Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 28, 2011 3:43:06 GMT -5
What has she really done to be knockout champ and half of the knockout tag champs?
It's basically been "Karen and Madison come hell or high water blatantly cheat for her to win."
How can I take her seriously if she has to have them blatantly interfering? Awesome Kong didn't have to rely on Raisha Saied every single time when she had to put up or shut up.
Gail has gone from fighting Awesome Kong on her own to relying on her Thug sidekicks.
Now that Karen's gone, it's gonna mean Madison will have everybody jumping through hoops to protect her partner.
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Paco
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Post by Paco on Dec 28, 2011 3:56:06 GMT -5
We're supposed to take Gail seriously? She's a heel.
Even uber-bad ass Stone Cold became the Champ that needed help (cheating or interference) to win once he turned in 2001. It happens all the time.
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Steveweiser
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 28, 2011 4:06:27 GMT -5
Pure heel, she's being protected as a major investment... {Spoiler}You'll see it to extreme levels tomorrow night against Mickie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 12:34:36 GMT -5
Pure heel, she's being protected as a major investment... {Spoiler}You'll see it to extreme levels tomorrow night against Mickie. Oh yeah. I heard that {Spoiler}Madison will use some kind of voodoo ritual to curse Mickie with dysentery in the middle of the match, causing her to rush to the restroom and get counted out.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Dec 28, 2011 12:57:06 GMT -5
Pure heel, she's being protected as a major investment... {Spoiler}You'll see it to extreme levels tomorrow night against Mickie. {Spoiler}I'm actually rather interested to see this episode of Impact. Because the so called 'masked woman' might not be Madison at all.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 28, 2011 14:45:05 GMT -5
Pure heel, she's being protected as a major investment... {Spoiler}You'll see it to extreme levels tomorrow night against Mickie. {Spoiler}I'm actually rather interested to see this episode of Impact. Because the so called 'masked woman' might not be Madison at all. {Spoiler}It's Melina.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 14:55:18 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I'm actually rather interested to see this episode of Impact. Because the so called 'masked woman' might not be Madison at all. {Spoiler}It's Melina. {Spoiler}In all seriousness, how would anyone think this? How is it not Madison?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 28, 2011 15:19:17 GMT -5
{Spoiler}In all seriousness, how would anyone think this? How is it not Madison? {Spoiler}SWERVE~!
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BigAl
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Post by BigAl on Dec 28, 2011 16:03:09 GMT -5
Madison was apaper champ as well, her so called longest title reign consist of her not defending it, to her winnign via cheating, or through Tara's interference, to beating former KO in under 1 minute. Heels usually are paper champs (see Winter for example)
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Post by Been burned too many times on Dec 28, 2011 16:31:52 GMT -5
Gail was a face when she went against Kong. Faces usually overcome the odds, the feud was at its core David vs Goliath.
Now that she's a heel it's not uncommon that she'd get help.
Madison got help from Tara. Winter got help from Angelina. Angelina(BP) got help from Velvet and Madison. Miz got help from Riley. Vickie helps/helped Dolph/Swagger/Edge. JBL had an entire cabinet.
It's classic heel stuff. Though certain types of heels like sadistic and monster heels usually win without help.
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Dec 28, 2011 16:37:02 GMT -5
She'll go to the papers if she has to.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Dec 28, 2011 17:33:30 GMT -5
Madison was apaper champ as well, her so called longest title reign consist of her not defending it, to her winnign via cheating, or through Tara's interference, to beating former KO in under 1 minute. Heels usually are paper champs (see Winter for example) Exactly the only non-paper KO champ they've had in about two years now has been Mickie James, and even Mickie's non-paper champion status during her reign(s) is debatable.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Dec 28, 2011 17:35:39 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I'm actually rather interested to see this episode of Impact. Because the so called 'masked woman' might not be Madison at all. {Spoiler}It's Melina. {Spoiler}so I've heard/read
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Big L
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Post by Big L on Dec 28, 2011 17:48:16 GMT -5
She'll go to the papers if she has to.
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Post by NOwave on Dec 29, 2011 10:38:36 GMT -5
Pro Wrestling #101: There are GOOD GUYS and BAD GUYS. The GOOD GUYS win matches based on their ability, effort, All-Americanness, Prayers, training, vitamins, etc. They all, however, will eventually lose matches to BAD GUYS who cheat.
When BAD GUYS win championships, they do all kinds of nefarious things to protect the title, including surrounding themselves with cronies(eg. the 4 Horsemen) who will cheat for them.
Eventually, after a series of (hopefully well-attended) matches with various stipulations, comes the Blow-Off, when the GOOD GUY overcomes the odds to heroically beat the BAD GUY and reclaim the title. If all goes well, the fans all go home happy and can't wait to buy tickets for the next feud with a new BAD GUY. Repeat cycle.
Amazingly, promoters seem to forget those basic things sometimes, but at least Gail's current title reign seems to be following the standard trajectory.
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Post by azrael502 on Dec 29, 2011 15:16:56 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I'm actually rather interested to see this episode of Impact. Because the so called 'masked woman' might not be Madison at all. {Spoiler}It's Melina. Nah It's Chavo
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 15:33:20 GMT -5
{Spoiler}so I've heard/read {Spoiler}Why, because she doesn't work for WWE anymore?
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Dec 29, 2011 15:42:21 GMT -5
{Spoiler}so I've heard/read {Spoiler}Why, because she doesn't work for WWE anymore? {Spoiler}Nah because that is who the live audience, and the newz site correspondents in attendance, thought was under the hood for some reason.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 29, 2011 18:38:41 GMT -5
{Spoiler}so I've heard/read {Spoiler}Why, because she doesn't work for WWE anymore? {Spoiler}No, because the figure went 10 seconds without having sex with someone
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Dec 29, 2011 18:40:11 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Why, because she doesn't work for WWE anymore? {Spoiler}No, because the figure went 10 seconds without having sex with someone {Spoiler}mean, but I lol'ed thanks
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