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Post by Disaster Report on Mar 19, 2011 6:05:47 GMT -5
Would Jake Roberts Heel turn in 91 go under this? I can't for the life of me remember an actual reason he turned heel. He went from major sympathy angles with getting sprayed in the eyes with Arogence and Earthquake squashing his snake... to leading Warrior to a room full of snakes and turning heel. I remember back then I was like...wait.. What? I still am to this day confused about it. Was it because mentally he snapped because he lost Damien? I think Jake officially turned heel when Warrior got bitten by a snake in that room and then revealed he was in cahoots with The Undertaker. Remember, he was supposedly training Warrior to fight Undertaker. Yeah, because Jake had an "understanding" of the dark side. He was even on Funeral Parlor, threatening to show the Warrior the ways of the dark side, which Bearer didn't like. So I think it wasn't so much that he was a good guy who suddenly went bad, I always took him as a guy who could play it either way, which is exactly what being a snake is all about.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 19, 2011 6:14:37 GMT -5
The Great Khali randomly deciding to not hit Undertaker with a chair once and instead turning hostile on The Big Show made him babyface. When you consider the history between Taker and Khali, this becomes more puzzling.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 19, 2011 8:00:09 GMT -5
former broadcaster Jonathan Coachman randomly siding with Eric Bischoff during Summerslam '03 by attacking Shane McMahon during his match against the Bisch. But then that was explained.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 10:24:58 GMT -5
Or the Bellas for that matter (no, "we're mad at Gail Kim" is not a valid reason for people to suddenly go from happy-go-lucky to bastions of hostility). Also Mark Henry. Turns face simply by laughing and wagging his finger at Randy Orton. Ah, Mark Henry's "return". (To be fair, Randy Orton challenged anybody in the back to a match, and Mark waddles out with a huge smile on his face.) I guess since he was gone for a few months we were supposed to forget he was the demon spawn of the Predator and destroyed babyfaces for the previous couple of years. About as random as Tony Atlas' turn to face. He starts laughing like a goof at Abraham Washington on his talk show and he's more over with the fans than he ever was as Mark Henry's manager. (Or as Rocky Johnson's partner 25 years earlier.)
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Post by bobversion1 on Mar 19, 2011 10:44:15 GMT -5
Does anyone remember a 1 on 1 match between Jim Neidhart & one of the members of Demolition? It was either on Superstars or Challenge... Neidhart eeked out a win, attempted to leave with the tag belts... And ended up being on the wrong end of a full demolition beatdown. Yeah it was one of the like Summer Slam Showdown or one of those type of special hype shows before a big ppv back in the early 90s... I miss those. Supposidly Bret wasn't in the arena for some reason or another.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Mar 19, 2011 11:14:35 GMT -5
Has Kane been mentioned? If not, then Kane.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 19, 2011 11:22:10 GMT -5
Or the Bellas for that matter (no, "we're mad at Gail Kim" is not a valid reason for people to suddenly go from happy-go-lucky to bastions of hostility). Also Mark Henry. Turns face simply by laughing and wagging his finger at Randy Orton. Ah, Mark Henry's "return". (To be fair, Randy Orton challenged anybody in the back to a match, and Mark waddles out with a huge smile on his face.) I guess since he was gone for a few months we were supposed to forget he was the demon spawn of the Predator and destroyed babyfaces for the previous couple of years. About as random as Tony Atlas' turn to face. He starts laughing like a goof at Abraham Washington on his talk show and he's more over with the fans than he ever was as Mark Henry's manager. (Or as Rocky Johnson's partner 25 years earlier.) Actually, Henry had been wrestling on ECW as a heel the week prior to being drafted to Raw. He was engaged in a feud with Evan Bourne (who also got drafted) and took part in the Championship Scramble at The Bash.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 11:30:28 GMT -5
Ah, Mark Henry's "return". (To be fair, Randy Orton challenged anybody in the back to a match, and Mark waddles out with a huge smile on his face.) I guess since he was gone for a few months we were supposed to forget he was the demon spawn of the Predator and destroyed babyfaces for the previous couple of years. About as random as Tony Atlas' turn to face. He starts laughing like a goof at Abraham Washington on his talk show and he's more over with the fans than he ever was as Mark Henry's manager. (Or as Rocky Johnson's partner 25 years earlier.) Actually, Henry had been wrestling on ECW as a heel the week prior to being drafted to Raw. He was engaged in a feud with Evan Bourne (who also got drafted) and took part in the Championship Scramble at The Bash. Which makes it even more random. Who watched ECW?
