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Post by turkeysandwich on Jul 22, 2011 8:14:27 GMT -5
I'd like for them to drop Cole from Smackdown for a couple of months, and have Josh work with Booker as the face color guy and Wade as the heel color commentator. I've always liked him commentary. But only do it for a couple of months to set up a feud with someone by running them down on commentary, maybe a face-turned Sheamus?
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jul 22, 2011 10:14:29 GMT -5
Give him William Regal as a manager, his coat, and his rose back, and let him play the slimey Brit character. It's cliched, but it does generate heat. He'd be a solid mid-carder. i dunno about that. he's already tried the "putting America down" promo a couple times to lukewarm heat. i say no, or at least not like it was b/c the angle he was involved in was a unique spin on a "hostile takeover" and he had the natural ability to talk, look, and act like a leader. hands down the best foil for Cena...probably only 2nd best to Edge, who never could get the fans to straight up boo him completely. this is a common occurrence i've said a few times, they never capitalize on something when it needs to be done. Sheamus could be the next big deal as far as heavyweights, Punk is given his due a couple years too late, Miz could be built as a better version of the coward heel (who is proof that booking dictates viewpoint), Dolph Ziggler is freaking READY to be main event, Cody Rhodes is almost there he just needs that one defining feud, but was ready to shoot up the ladder after 'Mania.....it's like they get scared, go back to being safe.........i dunno it's like WWE is afraid of momentum unless it's forced and contrived later on. i have no doubts all of the people i listed (Barrett by default included) will be or continue to be Main Event, but it's going to take some magical booking for them to be seen as legit, and in Wade Barrett's case, he reminds me a lot of a british version of Ken Anderson...he can work the stick, can work a crowd (when he's allowed to), but is lacking in the ring, tho Barrett's finisher is even worse than Cena's. unlike Anderson, Wade doesn't come off as a total douche. in short, no. they had lightning in a bottle with him, something really special for about 3-4 months that could have easily transcended into something even bigger....you can't recapture a raw response like that. even if he were to feud with Cena again, it just wouldn't click like it did then due to the wealth of (one of a kind) story he was given and how well he played it off. and for gods sake keep the jacket and hokey rose off of him.
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Post by jadison on Jul 22, 2011 11:12:32 GMT -5
Wade Barrett is proof positive that that whole 'You can make it in the WWE if you're talented enough and work your ass off' spiel is a bunch of horses***. He's been on the main roster for 1 year.
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Post by zeez on Jul 22, 2011 11:32:37 GMT -5
Anybody can be built back up. Ain't that right Mark Henry?
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Post by 4real on Jul 22, 2011 11:33:48 GMT -5
Barrett is almost lost in the shuffle on Smackdown! I feel especially since it's full to the brim with heels and Christian, Sheamus, Mark Henry and arguarbly Cody Rhodes are higher priorities than he is.
I can't imagine him ever being as over as he was last year but you never know.
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 22, 2011 11:54:35 GMT -5
Why would he want his heat back now it's Summer maybe in the Winter late Fall maybe.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 22, 2011 12:07:29 GMT -5
Just a clarification on what I meant also...I know he'll get back to the main event level sooner than later, but I mean the level of reaction he gets from the crowd. They've gone from lynching him in the middle of the ring last summer to not being sure how to react or just sitting on their hands these days. I'd say put him in a feud with Orton, but we know how that would end. He just needs a big feud. Maybe he and Sheamus can put on a good summer time feud for a few months and re-elevate each other.
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Post by foreveryoung on Jul 22, 2011 12:28:53 GMT -5
I dont understand why it was taken from him anyways by the idiots in the back. His first year called up to the WWE and within less the a year he was the hottest heel in the business.
That takes some talent
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Post by may19th on Jul 22, 2011 12:52:29 GMT -5
Where's all this 100% face reaction for Cena bull come from? That's revisionist thinking. The usual smark/grown ups were always pro-Nexus/Wade.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jul 22, 2011 12:56:09 GMT -5
Wade Barrett is proof positive that that whole 'You can make it in the WWE if you're talented enough and work your ass off' spiel is a bunch of horses***. He's been on the main roster for 1 year. I don't give if he's been on the roster for twenty years what they did to him was f***ing stupid and wasteful.
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Post by molson5 on Jul 22, 2011 13:06:20 GMT -5
Considering he hasn't even been around for two years...yeah. Most likely. If anything he shouldn't have been in the Nexus angle in the first place since it created unrealistic expectations. He shouldn't have been world champion in his first few months on the main roster. Neither should Sheamus but thats another story. Why have someone peak that early in their career? What the hell are they supposed to do after? Right - if they kept Barrett on top since he debuted (as I guess people claim to want), then that'd be a step down for Miz, Sheamus, and now CM punk as well. He ran his course on top, and I think feuding over midcard titles on Smackdown is just the right spot for him at this point in his career. The WWE is getting into the habit of pushing guys to the moon immediately, and there's just nowhere to go from there.
