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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jun 20, 2011 22:33:21 GMT -5
I'd hope so, but you never know.
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Post by EzioAuditoreDaFirenze on Jun 20, 2011 22:34:17 GMT -5
Man if Ryder wasn't even ion Superstars then thats really f***ed up :/
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Post by papagiorgio on Jun 20, 2011 23:59:48 GMT -5
wrestlingnewsworld-- WWE Superstars (Airing Thursday on WWE.com): * Gail Kim b. Melina in what may have been a dark match. * Zack Ryder b. Drew McIntyre * WWE Tag Team Champions Michael McGillicutty & David Otunga b. Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov to retain --so it sounds like Kim vs. Melina is the dark match, but I guess we won't know for sure until Thursday. Yeah, and the other report says that... NDQ - The return of the Raw Roulette is being advertised to take place next week on Raw at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. Two episodes of Raw are being taped that night due to WWE’s subsequent tour of Australia. The advertised main event features John Cena vs. The Miz for the WWE Championship. - A match pitting Gail Kim against Melina was taped tonight at the 1st Mariner Arena in Baltimore, Maryland for this week's episode of WWE Superstars. - Zack Ryder beat Drew McIntyre in a dark match prior to tonight's Raw taping. They also don't even mention Santino's match. So uh...yeah, we won't know until Thursday. this is from pwtorch-- Dark Match: Zack Ryder beat Drew McIntyre. Ryder got a nice pop. Apparently he's a full-fledged babyface now. About a five-minute match. Drew dominated, but Ryder came back and hit the Rough Ryder for the win. Next, Josh Mathews and Scott Stanford came out to call Superstars. Superstars SPOILERS 6/23 (1) Gail Kim beat Melina. Not bad. Sloppy in spots. No heat, as most of the crowd was unaware of Melina being a heel. Gail won with a roll-up. (2) WWE tag champions David Otunga & Michael McGillicutty beat Santino & Kozlov. Around 10-15 minutes of solid action. The finish came when Santino was cheapshotted by Otunga and was took Mike's neckbreaker. Santino got a nice pop and the crowd was somewhat invested in it. Good pops for the hot tags.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jun 21, 2011 0:00:47 GMT -5
Awwww man.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 21, 2011 0:01:38 GMT -5
I think I actually feel more sorry for McIntyre. Guy was a big deal on Smackdown not six months ago and was kicking ass in the EC.
Now he can't even get on Superstars.
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Post by adouble on Jun 21, 2011 1:28:30 GMT -5
Well, even if it was a dark match, getting a fairly quick victory over a guy like McIntyre should still be seen as a good sign. It's disappointing he's not on TV, but it's still something.
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Post by mystikz on Jun 21, 2011 2:16:02 GMT -5
that's pretty sad that Ryder and McIntyre aren't even good enough for Superstars now.....
I guess it's barely better than Masters, JTG, Hawkins or Reks who are still doing absolutely nothing.
It's cool though THE USO'S ARE ON SMACKDOWN weekly now while people that don't suck are stuck in hell aka superstars.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jun 21, 2011 5:26:01 GMT -5
that's pretty sad that Ryder and McIntyre aren't even good enough for Superstars now..... I guess it's barely better than Masters, JTG, Hawkins or Reks who are still doing absolutely nothing. It's cool though THE USO'S ARE ON SMACKDOWN weekly now while people that don't suck are stuck in hell aka superstars. To be fair, the Usos are actually ok, it's just they've been given no reason to be cared about by the writers until two weeks ago. SOME POINTS THE PLEASE ME- - Gail wins - Ryder got a nice pop THINGS THAT ANNOY ME- - King of Superstars isn't even on Superstars this week - Drew McIntyre, even if he's losing CAN'T GET ON TO SUPERSTARS EITHER (God damn, whose cereal did Drew piss in? Just as soon as everyone likes the guy, he gets depushed to nothing) - Masters and Reks are doing nothing AGAIN (Both guys are severly underused. This is why I wish WWECW was back. Ryder and Drew would have been in a title feud with Masters by now and Reks would be destroying anything in his path.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jun 21, 2011 5:54:55 GMT -5
Ok so they trust Ryder to pump up a crowd as a face in the opening match of the night and people are still complaining?
I'm a big Ryder fan and I wish him all the success in the World but this is more annoying than when Daniel Bryan lost 2 matches in a row and people were screaming about him getting buried.
