lodirulz
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Post by lodirulz on Mar 3, 2012 16:54:46 GMT -5
Some role teasing going on I see. Looking back at everything, I might have an idea of some people's roles, but there's two problems with that:
1. A heel doesn't equal Mafia. Just because a wrestler like Ziggler, or maybe Y2J has an attitude, doesn't mean that they are out to kill us.
2. These hints some a little TOO easy. It could be The Mafia lying about their role to get our attention off of someone who's on a serious tear.
Really, this was just another post to get some information out there.
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Post by stinger on Mar 3, 2012 17:03:47 GMT -5
In a mafia game, not lynching FAVORS THE MAFIA. Fact. Also, certain roles must vote a certain way, therefore... Vote : Stinger4christ I dont expect anyone to join me on this, but if they do, we know what they are. Big mistake. I am the best in the world at finding Mafia members. You pitiful plebs will rue the day you lynch me. No one else will be able to save you.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Mar 3, 2012 17:09:10 GMT -5
Some role teasing going on I see. Looking back at everything, I might have an idea of some people's roles, but there's two problems with that: 1. A heel doesn't equal Mafia. Just because a wrestler like Ziggler, or maybe Y2J has an attitude, doesn't mean that they are out to kill us. 2. These hints some a little TOO easy. It could be The Mafia lying about their role to get our attention off of someone who's on a serious tear. Really, this was just another post to get some information out there. Agreed on both counts. I'm not lynching anyone because of the character their post hint at. If its a lie, then I'm helping them out (whatever the purpose may have been). If its the truth, it doesn't necessarily mean they're Mafia.
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Post by J on Mar 3, 2012 17:54:23 GMT -5
Yes, I do agree that we need to take our time in the day phase. It's not necessarily the end of the world if we end up no voting at the end of it. We need to make sure we have as much info as possible though before we go randomly lynching someone. Especially seeing as how there are quite a few people that haven't posted yet. Someone who hasn't posted yet could very well trip up, we just need to give them the chance to. So yes, I say let's bide our time.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 3, 2012 19:13:14 GMT -5
Stinger4christ, would you care to respond to the vote in depth? Just saying something in character isn't exactly helpful to the town.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Mar 3, 2012 20:59:17 GMT -5
No Lynch (8): Street Spartan, The Big Bad Brad, Notorious, Connor Mackenzie, stinger4christ, Sticky (Gus Richlen), MattJ, Jack Barnes,
Not Voting: Sweet n' Sour Pegasuswarrior The Original Wolf Hurricane™ J Junkenstein CageKing: M.C.O.D.: Snorpuff? Bergman Brainbustaaah! Latino Meat Michael "Crash" Hayden The_Punisher FunkRulz Hawkeye Jefferson Winger Jonathan Michaels Is Anti Cena
With 22 of you, 12 votes are needed for a lynch or else there is NO lynch. Deadline is Monday, March 5, after RAW HST.
Remember, you all have the option to FOS: Superstar, Vote: Superstar, Unvote, Vote: No Lynch.
Your vote does not count, unless in the proper format. (At least bolded)
DO NOT edit your posts. I will PM anyone who does. If you need to edit, create a NEW post that says EBWOP (edited by way of post): (Your Edit)
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Mar 3, 2012 21:46:05 GMT -5
GM
If we hit 12 votes for NO LYNCH, does that automatically end the day phase?
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Post by TOO SWEET on Mar 3, 2012 22:04:59 GMT -5
GM If we hit 12 votes for NO LYNCH, does that automatically end the day phase? Good question. If so, when we reach eleven, I'll unvote, and would suggest some others do the same. Because the day phase is the only time we're gonna get answers, so the longer we could prolong it, the better. Especially since we're still waiting on stinger4christ and Connor to respond to the accusations against them by SNS and Hayden.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Mar 3, 2012 22:10:26 GMT -5
Pretty sure I already responded to the accusations unless I missed one. If so I apologize.
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Post by stinger on Mar 3, 2012 22:29:09 GMT -5
My response is that there is no evidence at all that I am Mafia. Jonathan Michaels just threw my name out to try to figure out who the jester is. Until someone offers something other than pure speculation, there is nothing else for me to respond to.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 4, 2012 0:48:15 GMT -5
Again, no one else will say it, so I will. Concerning the No Lynch, we're not going to just be sitting ducks for Mafia night kill, but some have failed to realize the possibility of a 3rd party kill, which is ANOTHER member down from Town possibly.
The way I read into "Brain Chop" death is that Great Khali could be on the loose as a serial killer. It seems to be a random incident. It could be our clue to realize that it's not just mafia and town at work here. And we're told that it wasn't an inactivity kill.
Anyway, I don't know enough to stand by that. It's just a thought.
BUT, what I do know is that mathematically speaking, the town has put themselves behind the curve if they don't keep up with the kill rates going on around them. These games could have as many as two or three town kills in a night (it has happened before). Plus, add in the Mafia swarming in to vote for lynches against other townies and convincing the vote to go in a wrong direction and the town death rate grows and grows while Mafia and 3rd parties alike gain the advantage.
