Haulk
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Post by Haulk on Apr 21, 2011 20:23:27 GMT -5
When I was in 8th grade I still thought championship matches where not scripted and all chair shots where real.
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isink
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Post by isink on Apr 21, 2011 20:46:47 GMT -5
I had a grade school teacher who told the class how in the '60s he would watch it with his dad when he was a kid. His dad belived it was real, but the kids knew it was fake. No matter what the match or show ended started at 7, and ended at 8 sharp.
WWF and McMahon admited it was fake in the early '90s to avoid a luxery tax placed on sports.
As a kid (age 8) I knew the matches were predecided. But I didn't understand the entire show itself was a scripted TV show. I'm pretty sure if you compare wrestling to reality TV there is more real in it.
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isink
Don Corleone
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Post by isink on Apr 21, 2011 20:47:20 GMT -5
When I was in 8th grade I still thought championship matches where not scripted and all chair shots where real. Hell there's a reoson they banned the chair shots....
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 21, 2011 21:01:03 GMT -5
Me and alot of kids I knew back in the early 90's wanted to believe it was real. We knew it wasn't exactly on the level, but had no idea how the business really worked. It wasn't until sometime in 1998 or so, that I got online and "smartened up".
Honestly, I'm sure there's atleast a small minority of fans who still think it's somehow "real".
And I have friends who still don't like to acknowledge that it's all staged. They know it's not real, but they don't want to know how it's done.
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Cavs for Mavs Mafia
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Post by Cavs for Mavs Mafia on Apr 21, 2011 21:08:17 GMT -5
I used to hear kids say that wrestling in WWF and WCW was fake but that ECW was real.
I don't remember the exact moment. I think I gradually caught on because in every match the heel would start off dominating and babyface would make the comeback. I used to think they scripted every match before hand. I really got back into wrestling after Secerts of Pro Wrestling revealed because I was fasinated by how matches are actually worked.
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Post by RYAN R0CK5 on Apr 21, 2011 21:08:27 GMT -5
I remember being young and watching World of Sport on ITV (England) and even the adults we're convinced that was real! When the American wrestling first got shown they we're all like "its all fake that American crap" I was around 8 years old and had been watching for around 3 years!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 22:29:37 GMT -5
I remember knowing that the moves were fake, but the storylines were real. I don't know how I came to that conclusion
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Post by paulbearer on Apr 21, 2011 23:14:05 GMT -5
-Hey Sheamus , wrestling is soooooo fake yknow !
*Sheamus starts slamming his fist into the back of the rude fan , hammering away*
-Its *still* real to ME , fella ! *grins evil smirk*
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BigBadZ
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Post by BigBadZ on Apr 21, 2011 23:18:55 GMT -5
So if wrestling is fake, is entertainment real?? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 0:43:14 GMT -5
There are people over the age of 40 out there right now that still think it's real.
More than you'd think too.
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Post by paulbearer on Apr 22, 2011 6:30:05 GMT -5
Yes , we all know Sheiky baby thinks its real.....lol
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Post by IMPRESSIVE knightwing1047 on Apr 22, 2011 7:49:10 GMT -5
I was kind of a strange case - In the late '80s, I started watching WWF Superstars on Saturday mornings just like any of the other cartoon/action shows I liked as a kid, and I was surprised to find out that people thought it was real!This was kind of the head-scratching equivalent of finding out that there was a group of people who thought the Ninja Turtles were real and another who disliked them simply because they were "fake." Of course, when I was that young, I was in the camp of people who thought that it was faaar more "fake" than it actually was. I'm in the exact same boat. I don't know if it's because my dad smartened me up the moment we started watching or if I just kinda put 2 and 2 together, but I just always remember back when I was a kid, knee-high to a grasshopper, eating baloney sandwiches ('course there was only one slice of baloney) knowing it was scripted. I honestly couldn't believe it when kids I went to school with thought it was 100% legit. I think even as a lil' Hulkamaniac (brother)-- with traces of Lil' Warrior in me-- in the late 80s/early 90s I thought that if you punched someone in the face or dropped them on their head, or threw them out of the ring, etc.... you'd probably kill them. They probably wouldn't be able to get up 5 minutes later after drinking that entire can of ass-whip, and come back to win the match... YES I'M LOOKING AT YOU, HOGAN!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 8:31:08 GMT -5
I also recall my dad saying that as a kid, he would go to local indy shows held in school gyms, and the faces and heels would arrive and leave in cars together, acting like they were best buddies after they had just had a match.
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 22, 2011 9:59:03 GMT -5
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME!!!
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Apr 22, 2011 11:49:11 GMT -5
People first started questioning the legitimacy of professional wrestling around the 1920s. Frank Gotch retired in 1912 and due to that pro wrestling started to really wane in popularity. The question is when it started to become a show rather than a legit sport. Some say matches were starting to be fixed going back to the 1880s but no one really knows. My guess is it became more of a show overall in the 1930s. Most pro wrestling before the 20s and 30s was most likely completely legit. Ed Lewis, Billy Sandow, and Toots Mondt known as The Gold Dust Trio(possibly where WWF came up with the name of Goldust) started a promotion in the late 20s and are most credited for making wrestling more into a show or entertainment. Instead of matches lasting hours and what not they shortened them and added drama do the matches telling a story rather than actually fighting each other. I think most people believe those three are the ones who drew the blue print for what professional wrestling became later on. By the 1950s when wrestling got really popular again due to TV it was full on fixed and entertainment. Many people in the 50s question the legitimacy of it although I don't think the general population was smartened up until the 80s. I think pro wrestling was just like boxing before the 20s. I think it wasn't until the 20s that it started to really become a show. It was due to the popularity of legit pro wrestling in the early 20th century that high school and college wrestling teams were started. Real wrestling, especially if there are no time limits, and if the opponents are near-equal, means that matches can last for a long, long time. It's not exactly the most interesting to watch when this happens. It's why they instituted time limits-I heard matches in the distant past lasted hours, sometimes, even days! I think the initial intent to fix matches was to shorten the match length (even if and when they had time limits in place, No one wants to see two guys circling around each for a half hour).
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Post by 'Downtown' Mike Brown! on Apr 22, 2011 13:30:58 GMT -5
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMNIT!
*cries*
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Apr 22, 2011 19:53:05 GMT -5
I can't remember ever thinking it was real.
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Post by deadstock on Apr 22, 2011 21:33:11 GMT -5
![](http://www.websimpsons.com/personajes/vecinos-springfield/HelenLovejoy.jpg) It always seemed so over the top that i couldn't buy it as a legitimate sport
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Apr 22, 2011 21:35:37 GMT -5
I've known all my life. My mom and dad figured it out by watching the Hogan/Andre match at WMIII in slow-motion and let me know early on it was fake. I didn't care, I still watched because I liked Roddy Piper, Randy Savage, & Ric Flair.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Apr 23, 2011 3:05:03 GMT -5
I never did buy into storylines. I always assumed they were to make for a better show. On the other hand, i thought the stuff in ring was a legitimate sport until i was 16 or so, around 2000
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