idea very much. Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird. Sorry, but I am gonna have to agree with M on his idea, but I would like to make one additional edit. The person who has the world title briefcase should also be excluded from the tournament.
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Post by Viva on Sept 27, 2011 22:13:52 GMT -5
And I already said that I didn't want in. I do have another suggestion, however: maybe the two who lose to the two finalists could face off for the #1 Contender spot at NOTWZ, and that winner faces the WWCF World Champion at In Your Apartment. I like that idea very much. Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird. Sorry, but I am gonna have to agree with M on his idea, but I would like to make one additional edit. The person who has the world title briefcase should also be excluded from the tournament. I wouldn't want to compete with me for votes, either. But the fact still remains that I pinned your ass the nightraw before Gookermania. If you get to be in it, so should I.
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Post by Jazzman on Sept 27, 2011 22:18:54 GMT -5
Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird. Ya know Viva, I sense a ton of hypocrisy in what you say. Whether it's intended or not is what I'm uncertain on. First you bash the idea that Seth and Jono should get near the title shot because they had their chance, yet at the mention of you being left out of the tournament because you have a title, and probably a match at NOTWZ, you demand to be included because you feel it's your right. Look man, I don't want to come off like an ass here, but even you have to see the hypocrisy there. I get that you feel like you did a lot with your character overhaul and I think that you did (even though I remember you said you didn't want to become a CM Punk ripoff, which imo you have) I get you feel like you have a claim to the tournament and I'm sure if we asked literally everyone in the fed all of us would want to be in it, but it stands up that the idea of that is an impossibility and a organizational nightmare for Blood to take on. I again hope you don't get too upset about this, but I just think that you need to step back for a second and notice what your saying and how you are saying it. Maybe it's a personality clash between you and I, but even in posts out of character you are coming through to me as a super douche about stuff.
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Post by Viva on Sept 27, 2011 22:22:46 GMT -5
Ya'll can certainly suckle my sweet, sweet penis. Because I'm definitely gonna be in the tournament. Especially considering those tag straps belts are Freebird. Ya know Viva, I sense a ton of hypocrisy in what you say. Whether it's intended or not is what I'm uncertain on. First you bash the idea that Seth and Jono should get near the title shot because they had their chance, yet at the mention of you being left out of the tournament because you have a title, and probably a match at NOTWZ, you demand to be included because you feel it's your right. Look man, I don't want to come off like an ass here, but even you have to see the hypocrisy there. I get that you feel like you did a lot with your character overhaul and I think that you did (even though I remember you said you didn't want to become a CM Punk ripoff, which imo you have) I get you feel like you have a claim to the tournament and I'm sure if we asked literally everyone in the fed all of us would want to be in it, but it stands up that the idea of that is an impossibility and a organizational nightmare for Blood to take on. I again hope you don't get too upset about this, but I just think that you need to step back for a second and notice what your saying and how you are saying it. Maybe it's a personality clash between you and I, but even in posts out of character you are coming through to me as a super douche about stuff. Oh, no. I don't take anything on here personally. I take voting personally sometimes, but not opinions or what have you. I just think if you're going to vacate the title, then f*** if I shouldn't be involved. That's the whole point of this thing. To vote. And obviously in character I'd vacate tag belts to get a shot at the WWCF title. That's obivously. I'm not about to take a backseat to two people who just lost out on their chances. You got the opportunity. If anything, they shouldn't be in the tournament. They don't really have a claim to it in character or otherwise. But I get why you'd keep them in there under this circumstance. Whether you feel my character is a CM Punk ripoff or not is irrelevant at this point. I'm getting votes. I'm successful, and I just pinned the #1 Contender a week before his championship match. I'm over as f*** right now in the voting. So obviously I want to see how far I'd get in the tournament. That's the whole fun of this thing. I also want to make clear that I pinned the #1 contender a week before Gookermania. He lost his match at Gookermania. Ergo, both in character and otherwise, I feel I obviously should get a shot. But definitely in character. I mean you also have to look at it like Whitey just got taken out by means beyond his control, and I'm his second in command. I've stepped up to run Whitey Inc. His ego is now going to his head, it's now ViVA, Inc. And obviously he thinks he deserves a shot. I think the notion that he doesn't at this point is kind of ridiculous. And also: stop taking me seriously OOC. I'm f***ing around. I don't take this as seriously as some of you guys do. If I'm coming off as a douche, you have to understand that what I'm saying is with no emotion whatsoever. I'm not really concerned about offending you guys because it's just essentially back and forth about fake characters in a thing that we do for fun. Remember that, at least in my case.
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Post by Jazzman on Sept 27, 2011 22:24:17 GMT -5
Ya know Viva, I sense a ton of hypocrisy in what you say. Whether it's intended or not is what I'm uncertain on. First you bash the idea that Seth and Jono should get near the title shot because they had their chance, yet at the mention of you being left out of the tournament because you have a title, and probably a match at NOTWZ, you demand to be included because you feel it's your right. Look man, I don't want to come off like an ass here, but even you have to see the hypocrisy there. I get that you feel like you did a lot with your character overhaul and I think that you did (even though I remember you said you didn't want to become a CM Punk ripoff, which imo you have) I get you feel like you have a claim to the tournament and I'm sure if we asked literally everyone in the fed all of us would want to be in it, but it stands up that the idea of that is an impossibility and a organizational nightmare for Blood to take on. I again hope you don't get too upset about this, but I just think that you need to step back for a second and notice what your saying and how you are saying it. Maybe it's a personality clash between you and I, but even in posts out of character you are coming through to me as a super douche about stuff. Oh, no. I don't take anything on here personally. I take voting personally sometimes, but not opinions or what have you. I just think if you're going to vacate the title, then f*** if I shouldn't be involved. That's the whole point of this thing. To vote. And obviously in character I'd vacate tag belts to get a shot at the WWCF title. That's obivously. I'm not about to take a backseat to two people who just lost out on their chances. You got the opportunity. If anything, they shouldn't be in the tournament. They don't really have a claim to it in character or otherwise. But I get why you'd keep them in there under this circumstance. Whether you feel my character is a CM Punk ripoff or not is irrelevant at this point. I'm getting votes. I'm successful, and I just pinned the #1 Contender a week before his championship match. I'm over as f*** right now in the voting. So obviously I want to see how far I'd get in the tournament. That's the whole fun of this thing. I also want to make clear that I pinned the #1 contender a week before Gookermania. He lost his match at Gookermania. Ergo, both in character and otherwise, I feel I obviously should get a shot. Alright then, fair enough.
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Post by Viva on Sept 27, 2011 22:26:24 GMT -5
You should check my edit, Berg.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Sept 27, 2011 22:26:29 GMT -5
One other question: will the Tournament Finals end up in the Chamber of Horrors?
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Post by Jazzman on Sept 27, 2011 22:29:12 GMT -5
You should check my edit, Berg. Got it, I was wondering because I know that we've had people get pretty worked up about shit before, including you. I just don't want that kind of stuff to pervade throughout threads and such. Harmony is the goal.
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