They tested him as a face, outside of his home town. It seems to have worked if the live reports are too be believed. Expect to see him either on Superstars or RAW in the next couple of weeks as a face and watch him progress. People want instant success but that's not how real stars are made. This is 100x better in the long run than him jobbing on RAW.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jun 21, 2011 6:11:25 GMT -5
Ok so they trust Ryder to pump up a crowd as a face in the opening match of the night and people are still complaining? I'm a big Ryder fan and I wish him all the success in the World but this is more annoying than when Daniel Bryan lost 2 matches in a row and people were screaming about him getting buried. They tested him as a face, outside of his home town. It seems to have worked if the live reports are too be believed. Expect to see him either on Superstars or RAW in the next couple of weeks as a face and watch him progress. People want instant success but that's not how real stars are made. This is 100x better in the long run than him jobbing on RAW. Good for the live crowds. Not so good for the many more people sitting and watching at home
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Post by turkeysandwich on Jun 21, 2011 9:09:05 GMT -5
It could be that a Dark Match is a bit of a step up from Superstars, in that it could mean that they actually are interested in seeing how he works as a face without it being broadcasted. If he was on Superstars it would be more like he's an afterthought. I always think of dark matches as where they put people that they are really interested in watching in the back because of a gimmick change or new character, but I could be wrong. I think one of the things that Vince doesn't understand about Zack is how he could be popular with so many people even though he is an "arrogant heel" character in the WWEUniverse. Hopefully Ryder getting a pop means that they will allow him to be a face on Raw. I'm trying to be optimistic about this.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jun 21, 2011 9:29:38 GMT -5
Well, looks like the party may be over.
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Post by sybaku on Jun 21, 2011 9:33:28 GMT -5
Ok so they trust Ryder to pump up a crowd as a face in the opening match of the night and people are still complaining? I'm a big Ryder fan and I wish him all the success in the World but this is more annoying than when Daniel Bryan lost 2 matches in a row and people were screaming about him getting buried. They tested him as a face, outside of his home town. It seems to have worked if the live reports are too be believed. Expect to see him either on Superstars or RAW in the next couple of weeks as a face and watch him progress. People want instant success but that's not how real stars are made. This is 100x better in the long run than him jobbing on RAW. You got a point he came out tonight and got a good pop so maybe they will push him now that he has been "tested" also they way they describe it with McIntyre dominating until Ryder hits his finisher sounds like Ryder made a Cena like comeback which is how WWE books faces they want to push... so instead of exploding now I will until next week and see if Ryder gets a shot on Raw
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 9:34:45 GMT -5
I really don't understand the logic of preferring that Ryder be a jobber on Raw than winning on Superstars. Sure, more people would see him, also, more people wouldn't take him seriously as anything more than a jobber.
I don't get it. Then again, I don't get this whole Zack Ryder thing anyways. It's as if the whole internet has lost its mind.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Jun 21, 2011 9:43:28 GMT -5
I thought Zack was a face? I mean he ws always with Cena!
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jun 21, 2011 13:08:55 GMT -5
Who will manage Tyson Kidd this week?
Will it be...
Hillbilly Jim?
Bill Alfonzo?
The ghost of the Grand Wizard?
Jimbo?
Gerald Broflovski?
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Post by jrcz on Jun 21, 2011 13:16:17 GMT -5
Are you kidding me?
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Post by maximilian on Jun 21, 2011 14:54:15 GMT -5
I really don't understand the logic of preferring that Ryder be a jobber on Raw than winning on Superstars. Sure, more people would see him, also, more people wouldn't take him seriously as anything more than a jobber. I don't get it. Then again, I don't get this whole Zack Ryder thing anyways. It's as if the whole internet has lost its mind. It's funny -- when Ryder lost a MitB qualifying match to MVP last year, I was literally the only person complaining. I enjoyed him on ECW and wanted to see him used well on Raw, and he got squashed in like a minute by a guy who clearly didn't care anymore. Now, thanks to the Internet, I'm kind of getting sick of him. I mean, his first few videos were pretty funny and I still enjoy him as a performer, but calm down.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jun 21, 2011 15:18:30 GMT -5
Ok so they trust Ryder to pump up a crowd as a face in the opening match of the night and people are still complaining? I don't know how pushing usually works. I just assumed it was a bad sign to be in a dark match instead of a Superstars match. If it's the other way around, then great. But also it comes down to "I like seeing this guy perform and I can't watch him if he is in a dark match instead of a taped match."
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Post by Magnum Opus on Jun 21, 2011 17:18:45 GMT -5
I really don't understand the logic of preferring that Ryder be a jobber on Raw than winning on Superstars. Sure, more people would see him, also, more people wouldn't take him seriously as anything more than a jobber. He can do both. Evan Bourne has been bouncing back and forth since he got back with out problem. Though right now he has the problem that there's no one on Raw to feud with, except maybe Ziggler, which while a big step up for Ryder would be a big step down the card for Ziggler. It's a shame because LI would have been a great time to bring Zack and an opponent up from Superstars to start feuding on Raw. Now it's going to be MitB before anyone -Zack or not- will get a chance to move up.
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