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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 17, 2012 23:38:28 GMT -5
I will say there's a very good chance AJ gonna get heat from the office for making Natalya bleed to the point where they had to clean it up and likely have to either edit the segment significantly or take it out completely. If you've read any wrestling autobiographies like Chris Jericho's, you'll know Vince freaks out when one of the workers clumsily/carelessly hurts another when there's no reason to. And that was during the attitude era and with top male talent. She might be deemed too green or reckless and whatever plans they may have had for her, might be scaled down significantly.
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Post by juvijuiceisloose on Apr 17, 2012 23:48:24 GMT -5
I will say there's a very good chance AJ gonna get heat from the office for making Natalya bleed to the point where they had to clean it up and likely have to either edit the segment significantly or take it out completely. If you've read any wrestling autobiographies like Chris Jericho's, you'll know Vince freaks out when one of the workers clumsily/carelessly hurts another when there's no reason to. And that was during the attitude era and with top male talent. She might be deemed too green or reckless and whatever plans they may have had for her, might be scaled down significantly. I'm not sure. Alicia Fox crushed Beth Phoenix's face, and somehow Beth was the one who was demoted to Superstars every week. And she's the Diva's Champion! Also, in Jericho's case, he was accused of being too rough with Chyna and X-Pac. People, who, had a lot of political stroke at the time. |
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Apr 17, 2012 23:50:23 GMT -5
I will say there's a very good chance AJ gonna get heat from the office for making Natalya bleed to the point where they had to clean it up and likely have to either edit the segment significantly or take it out completely. If you've read any wrestling autobiographies like Chris Jericho's, you'll know Vince freaks out when one of the workers clumsily/carelessly hurts another when there's no reason to. And that was during the attitude era and with top male talent. She might be deemed too green or reckless and whatever plans they may have had for her, might be scaled down significantly. I'm not sure. Alicia Fox crushed Beth Phoenix's face, and somehow Beth was the one who was demoted to Superstars every week. And she's the Diva's Champion! Also, in Jericho's case, he was accused of being too rough with Chyna and X-Pac. People, who, had a lot of political stroke at the time. Yeah but Alicia got demoted to NXT lol I wouldn't expect it anyway since she was supposed to go crazy. She may get a slap on the wrist but I don't think anything too big. |
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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 17, 2012 23:51:26 GMT -5
Then again, Alicia Fox was scheduled to at least have a program with Beth, and instead she spent the next 4 months looking for a dress to wear at Mania.
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Post by norsisclouds on Apr 17, 2012 23:54:51 GMT -5
Then again, Alicia Fox was scheduled to at least have a program with Beth, and instead she spent the next 4 months looking for a dress to wear at Mania. Yep. And she didn't get her title shot at the next PPV, it was instead given to Kelly Kelly. My complaint wasn't about AJ being incapable, just how unrealistic it looks for someone her size to go crazy and beat up Natalya. It looked unbelievable when Eve, who is bigger than AJ was putting Natalya into choke holds in the corner. Natalya's arms are 2x as big, not to mention we've seen that she can put divas into standing suplexes and gorilla presses. I hope it doesn't look as dumb as Kelly going nuts and attacking Beth. Just not believable. Maybe if they let her use a chair....but they'll never do that. |
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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 18, 2012 0:00:14 GMT -5
See also Kennedy, Ken.
Might also want to check King Mabel.
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 18, 2012 0:05:24 GMT -5
Then again, Alicia Fox was scheduled to at least have a program with Beth, and instead she spent the next 4 months looking for a dress to wear at Mania. Yep. And she didn't get her title shot at the next PPV, it was instead given to Kelly Kelly. My complaint wasn't about AJ being incapable, just how unrealistic it looks for someone her size to go crazy and beat up Natalya. It looked unbelievable when Eve, who is bigger than AJ was putting Natalya into choke holds in the corner. Natalya's arms are 2x as big, not to mention we've seen that she can put divas into standing suplexes and gorilla presses. I hope it doesn't look as dumb as Kelly going nuts and attacking Beth. Just not believable. Maybe if they let her use a chair....but they'll never do that. From a couple of the reports I've read, it was a cheap shot (AJ was in shock, so Natalya checked on her and AJ just started going mental). See also Kennedy, Ken. Might also want to check King Mabel. I'm pretty sure those guys had a history of being rough in the ring (and I'm pretty sure that every main eventer, at one point, complained about Kennedy). |
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 18, 2012 4:12:48 GMT -5
AJ is getting more and more unlikeable by each appearence.she stands by a guy who bullies her,he then kicks her to the curb,then she tries to talk to him again a few times,he has none of it,throughout she acts like a quiet little mouse and for no reason at all she decides to go nuts on Natalya.In Kayfabe,AJ is a pretty pathetic piece of work,she loves the jerk and doesnt have the guts to stick up for herself if she isnt happy,instead attacking an innocent party rather then going for Bryan himself.She just has to be turning heel because while she is cute and all,her personality is pretty bad in Kayfabe.As for Natalya,she has no credibility anymore.
