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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 19:04:15 GMT -5
Why the hell could they include this but not Jericho?. Because WWE said no. How many times must this be said? They said no before he was back on TV. He's on WWE TV working for them again. I understand why Jericho couldn't be in the game at launch time. Also, fine, let's say they can't use Jericho. They could have given us an updated CM Punk model with his Best in the World T-Shirt and Money in the Bank ring attire. Nope. Boring ass Kane.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 26, 2012 19:14:19 GMT -5
Because WWE said no. How many times must this be said? They said no before he was back on TV. He's on WWE TV working for them again. I understand why Jericho couldn't be in the game at launch time. Also, fine, let's say they can't use Jericho. They could have given us an updated CM Punk model with his Best in the World T-Shirt and Money in the Bank ring attire. Nope. Boring ass Kane. Yeah, my problem isn't even so much that it is kane, but it's old school kane again. The same kane that has come in game so many times before.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 19:15:53 GMT -5
They said no before he was back on TV. He's on WWE TV working for them again. I understand why Jericho couldn't be in the game at launch time. Also, fine, let's say they can't use Jericho. They could have given us an updated CM Punk model with his Best in the World T-Shirt and Money in the Bank ring attire. Nope. Boring ass Kane. Yeah, my problem isn't even so much that it is kane, but it's old school kane again. The same kane that has come in game so many times before. Exactly. I would have been thrilled with a 2000-2002 Kane. This one is played out.
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Post by keezy on Jan 26, 2012 19:23:14 GMT -5
Yeah, my problem isn't even so much that it is kane, but it's old school kane again. The same kane that has come in game so many times before. Exactly. I would have been thrilled with a 2000-2002 Kane. This one is played out. They could have at least used the Smackdown Vs Raw 2009 Kane since it's closer to his current one. Also, I'm guessing the DLC Kane has that silly blowup doll landing on it's head Chokeslam they constantly give Kane. Kharma and Nash's chokeslams work for him but I like playing online with content off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 19:29:01 GMT -5
About what I expected out of the Kane thing. Well, another retro character for me to get no use out of I guess - be nice if they at least give him the proper music and Titantron, but wouldn't hold my breath after the stupidity of having Edge and Christian's old ones in 2011 then taking them out when they actually made classic versions of them available.
Half of those fixes in the notes seem like there's potential for something to go wrong with them, but we'll see how that goes I guess. Also, my personal pick for the make-good would've been if not Jericho then Cena's current look. Beats the hell out of having a useless version of Kane.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 19:40:22 GMT -5
About what I expected out of the Kane thing. Well, another retro character for me to get no use out of I guess - be nice if they at least give him the proper music and Titantron, but wouldn't hold my breath after the stupidity of having Edge and Christian's old ones in 2011 then taking them out when they actually made classic versions of them available. Half of those fixes in the notes seem like there's potential for something to go wrong with them, but we'll see how that goes I guess. Also, my personal pick for the make-good would've been if not Jericho then Cena's current look. Beats the hell out of having a useless version of Kane. It would also require a bit of effort on their part, and we all know that effort is their Kryptonite.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 26, 2012 19:53:03 GMT -5
I would've accepted "Rise Above Hate" Cena as the make-good DLC, not Masked Kane.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 19:58:50 GMT -5
It's funny how I read the list of fixes and just how difficult it is to believe the issues they claim to be, really are fixed.
Anyways, not even touching retro Kane, but if we TRULY can make complete CAW brands and edit CAW moves sets that's all I could really ask for. That's actually really good of them to do something about those glaring issues.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 19:59:20 GMT -5
I'm just glad that this forum isn't filled with a bunch of THQ apologists. We pay $60 a year for these damn games, we have the right to be frustrated with their (lack of) efforts. There are other forums where you're pretty much raked over the coals for not lapping up everything Ledesma and Stephenson say and being nothing but appreciative.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 20:06:20 GMT -5
I'm just glad that this forum isn't filled with a bunch of THQ apologists. We pay $60 a year for these damn games, we have the right to be frustrated with their (lack of) efforts. There are other forums where you're pretty much raked over the coals for not lapping up everything Ledesma and Stephenson say and being nothing but appreciative. At the same time, though, there are plenty of places where daring to say you actually like the game constitutes being lynched.
