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Post by crimsonwolf on Jul 25, 2011 22:24:37 GMT -5
What I don't get is, if the person was just going to lose it to Cena, why not have it be Miz? Makes the eventual Cena / Rey match more special, and Miz could whine about how he got screwed over having to defend it the same night. As awesome as the main event was, that definitely would've made a lot more sense.
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Post by thegame415 on Jul 25, 2011 22:24:37 GMT -5
I thought he was going to turn heel. Maybe if he took off his mask.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jul 25, 2011 22:24:47 GMT -5
A Rey heel turn would be even more justified than Christian's was. He was screwed. Plain & simple. If Mysterio had any kind of an edge to him at all, he'd complain to high Heaven. I would. Any sane person would. He was robbed. Triple H put him in an impossible situation. Triple H has been in charge for a week and he's already turning into Teddy Long.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 25, 2011 22:25:20 GMT -5
It's not the real belt, ergo I've got no issue with it.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 25, 2011 22:26:36 GMT -5
Why all this couldn't have waited a week is beyond me. Makes Rey look like an idiot or chump
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 25, 2011 22:26:46 GMT -5
I don't dispute the logic of putting the title back on Cena, but I do think doing it this way was one of the most moronic decisions WWE's made in a long time.
Seriously, at least Christian/Orton had both just wrestled tough matches on the same night, a few days earlier. It was "unfair" in the sense that it could be argued Christian shouldn't have been forced to defend his title so soon after winning it, but the two of them were basically going in evenly matched. Here, there's really no way to spin it to say Rey wasn't wrestling at a disadvantage... and we're supposed to be cheering for his opponent.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 25, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5
What I don't get is, if the person was just going to lose it to Cena, why not have it be Miz? Makes the eventual Cena / Rey match more special, and Miz could whine about how he got screwed over having to defend it the same night. Probably because this angle has been all about Punk trying to open everyone's eyes to Cena being a two-faced glass ceiling. Now he's gotten an unfair victory over WWE's so-called "Ultimate Underdog" on what should have been a celebratory night for him. Hell, Rey cut a squeaky-clean babyface promo talking about bringing the gold back to his family. By beating a top face for the title he'd just fought so hard to win, it brings more shades of gray to Cena's character. If he'd beaten Miz, who cares, because he just took the title from a douchebag heel. This really plays into Punk's accusation that Cena is the status quo, and his presence holds everyone else down.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 25, 2011 22:29:52 GMT -5
What I don't get is, if the person was just going to lose it to Cena, why not have it be Miz? Makes the eventual Cena / Rey match more special, and Miz could whine about how he got screwed over having to defend it the same night. Probably because this angle has been all about Punk trying to open everyone's eyes to Cena being a two-faced glass ceiling. Now he's gotten an unfair victory over WWE's so-called "Ultimate Underdog" on what should have been a celebratory night for him. Hell, Rey cut a squeaky-clean babyface promo talking about bringing the gold back to his family. By beating a top face for the title he'd just fought so hard to win, it brings more shades of gray to Cena's character. If he'd beaten Miz, who cares, because he just took the title from a douchebag heel. This really plays into Punk's accusation that Cena is the status quo, and his presence holds everyone else down. Good observation. The whole champagne celebration for Rey earlier in the night plays into that as well.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 25, 2011 22:35:19 GMT -5
Probably because this angle has been all about Punk trying to open everyone's eyes to Cena being a two-faced glass ceiling. Now he's gotten an unfair victory over WWE's so-called "Ultimate Underdog" on what should have been a celebratory night for him. Hell, Rey cut a squeaky-clean babyface promo talking about bringing the gold back to his family. By beating a top face for the title he'd just fought so hard to win, it brings more shades of gray to Cena's character. If he'd beaten Miz, who cares, because he just took the title from a douchebag heel. This really plays into Punk's accusation that Cena is the status quo, and his presence holds everyone else down. Good observation. The whole champagne celebration for Rey earlier in the night plays into that as well. True. Well that makes me give the WWE another chance on this instead of wondering what the hell.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 25, 2011 22:39:12 GMT -5
For a second I thought you were outraged because Rey Mysterio was a Christian...