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 19, 2011 11:35:03 GMT -5
Actually, Henry had been wrestling on ECW as a heel the week prior to being drafted to Raw. He was engaged in a feud with Evan Bourne (who also got drafted) and took part in the Championship Scramble at The Bash. Which makes it even more random. Who watched ECW? That was WWE's line of thinking, pretty much. Which is sad, since I loved WWECW!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 11:40:36 GMT -5
John Morrison when he was drafted to Smackdown in 2009. Randomly wrestles heel Shelton then fights Jericho backstage.
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Post by woowoowoox on Mar 19, 2011 12:02:41 GMT -5
John Morrison when he was drafted to Smackdown in 2009. Randomly wrestles heel Shelton then fights Jericho backstage. He turned face by Miz turning on him, did he not?
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Post by 67 more on Mar 19, 2011 12:13:13 GMT -5
Jillian in 2007. Had been a face for months, was randomly teamed with Kristal for one tag match against Ashley and Layla, then the next week was threatening to disfigure Ashley with no explanation whatsoever. A month later, she started singing.
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Post by PKO on Mar 19, 2011 12:22:20 GMT -5
John Morrison when he was drafted to Smackdown in 2009. Randomly wrestles heel Shelton then fights Jericho backstage. He turned face by Miz turning on him, did he not? He was still a heel for a few weeks before turning with no real reason. Jillian in 2007. Had been a face for months, was randomly teamed with Kristal for one tag match against Ashley and Layla, then the next week was threatening to disfigure Ashley with no explanation whatsoever. A month later, she started singing. Most of the divas around that time turned heel/face with next to no explanation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 12:24:28 GMT -5
He turned face by Miz turning on him, did he not? He was still a heel for a few weeks before turning with no real reason. Jillian in 2007. Had been a face for months, was randomly teamed with Kristal for one tag match against Ashley and Layla, then the next week was threatening to disfigure Ashley with no explanation whatsoever. A month later, she started singing. Most of the divas around that time turned heel/face with next to no explanation. Other than Beth, who suddenly showed up as a heel, I don't actually remember anyone else who that's the case for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 12:24:45 GMT -5
John Morrison when he was drafted to Smackdown in 2009. Randomly wrestles heel Shelton then fights Jericho backstage. He turned face by Miz turning on him, did he not? Not exactly. He faced Bourne the next night and another face, forget who, on SmackDown that week.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Mar 19, 2011 12:26:16 GMT -5
Demolition turned heel over the summer of 1990 with no real major event or explanation that I recall. They had started using a third member around this time but they just kind of became defacto heels slowly over the summer to the point of randomly having Mr. Fuji back as their manager in the autumn. I think anytime you go Freebird w/ your team, it's like a defacto heel thing. Something inherently douchey about the concept that comes off as unfair.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Mar 19, 2011 12:30:51 GMT -5
Ah, Mark Henry's "return". (To be fair, Randy Orton challenged anybody in the back to a match, and Mark waddles out with a huge smile on his face.) I guess since he was gone for a few months we were supposed to forget he was the demon spawn of the Predator and destroyed babyfaces for the previous couple of years. About as random as Tony Atlas' turn to face. He starts laughing like a goof at Abraham Washington on his talk show and he's more over with the fans than he ever was as Mark Henry's manager. (Or as Rocky Johnson's partner 25 years earlier.) Actually, Henry had been wrestling on ECW as a heel the week prior to being drafted to Raw. He was engaged in a feud with Evan Bourne (who also got drafted) and took part in the Championship Scramble at The Bash. Yup, Henry was either drafted by or traded to Raw from ECW along with Evan Bourne and Jack Swagger, and that was the match where Orton had to run the gauntlet of all three.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 19, 2011 12:40:59 GMT -5
I would say Kristal had a random heel turn in 2006 I believe but then again, it was explained. I remember at the time, Ashley jumped to Smackdown and was being interviewed by Kristal, talking about how she won the Diva Search and Kristal got all mad because she was one of the runner-ups.
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Post by Sparvid on Mar 19, 2011 13:30:49 GMT -5
He turned face by Miz turning on him, did he not? He was still a heel for a few weeks before turning with no real reason. And after Miz attacked him, they were on different shows and didn't interact again for six months, so it couldn't even be explained with something like "I'm feuding with a heel while being the lesser of two evils".
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Post by keezy on Mar 19, 2011 13:40:11 GMT -5
Tyler Reks before Bragging Rights, going from a babyface surfer who jobbed to Zack Ryder with a nearly a year's hiatus to a 'Dreadlocked Demolition Man', nothing really warranted it, he just sort of appeared.
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