The point I'm making is that it's a lot harder to rally a town of very few town members together in late game and actually nail multiple Mafia members and 3rd party roles at that point than it is to use the assumed odds town probably already has in the early game. I 100 percent agree that lynching a town member is the greatest possible suck. BUT, it's much better to do it now while we have numbers and can use clues to go on from there than to wait around and possibly mistakenly lynch one of our own when our numbers are down. The flaw I'm seeing in some of the people voting for No Lynch is that there's an unspoken assumption that we're actually going to learn enough to NOT mis-lynch town people. The likelihood of town lynching townspeople is always high. I just don't understand why we want to wait until we're short 2 or possibly 3 members before we go into a Day 2 lynch and possibly just feed the scum even more. In other words, I still think it puts us a full day behind the bad guys if don't act and use the opportunity to use what little power we have as sitting ducks.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Mar 4, 2012 1:23:43 GMT -5
Again, no one else will say it, so I will. Concerning the No Lynch, we're not going to just be sitting ducks for Mafia night kill, but some have failed to realize the possibility of a 3rd party kill, which is ANOTHER member down from Town possibly. The way I read into "Brain Chop" death is that Great Khali could be on the loose as a serial killer. It seems to be a random incident. It could be our clue to realize that it's not just mafia and town at work here. And we're told that it wasn't an inactivity kill. Anyway, I don't know enough to stand by that. It's just a thought. BUT, what I do know is that mathematically speaking, the town has put themselves behind the curve if they don't keep up with the kill rates going on around them. These games could have as many as two or three town kills in a night (it has happened before). Plus, add in the Mafia swarming in to vote for lynches against other townies and convincing the vote to go in a wrong direction and the town death rate grows and grows while Mafia and 3rd parties alike gain the advantage. The point I'm making is that it's a lot harder to rally a town of very few town members together in late game and actually nail multiple Mafia members and 3rd party roles at that point than it is to use the assumed odds town probably already has in the early game. I 100 percent agree that lynching a town member is the greatest possible suck. BUT, it's much better to do it now while we have numbers and can use clues to go on from there than to wait around and possibly mistakenly lynch one of our own when our numbers are down. The flaw I'm seeing in some of the people voting for No Lynch is that there's an unspoken assumption that we're actually going to learn enough to NOT mis-lynch town people. The likelihood of town lynching townspeople is always high. I just don't understand why we want to wait until we're short 2 or possibly 3 members before we go into a Day 2 lynch and possibly just feed the scum even more. In other words, I still think it puts us a full day behind the bad guys if don't act and use the opportunity to use what little power we have as sitting ducks. You know what. . . this is a very well articulated, valid argument. And trust me, I hate to admit that, since I've been adamantly calling for a No Lynch. But the main thing that swayed me was the point that the next day phase, we're going to be exactly where we are now, with no clue who to vote for. You, Jono, SNS, and Hayden all kind of brought up the need to not sit around, and I've kind of dismissed it, but this changed my mind about it. Also interesting, since you had the guts to deviate from the group thought to bring it up. So, even though it makes me look like a flip-flopper (which, in this instance, I admit I am) I'll agree with you. While it is a crap shoot, its not like the Locker Room Leader (Police) is going to reveal that much info for us in the next day phase. Most likely, they'll only determine an innocent party, and even if they find a Mafia, it'll be hard to point them out. So, even though, it makes me look like an idiot. . . Unvote. Vote Wolf Hurricane.As for why Wolf Hurricane, he's revealed he is Vickie Guerrero through the "Excuse Me"s. And out of the three people most likely revealed (Sheamus, Chris Jericho, Vickie Guerrero) Vickie is the most likely to be in the mafia. It's not a great lead. . . but its the best I got so early into the game.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Mar 4, 2012 1:29:41 GMT -5
Since another vote has been cast, Unvote.
I shall wait until tomorrow to make anyfurther decisions.
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Mar 4, 2012 2:03:33 GMT -5
Vote: No Lynch
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 4, 2012 2:17:00 GMT -5
Interesting.
I'm gonna go ahead and FOS: Brainbustaah[/i], as despite several pleas, he's pushing towards a no lynch. Which, right now, is something we really don't need.
I can't stress this enough guys, we have until Monday to get a better read on everyone people. If 12 people vote for a no lynch, we lose precious time and don't get a chance to potentially take out a member of the mafia. And should we lynch a townie, which would be terrible, we at least get to learn more about people.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 4, 2012 2:17:33 GMT -5
EBWOP: Meant to say FOS: Brainbustaah
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Mar 4, 2012 2:39:12 GMT -5
En serio? You want to lynch me? Based on what, me not wanting to misfire?
I want to wait and see. Sure, I'd normally be comfortable with taking a risk, but right now we have zero on information. All we know is Khali is brainchopping people, and ese, that's not enough for me. You're pretty gung-ho on killing someone, and in my mind that's as suspicious as not wanting to lynch without any information, if not more so. Why are you pushing so hard to off innocent people?
You want me to vote for someone? Okay. Unvote. FOS: Hayden.
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Mar 4, 2012 2:51:56 GMT -5
EBWOP: Sorry. Vote: Hayden.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 4, 2012 3:06:55 GMT -5
BB, I'm not gung-ho on killing anyone at the moment. My whole thing ever since we found out we're losing a day phase has been maximizing the amount of time that we do have. I believe we're at around 9-10 people voting for a non-lynch, and if we hit twelve, the day phase ends and we lose two people. Not only that, but any amount of time we could have had to get a better read on people is lost, putting us behind in Day Three. That's the only reason I'm currently suspicious of anyone who votes non-lynch now, because to me that seems as if they're trying to end the day phase.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Mar 4, 2012 3:08:54 GMT -5
Hayden and Brainbustaaah both make good points.
Whom do I choose to believe?
Interesting turn of events.
I'll refrain from voting for either at the moment though.
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