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Post by potpie on Jul 22, 2011 13:12:46 GMT -5
They need to just let Barrett run amok like they're (kinda) doing with Punk. No doubt the guy is hella-talented, and as far as wrestling skills goes, they've had no problem putting over people with far less. I also don't understand this excuse of "he had his chance already"- what, like people only get one? My goodness, what would Shawn Michaels have done after the Rockers got fired (on the first night, if I remember correct), or Cody Rhodes, who needed years to turn from generic boring wrestler's kid to something special (see also Orton)? How many times has Kane overcome crap story lines to prevail, still employed?
You could make an argument that Barrett was a victim of micromanaging. "Sure he's good, but he hadn't paid his dues"- what does that even mean? If a person is doing well (getting crowd reactions at all), why reboot the storyline to accommodate someone else who's already over? Even so, I think Barrett is something special. He's one of the few big guys who can talk (be witty and evil-sounding) and isn't fat and or broken to pieces. He's also fairly young still. I think he has an immense future, but like Drew, it's awfully hard for anyone to showcase these talents when you're barely on television (see half of Divas division, any wrestler under 250lbs not named Mysterio or Sin Cara, etc).
Feud with Sheamus? Sure. Why not? (Sheamus is face now, right?). Why not feud with DB- there's history there. Hell, wanna turn him face in one segment? Have him put Otugnuts and McGilly through a table (although this is just my personal fantasy). I agree with the sentiment to change his finisher. He could turn it into a sitdown powerbomb or something. Call it Wasteland 2, and have him break it out on somebody big.
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Post by zing on Jul 22, 2011 13:26:54 GMT -5
They need to just let Barrett run amok like they're (kinda) doing with Punk. No doubt the guy is hella-talented, and as far as wrestling skills goes, they've had no problem putting over people with far less. I also don't understand this excuse of "he had his chance already"- what, like people only get one? My goodness, what would Shawn Michaels have done after the Rockers got fired (on the first night, if I remember correct), or Cody Rhodes, who needed years to turn from generic boring wrestler's kid to something special (see also Orton)? How many times has Kane overcome crap story lines to prevail, still employed? You could make an argument that Barrett was a victim of micromanaging. "Sure he's good, but he hadn't paid his dues"- what does that even mean? If a person is doing well (getting crowd reactions at all), why reboot the storyline to accommodate someone else who's already over? Even so, I think Barrett is something special. He's one of the few big guys who can talk (be witty and evil-sounding) and isn't fat and or broken to pieces. He's also fairly young still. I think he has an immense future, but like Drew, it's awfully hard for anyone to showcase these talents when you're barely on television (see half of Divas division, any wrestler under 250lbs not named Mysterio or Sin Cara, etc). Feud with Sheamus? Sure. Why not? (Sheamus is face now, right?). Why not feud with DB- there's history there. Hell, wanna turn him face in one segment? Have him put Otugnuts and McGilly through a table (although this is just my personal fantasy). I agree with the sentiment to change his finisher. He could turn it into a sitdown powerbomb or something. Call it Wasteland 2, and have him break it out on somebody big. As usual, I agree with potpie (though I like the Wasteland) Barrett is what got me watching Raw again after years and years away. He's got what it takes to be the defining heel of a generation. But right now, the WWE can't book for shit outside a single main event feud. Like so many other talented guys, they need to give him something to do.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jul 22, 2011 19:20:41 GMT -5
Where's all this 100% face reaction for Cena bull come from? That's revisionist thinking. The usual smark/grown ups were always pro-Nexus/Wade. well it was still more than his usual 50/50 that he normally gets. as for Wade i never really liked the Wasteland,i know the idea is that he slams folk to the mat from that height but it always seems like to me he's just dropping them (except occasionally when he does it to smaller/lighter wrestlers). just not devastating enough a finisher for someone his size i'd say
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 19:33:45 GMT -5
I honestly thought they'd give him the MITB because he obviously needed the win the most. I don't know about getting his heat back....The guy just seems to be missing something to me.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 22, 2011 19:40:17 GMT -5
Needs a pumphandle slam, that always pops the crowd.
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Post by bob on Jul 22, 2011 19:44:04 GMT -5
Was there ever any word on why the pulled the rug out from under him? I never saw any posts here about him having attitude problems or whatnot. . Kevin Dunn said he wasn't over ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) however, it might be possible for Wade to get some heat back with months of really strong booking
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 22, 2011 19:56:11 GMT -5
Where's all this 100% face reaction for Cena bull come from? That's revisionist thinking. The usual smark/grown ups were always pro-Nexus/Wade. Because that's how it happened. Did you not see the segments between Hell in a Cell and Survivor Series where the crowd were begging Cena to take Barrett out? The "Never Give Up" chant? To say otherwise, that is revisionist. And you may notice people said "almost" 100%.
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Post by daymon on Jul 22, 2011 20:53:31 GMT -5
Give him William Regal as a manager, his coat, and his rose back, and let him play the slimey Brit character. It's cliched, but it does generate heat. He'd be a solid mid-carder. this
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jul 22, 2011 21:00:54 GMT -5
Was there ever any word on why the pulled the rug out from under him? I never saw any posts here about him having attitude problems or whatnot. . Kevin Dunn said he wasn't over ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) however, it might be possible for Wade to get some heat back with months of really strong booking And when did this rumor start up? I've only ever heard of Dunn screwing over Sheamus, and even that didn't sound legit.
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