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Post by jagilki on Jan 26, 2012 20:09:59 GMT -5
I don't consider myself an "apologist" but I will state that I don't think this years version is horrible. I won't go as far as to call it a "beta" like some people do.
But it does have problems.
Scratch that. I would of considered myself an "apologist" until on CAWS I read where Marcus was being asked about fixing transparency.
AFTER BEING TOLD that it would be fixed in a patch for 2011, only for it not to be. AFTER BEING TOLD that it would be fixed in WWE '12 only for it not to be, he came out and said it would NEVER be "fixed". It wasn't a glitch for there to be no transparency, it was taken out on purpose because in SVR 2010 somebody made a nude CAW and uploaded it.
I don't care about transparency. I care that they LIED, bold faced LIED for 2-3 years about it, instead of just manning up and saying that transparency was taken out.
That soured me on THQ.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 26, 2012 20:13:11 GMT -5
I would've accepted "Rise Above Hate" Cena as the make-good DLC, not Masked Kane. Same here, I'd use "Rise Above Hate" Cena, and I'd also use 2000-2003 or new Kane. The old school Kane, won't get use from me. This is very underwhelming "Make Good" DLC. Yay, we get something that was in last year's game. Hell if they wanted to release something from last year, give us Biker Taker with his actual entrance. I love WWE12, but I really wish Rockstar or EA had the license.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 20:18:26 GMT -5
I'm just glad that this forum isn't filled with a bunch of THQ apologists. We pay $60 a year for these damn games, we have the right to be frustrated with their (lack of) efforts. There are other forums where you're pretty much raked over the coals for not lapping up everything Ledesma and Stephenson say and being nothing but appreciative. At the same time, though, there are plenty of places where daring to say you actually like the game constitutes being lynched. That's true as well. For the record, I actually love the core gameplay of this year's game. I think they did a remarkable job with overall design, and it plays mostly great. My issue is with the way Ledesma and his cronies handle situations like this one.
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Post by sonofblaine on Jan 26, 2012 21:28:54 GMT -5
" However, match card creation still requires players to use Superstars with at least one of each crowd reaction setting (‘boo’ and ‘cheer’) to properly book matches."
I've never had an issue with booking a match with face vs face or heel vs heel. Are they changing this? Or do they mean you need at least one of either per "card" not match, at which case, it's not really an issue.
Personally, I was hoping for 3 things from the Update. Better servers, No restrictions on number of In Game Superstars per Roster, and the Ability to rewrite the whole card before you play matches. Assuming the servers DO get better, I guess 2 out of 3 isn't too bad.
And it's a broken record around here, but yeah.... the choice of "Make Good" Kane is very disappointing. But I see their reasoning of not having the timeframe. Just so long as we maybe get a new one in a future DLC pack.
I haven't played one of these games since 07 (It pissed me off too much to want to get the next one). How often do they seem to put out new DLC packs? And how far into the year. I'm sure they won't give us new stuff until the new game.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 26, 2012 21:29:52 GMT -5
How hard would it really be to make an official new Kane? There's countless CAWs of him and it wouldn't be THAT hard to put his music/tron in.
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Post by Krimzon on Jan 26, 2012 21:32:15 GMT -5
We got a "make good" that required the least amount of work possible. Am I really surprised? Not in the slightest.
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Post by ace r0ckolla on Jan 26, 2012 21:35:09 GMT -5
I would like to know what "various universe mode bug fixes" means. Which bugs out of the ones that aren't already listed? But I will say, I'm glad the injuries are being toned down, really annoying losing someone every couple weeks.
Would have loved for the opportunity to edit the whole card ahead of time.. but I'm sure that was saved for a new feature to use as a selling point on WWE '13..
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 21:43:01 GMT -5
I'm concerned with the fixes they've made to custom soundtracks. I hope they didn't finally fix the volume glitch now that I've manually lowered the volume of all my custom themes.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 26, 2012 21:45:51 GMT -5
Just so long as we maybe get a new one in a future DLC pack. This is it. The final DLC pack for WWE 12. They go full on to working on WWE 13.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2012 21:51:17 GMT -5
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