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 25, 2011 22:55:06 GMT -5
After tonight they almost have to be turning Cena heel. There's just no excuse for this otherwise. I've run down Rey at various points on here as well, but good grief the guy can't even get a week to enjoy the belt before he has to job it?
What is with the mega reluctance to put the belt on Del Rio already? I could see this storyline working if Del Rio screwed Rey tonight, but the Cena thing is just...ugh. And yes, I know Punk will cut a scathing promo about this whole Cena/Rey thing, but it would be nice for WWE to simply not book it in the first place.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 25, 2011 23:01:19 GMT -5
After tonight they almost have to be turning Cena heel. There's just no excuse for this otherwise. Considering the commentators barely even mentioned that Cena was going in with an obvious advantage, I've got the depressing feeling that the writers didn't think this one through or realize that it'd look unfair. I suspect Rey was probably supposed to beat Miz last week, and it was a late decision to move the tournament final to this week, either for time constraints or because they figured advertising a match for the vacant WWE title would bring in a ratings boost, and no one bothered to realize that this'd mean Rey would have to lose to a fresh Cena after already wrestling earlier in the night.
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Post by rickrudesmullet on Jul 25, 2011 23:37:30 GMT -5
Rey was champion for 90 minutes.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jul 25, 2011 23:51:27 GMT -5
It was the rare moment when a cena win made me smile, what happened after was a delicious treat
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Post by Beartato on Jul 26, 2011 0:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah it was totally unfair, but...it's Rey But in all seriousness it wasn't Rey's first world title win and it wasn't emotional in any way.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jul 26, 2011 0:06:43 GMT -5
For a second I thought you were outraged because Rey Mysterio was a Christian... *Takes out mask* Grisham: It's...it's Christian!
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Post by woowoowoox on Jul 26, 2011 0:09:15 GMT -5
Uh - Rey's been Champion, what, twice? Three if you count tonight...
Not the same thing at all.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jul 26, 2011 0:15:35 GMT -5
Rey getting screwed feels less screwed because we knew the title meant nothing after Punk and we all kinda expected either a MITB cash in or...something. We expected him to lose the belt somehow. Plus, his win wasn't as emotional for the fans because he had won other just-as-important titles.
Christian...man. It was an emotional win with the Edge moment and all. Nobody expected him to lose it the very next Smackdown. It cheapened the very emotional win that fans felt.
That explains the fan's lack of a reaction. They loved Christian and were very emotionally involved with him winning the title. Not so with Rey.
Kayfabe wise though? Rey got mega screwed.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jul 26, 2011 2:45:32 GMT -5
Uh - Rey's been Champion, what, twice? Three if you count tonight... Not the same thing at all. Actually that's more or less my stance on it. Yeah, I feel bad for Rey, but it's not like he's never won the big one. In fact, he won his first world title five years ago, and his second one last year, so the odds of him being world champion again are far from slim, and even if they were, at least the reigns he did have were fairly healthy. Christian, on the other hand, won his first heavyweight championship ever five days before losing it. There were no early reigns he could look back to, his inaugural title, a title seventeen years in the making, a title with as much emotion behind it as his, was essentially put up for a vote by the WWE Universe with the candidates being warm tap water, warm piss, and chilled Coke Classic. This is without taking into account the fact that the belt's interim and Punk (since he's seemingly signed a new contract) can be recognized as the official WWE champion.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jul 26, 2011 7:39:30 GMT -5
Based on Mizs promo, I'm going to assume this will be mentioned next week.
The commentators kept pointing out Cena was fresh. Anyone with common sense would have said "No hang on a second..."
Basically, all that has kinda happened is H has proved Punk right. Nothing changed when HHH took over, status quo was simply restored. Sure he met some of Punks demands to please him (Bringing Ryder to the main show... in a throw away match against a non wrestler) but at the end of the day he threw the title back on Cena as soon as possible.
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