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Post by sprawl on Apr 3, 2012 21:18:48 GMT -5
In the beginning, the "Si!" chants took on a life of their own and the crowd began counting out Del Rio in Spanish.. wow
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Post by Krimzon on Apr 3, 2012 21:18:55 GMT -5
(6) Alberto Del Rio beat World Hvt. champion Sheamus via DQ in a non-title match; Del Rio earns a future World Title shot. In the beginning, the "Si!" chants took on a life of their own and the crowd began counting out Del Rio in Spanish. Del Rio began working on Sheamus's arm on the outside, then Sheamus mounted a comeback. Del Rio tried to attack Sheamus with a chair, but failed. Sheamus was caught with the chair in hand and was DQed! Del Rio pulled an Eddie Guerrero, feigning a chair shot from Sheamus. Post-match: Sheamus threw a fit, then took out his anger on the referee with a Brogue Kick to end the show. Overall, good chemistry for Del Rio and Sheamus. He hit a full-on Brogue Kick on a small referee? No way People Power Laurinaitis stands for that tomfoolery!
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Post by joebob27 on Apr 3, 2012 21:19:07 GMT -5
No, you need to end it. What do you do, not put either of them on Raw until it blows over? You don't bury one and then edit the crowd reactions for the other. End it. Have them have a rematch, a good one, Sheamus goes over clean, seeya later. Basically just give them what they want, unless they were nuts they didn't think they were getting a DB win, they just feel ripped off. You can build to said rematch without blowing it the same week. You can take into account reactions that you didn't expect without being ridiculously reactionary like some here want. You could, but it does not seem to be the case, they avoided it outright and programmed someone else in. This is where they screw up, they make a mistake, won't admit it, and make it worse. They can obviously protect their mistake, since it's a taped show, but like I said, do you seriously keep both of them off of Raw to do that? Stubborn. And it wouldn't be the first time they've blown off a WM feud a few days after show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 21:19:25 GMT -5
(6) Alberto Del Rio beat World Hvt. champion Sheamus via DQ in a non-title match; Del Rio earns a future World Title shot. In the beginning, the "Si!" chants took on a life of their own and the crowd began counting out Del Rio in Spanish. Del Rio began working on Sheamus's arm on the outside, then Sheamus mounted a comeback. Del Rio tried to attack Sheamus with a chair, but failed. Sheamus was caught with the chair in hand and was DQed! Del Rio pulled an Eddie Guerrero, feigning a chair shot from Sheamus. Post-match: Sheamus threw a fit, then took out his anger on the referee with a Brogue Kick to end the show. Overall, good chemistry for Del Rio and Sheamus. Forget Bryan and Sheamus, the REALLY extraordinary thing this angle has accomplished is that now del Rio is actually getting a reaction. It won't last. It never does.
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Post by Cronant on Apr 3, 2012 21:19:54 GMT -5
Him having a match/feud with ADR does not mean they're completely forgetting it.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Apr 3, 2012 21:19:58 GMT -5
Abe Washington, Lord Tensai, Sakamoto, Ryback, AND Damien Sandow in one week Not to mention Brock Lesnar. OMG OMG OMG OMG Sakamoto debuted? Did I miss something? Yeah. He's Lord Tensai's manager.
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 21:20:05 GMT -5
In the beginning, the "Si!" chants took on a life of their own and the crowd began counting out Del Rio in Spanish.. wow Vince: "Wow, look how over Del Rio is! I think we found our next World champion. This crowd loves him!"
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Post by Phil Parent on Apr 3, 2012 21:23:07 GMT -5
You know, Eddie Cheats + The Wink could get him over as a face.
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Post by zing on Apr 3, 2012 21:24:08 GMT -5
Sakamoto debuted? Did I miss something? Yeah. He's Lord Tensai's manager. Ah! I missed the start of that match. Cheers
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Apr 3, 2012 21:24:58 GMT -5
Woo Woo Woo, you know it. Oh Ra-di-o... Got a pink slip.. Time to go.. Ryder is definitely safe from releases considering the ridiculous amount of merch he moves. ...I am worried about some NXT guys though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 21:25:33 GMT -5
I'd book it for Bryan to claim he won the moral victory at Wrestlemania, and that Sheamus let the WWE Universe(tm) down by denying them the exciting championship match they wanted to see. "Fella, do I look like I give a damn?" *Brogue Kick* *Pose* *End Segment* Yeah, sure, if you want the guy to become the new John Cena where fans resent him for being booked as a douchy superman type booked to get over on people the fans care about more.
