Death by Pickles!
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Post by Death by Pickles! on Sept 5, 2011 22:34:37 GMT -5
So Swagger looking great all match did what? Make Cena look invicible by submitting the guy who was submitting everyone else. He got him by reversing the ankle lock into the STF. It looked natural, it's not like he just jumped up and AA'ed the f*** out of Jack. Swagger comes out looking great, and Dolph only lost due to massive miscommunication with Swagger. It wasn't a bad ending. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 5, 2011 22:35:49 GMT -5
I did think it was lame they had Swagger tap as quickly as he did; but eh.
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Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Sept 5, 2011 22:37:05 GMT -5
It's not like he just jumped up and AA'ed the f*** out of Jack. Right. He did that to Dolph. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Sept 5, 2011 22:38:13 GMT -5
I did think it was lame they had Swagger tap as quickly as he did; but eh. The only thing I could think of as a defense for that would be that Swagger spent more time in the match than Cena, so Cena was fresher. *shrug* |
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trollrogue
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 5, 2011 22:38:46 GMT -5
@ the 13-year-old comment I said "Not this way" earlier because Swagger was just put over in the match eliminating guys by submission, so obviously him tapping out to Cena's STF is tantamount to labeling Cena as a submissions expert. There is no way that a brawler-type like Cena should be getting a wrestler like Swagger to tap out, clean. Much less reversing Swagger's signature move so easily like that-- it's out of character for Cena and I wish the powers that be in booking would stop trying to make Cena a jack-of-all-trades renaissance wrestler cause IMHO it's really hurting kayfabe. WTF? You do know Cena has made better wrestlers and top guys tap to the f***ing STF right? Swagger, Undertaker, ADR and Punk are the only credible threats to Cena in the WWE who use a submission as a finisher, and Swagger is the only one of them that Cena has made tap out. So not sure where you're coming from with your response, exactly. Either way as I said in my comment, this is more a gripe against making former World Champ Swagger look like a submissions specialist throughout the match, only for Cena to 'one-up' him at the end by reversing the hold into his own STF so easily. Swagger should not be tapping out to anyone lightly, much less a person who is not a submissions specialist. Period. (IMO) |
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Sept 5, 2011 22:39:07 GMT -5
You're a poor excuse for being here.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 5, 2011 22:39:51 GMT -5
I did think it was lame they had Swagger tap as quickly as he did; but eh. The only thing I could think of as a defense for that would be that Swagger spent more time in the match than Cena, so Cena was fresher. *shrug* Yeah, it didn't bother me that badly; hell it's not like they coulda drug it out for much longer since the show was ending anway. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 5, 2011 22:41:24 GMT -5
You're a poor excuse for being here. You like candy that rots your teeth. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 5, 2011 23:18:42 GMT -5
@ the 13-year-old comment I said "Not this way" earlier because Swagger was just put over in the match eliminating guys by submission, so obviously him tapping out to Cena's STF is tantamount to labeling Cena as a submissions expert. There is no way that a brawler-type like Cena should be getting a wrestler like Swagger to tap out, clean. Much less reversing Swagger's signature move so easily like that-- it's out of character for Cena and I wish the powers that be in booking would stop trying to make Cena a jack-of-all-trades renaissance wrestler cause IMHO it's really hurting kayfabe. WTF? You do know Cena has made better wrestlers and top guys tap to the f***ing STF right? THIS. Even the Great Berrier (lol) HHH has tapped to the STF. And you can't really say Cena is a submissions expert if he has only one submission hold. |
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Post by flatsdomino on Sept 5, 2011 23:21:03 GMT -5
I think that the thing we really should learn from toni-THIS UNIVERSE ISN'T BIG ENOUGH FOR THE BOTH OF US
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Post by joebob27 on Sept 5, 2011 23:23:59 GMT -5
WTF? You do know Cena has made better wrestlers and top guys tap to the f***ing STF right? THIS. Even the Great Berrier (lol) HHH has tapped to the STF. And you can't really say Cena is a submissions expert if he has only one submission hold. He also has the Crippler.... uh, what are we supposed to call that move? I think we're supposed to ignore it but Cole blurts out "CROSSFACE!" |
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J.O.B. Squad
Don Corleone
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Sept 5, 2011 23:42:46 GMT -5
I thought RAW was really good tonight,they managed to hype the bigger stars while also highlighting some of the lower card guys plus any RAW with Zack Ryder on it and winnning is good in my book.
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543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Sept 6, 2011 7:44:36 GMT -5
Loved this weeks Raw, so many enjoyable moments. Recks/Hawkins/Drew etc getting time on Raw, Truths promo (as always), Truth vs Punk was a great match, THE ZACK RYDER VIDEO PACKAGE (and a win), an enjoyable multiman main event, etc. It looks like they finally maybe getting back on track with the Supershow idea and using it to its full potential of giving everyone a moment to shine on the show.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Sept 6, 2011 7:47:23 GMT -5
Highlight of the show?
Either CM Punk laughing at Kevin Nash, or Natalya in that dress.
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