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Post by Black Swagger on Jul 8, 2011 12:06:33 GMT -5
Jack Evans from the Heavens!!!!! I enjoyed watching his AAA stuff when he was teaming with Teddy Hart. Dude can fly! He would be a nice addition to the X-Division. I would love to see him and Shima Xion (Zema Ion) have a one on one match.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 8, 2011 13:08:14 GMT -5
Jack has to be the whitest man in all of Mexico. But I'm happy to see his flippy flips and sick bumps back on tv again.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 8, 2011 18:58:00 GMT -5
Jack Evans has always been off and on over the years but recently he has been at his best. He has become a huge star down in Mexico in AAA even getting on their video game. I've never understood why TNA never singed him to a long term contract to be in the X Division. People say he can't work or sell but I think that is just a prejudice against him due to him doing all the flipping moves. Just because he doesn't oversell everything like some guys doesn't mean he can't sell. That is my biggest problem with people when they talk about how lucha libre is all spots. It really isn't. Just because they don't act like they get killed after every punch doesn't mean they don't know how to sell.  |
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Jul 8, 2011 20:49:28 GMT -5
What I saw on Impact, the guy was freaking awesome. Not everyone needs to be a master psychologist of the ring to be entertaining.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jul 8, 2011 20:55:55 GMT -5
So... this is Jack Evans.
I'll definitely say that he knows how to flip. He certainly looked pretty damn smooth in the ring. And really Sorenson and Nese were no slouches themselves either. I'd have been fine with any one of them winning that bout.
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Post by corndog on Jul 8, 2011 21:06:08 GMT -5
So... this is Jack Evans. I'll definitely say that he knows how to flip. He certainly looked pretty damn smooth in the ring. And really Sorenson and Nese were no slouches themselves either. I'd have been fine with any one of them winning that bout. He did look good, but I agree the other two guys looked very solid as well. I really enjoy this tournament and it shows there is talent in the indies, and TNA has a chance to utilize it. Also TNA may have an advantage over WWE by allowing more freedom for guys like Jack Evans and not needing to neuter or change guys characters because of being complete control freaks. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 8, 2011 21:08:59 GMT -5
Also TNA may have an advantage over WWE by allowing more freedom for guys like Jack Evans and not needing to neuter or change guys characters because of being complete control freaks. You're sure about that? |
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Post by slasher911 on Jul 8, 2011 22:33:58 GMT -5
I'll watch anything Jack Evans is in. Evans/Hart vs. MCMG would be awesome.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 8, 2011 23:30:24 GMT -5
Also TNA may have an advantage over WWE by allowing more freedom for guys like Jack Evans and not needing to neuter or change guys characters because of being complete control freaks. You're sure about that? There's a WWE-style. |
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Post by donners on Jul 9, 2011 3:26:01 GMT -5
Hm, I wasn't that impressed. Flip, flip, mug for camera, flip, flip, pose...
He pulled it all off pretty cleanly, but it didn't feel much like wrestling. It was more like a one-man gymnastic exhibition while the other two actually tried to wrestle.
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Post by Black Swagger on Jul 9, 2011 7:14:39 GMT -5
Also TNA may have an advantage over WWE by allowing more freedom for guys like Jack Evans and not needing to neuter or change guys characters because of being complete control freaks. You're sure about that? I was gonna say the same thing! TNA took an awesome guy like Shima Xion and forced him to change his name to Zema Ion........because you know, the name change was necessary  Shima himself told me that Russo came up with that name for him. Sounds like a new flavor of Zima malt beverage to me. Interestingly enough, out of all the guys fighting for the contract, he was the only one who had to change his name......I think I know who is winning. |
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Post by smokey1980 on Jul 9, 2011 8:52:05 GMT -5
I had never seen him before, really enjoyed his match. Flippy guys have their place and can be very entertaining, if they're good at it, and he's clearly good at it.
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Post by vm88 on Jul 9, 2011 9:36:05 GMT -5
I've never understood why TNA never singed him to a long term contract to be in the X Division. I agree, he could've been a major player when TNA was building the X-Division. Glad he's getting a chance now, and I look forward to seeing him in the 4-Way match on Sunday. |
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Post by generationxero on Jul 9, 2011 13:33:44 GMT -5
I remember once seeing him sell a piledriver by going completely limp. It looked scary as hell. No one sells better than Jack. |
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Post by toodarkmark on Jul 9, 2011 15:17:36 GMT -5
If wrestling had gone the way of Jack Evans, and TNA became an X-Division promotion, far more people would be watching.
You know what my non wrestling friends enjoy watching? Jack Evans. You know what they don't enjoy watching? Big muscleheads with tattoos who are Mark Jindrak clones.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 9, 2011 15:50:55 GMT -5
If wrestling had gone the way of Jack Evans, and TNA became an X-Division promotion, far more people would be watching. You know what my non wrestling friends enjoy watching? Jack Evans. You know what they don't enjoy watching? Big muscleheads with tattoos who are Mark Jindrak clones. Now wait a minute Jindrak could fly! ;D I think Evans reminds of what the X Division used to accomplish. These matchs used to be unreal, especially the first few on 2002. |
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Post by slasher911 on Jul 9, 2011 15:54:03 GMT -5
I remember once seeing him sell a piledriver by going completely limp. It looked scary as hell. No one sells better than Jack. Evans and Rob Van Dam are the two best IMO. Both of them take bumps that make me cringe. They could put over any move as a finisher. |
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Post by smokey1980 on Jul 9, 2011 18:46:45 GMT -5
If wrestling had gone the way of Jack Evans, and TNA became an X-Division promotion, far more people would be watching. You know what my non wrestling friends enjoy watching? Jack Evans. You know what they don't enjoy watching? Big muscleheads with tattoos who are Mark Jindrak clones. This, for sure. I watch with my non-wrestling fan girlfriend (put aside the fact that I make my girlfriend watch Impact, for a second  ). She loves Sin Cara matches when I watch WWE, and she really liked the Evans match on Impact. I think it's because the "it's fake!" folks really appreciate the skill and athleticism involved with the high flyers, and plus, it just looks cool. She likes figure skating and gymnastics, so she gives big props to the guys who do big spots. |
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Post by metylerca on Jul 9, 2011 19:03:20 GMT -5
I liked the match on Impact, he didn't overkill it on the flips or lack of selling. But I keep on going back to the ROH Final Battle 2009 "Match" with Teddy Hart as my own *Exhibit A* on what I'm used to seeing from him. He has his moments, but he's more of a spot oriented Jeff Hardy than a Ricky Morton or Shawn Michaels.
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Post by TMK on Jul 10, 2011 9:20:29 GMT -5
 I don't mind Jack Evans in small doses but come on, he could have at least bought a new pair of boots! |
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Shima himself told me that Russo came up with that name for him. Sounds like a new flavor of Zima malt beverage to me. Interestingly enough, out of all the guys fighting for the contract, he was the only one who had to change his name......I think I know who is winning.
). She loves Sin Cara matches when I watch WWE, and she really liked the Evans match on Impact. I think it's because the "it's fake!" folks really appreciate the skill and athleticism involved with the high flyers, and plus, it just looks cool. She likes figure skating and gymnastics, so she gives big props to the guys who do big spots.