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 21:25:52 GMT -5
Him having a match/feud with ADR does not mean they're completely forgetting it. They're not forgetting it, they're just letting it lose steam. If the crowd wasn't as hot as it has been for Bryan, I honestly wouldn't have an issue with them moving on...but that's not the case. The fans...at least for the last 3 nights CLEARLY want Bryan challenge Sheamus and have a competitive match. WWE is just unwilling to capitalize on something that they didn't foresee, which is their own goddamn fault. Just like Nexxus, they got something they didn't expect and don't know where to go with it.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 3, 2012 21:26:09 GMT -5
depends on what they're doing. I find some concepts so wrong that I do dislike the idea of anyone cheering on someone doing those actions. Sort of like Dude, not funny You sound like a really fun guy to be around. Well, to be perfectly honest I think if I met you my reaction would be trying to get away as quick as possible.
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Post by Ringmaster on Apr 3, 2012 21:26:29 GMT -5
Bryan gets another huge boost from diehard fans who think he's the poor, put-upon martyr of workrate and indie wrestling being held down by the big bad corporation (and don't think WWE isn't capable of playing off that, because that's the angle they used last summer to elevate Punk into a top star), and the casual fans who don't watch regularly will see the highlights package of Sheamus winning the WHC in seconds and think "Wow, that guy's tough", and a few WWE-edited recaps where he isn't being booed, and they aren't going to waste enough time on wrestling to go online and look at the websites where people are raising a row about this. And in a few weeks (or heck, possibly even by next Monday at this rate, which is when a bunch of new viewers will tune in after hearing about Brock), Sheamus' boos will have blown over anyway. I don't know, I think everyone's coming out of this all right. So how bout that sheamus eh? He'll never get booed, evr, not by the casual fan, never, As a heel he will be beloved even more.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 3, 2012 21:26:40 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the problems with Cena at first that, between Christian and Jericho and Angle, they kept throwing him against guys who were over with longtime fans in the hopes that beating them would make Cena look good, only for it to make the fans of those wrestlers resent Cena and feel like he was being forced on them?
They don't have to worry about that with Sheamus vs. del Rio, because no one cares about del Rio.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 21:28:01 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the problems with Cena at first that, between Christian and Jericho and Angle, they kept throwing him against guys who were over with longtime fans in the hopes that beating them would make Cena look good, only for it to make the fans of those wrestlers resent Cena and feel like he was being forced on them? They don't have to worry about that with Sheamus vs. del Rio, because no one cares about del Rio. True, though the problem there is that since no one cares about him it doesn't really give them any reason to cheer Sheamus over him either, so they might go quiet or they might continue to dwell on the Bryan thing.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 3, 2012 21:28:15 GMT -5
The sad thing here is it is obvious WWE is unhappy about Daniel Bryan getting over so they jobbed him immediately and now he is not getting a rematch at all.
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 3, 2012 21:30:00 GMT -5
After the Smackdown TV taping concluded, WWE set up an eight-man tag dark match featuring Raw top star John Cena. There were many "Yes!" chants during ring intros.
Dark Match: John Cena & Randy Orton & World Hvt. champion Sheamus & IC champion Big Show beat Kane & Daniel Bryan & Mark Henry & Cody Rhodes in an eight-man tag match. Cena had a lot of fun tonight in the laid-back setting. The face team won after they all hit their finishers. Very fun house show style match to close the show.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 3, 2012 21:30:30 GMT -5
The sad thing here is it is obvious WWE is unhappy about Daniel Bryan getting over so they jobbed him immediately and now he is not getting a rematch at all. are you serious? If they weren unhappy with Bryan being over he would have lost his belt well before Mania, if he won it at all
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 21:30:42 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the problems with Cena at first that, between Christian and Jericho and Angle, they kept throwing him against guys who were over with longtime fans in the hopes that beating them would make Cena look good, only for it to make the fans of those wrestlers resent Cena and feel like he was being forced on them? They don't have to worry about that with Sheamus vs. del Rio, because no one cares about del Rio. That wasn't the only issue...it was a complete change of character for him. As much as I think Sheamus has potential, WWE has just completely gone the full generic face route by having him win and it not meaning very much. Even as a fan of the guy, you have to admit that his Rumble win was very underwhelming. That's WWE's fault...not Sheamus'.
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