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Post by avenger on Apr 18, 2012 5:48:56 GMT -5
5. Ryback beat Danny Merman. Ryback won the squash with the same finisher he's been using. He received no reaction and got some boos as the match went on. The crowd seemed to feel sorry for the local wrestler. Ryback looks intense. He just doesn't connect with the audience. Well that sucks. Maybe the whole "squash a jobber" routine only works in certain parts of certain countries... Jobbher squashes were the staple of US wrestling TV in the 1980s and early 1990s. UK Wrestling was totally different. We rarely had angles, we rarely had face/heel turns (I can only remember about three in fifteen years), and virtually no jobber squashes. I can remember one squash being on TV in the 1980s, they just weren't part of UK wrestling culture, and with WWF TV only being accessible to most people from 1992 onwards, there was only a period of 2-3 years where the main WWF programming shown in the UK was jobber squashes. Besides, UK crowds are usually smarter ones: when was the last guy to debut in jobber squashes that actually went on to mean something? It's guys like Snitsky, Mike Knox, Zeke and Kozlov - guys who are going to be jobbers to the stars that get pushed using jobber squashes We've seen Ryback for a total of five minutes, and we know nothing about the 'Ryback' personalty - last time we saw this guy, he was a heel in Nexus (which has been referenced on TV, even if they've not called him Skip Sheffield). What reason to crowds have to react to him? |
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Post by 543Y2J on Apr 18, 2012 5:55:27 GMT -5
Has Antonio been doing the popup european uppercut regularly in FCW? I have seen him use it once in his first appearance but havent seen many matches of his since then
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 9:20:14 GMT -5
You know, I am glad that they are keeping Cody Rhodes as a threat to the Big Show by having him take Khali out of a match (only for Big Show to be the replacement), because I would like to see him regain the IC belt.
All in all, looks like a very fun show... except for Funkasaurus/Hornswoggle. That's an abomination.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 18, 2012 9:58:50 GMT -5
when was the last guy to debut in jobber squashes that actually went on to mean something? It's guys like Snitsky, Mike Knox, Zeke and Kozlov - guys who are going to be jobbers to the stars that get pushed using jobber squashes I hate the jobber squash debut for this reason. It just stinks of the WWE wanting to get a guy on TV but not having a clue what to do with him. I think the last jobber-squash debut guy to actually go and achieve something was Sheamus. And really, he didn't have many squash matches, I remember he was put into a very good feud with Goldust early on. |
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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 18, 2012 13:53:10 GMT -5
Ironically and perhaps luckily, if this was on Raw or a live Smackdown, AJ probably could've been Daniel Bryan "tiegated" from the company. I don't think Mattel or any of their sponsers would be happy with women making other women bleed from their heads spilling blood onto the mat live on a PG show.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Apr 18, 2012 14:16:11 GMT -5
Ironically and perhaps luckily, if this was on Raw or a live Smackdown, AJ probably could've been Daniel Bryan "tiegated" from the company. I don't think Mattel or any of their sponsers would be happy with women making other women bleed from their heads spilling blood onto the mat live on a PG show. Kaitlyn bled on NXT and nothing happened. |
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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 18, 2012 14:18:10 GMT -5
Ironically and perhaps luckily, if this was on Raw or a live Smackdown, AJ probably could've been Daniel Bryan "tiegated" from the company. I don't think Mattel or any of their sponsers would be happy with women making other women bleed from their heads spilling blood onto the mat live on a PG show. Kaitlyn bled on NXT and nothing happened. On a big stage that millions watch versus a show dozens watch, as well as the context of the angle of her going crazy attacking another woman versus simply a normal match that can be seen as accidental make it much different. And the degree of the bleeding would be significantly greater with them trotting out paramedics with towels to clean up Natalya right in the ring instead of her going to the back and getting it done. |
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Apr 18, 2012 15:36:24 GMT -5
I hope Antonio & Bryan face off for A, and amazing match & B, duelling chants of "HEEEEEEY!" and "YES!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 15:41:30 GMT -5
If "Danny Merman" gets mic time I'll watch.
EDIT: just saw on page 3. ;D
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Apr 18, 2012 16:29:42 GMT -5
OOOOOHHHH Claudiooooooo
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 20, 2012 5:11:04 GMT -5
OK, I just watched the AJ/Natalya thing... forget about unrealistic-ness for a moment, and let's put this into context (and sorry if it looks like I'm rambling). AJ's not right in the head right now, and that's a fact. All this relationship stuff with Bryan is wearing her down. Natalya was expecting a normal match, but she got taken out of her game by AJ's mood. She went over to try and help, but got caught by surprise by someone running on pure emotional adrenalin, plain and simple. Natalya was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time, because as we know... Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Besides, she only took a slap, an elbow to the back and a couple of wild punch flurries before the ref called for a DQ, not so much because Natalya couldn't defend herself, but because AJ wouldn't release her from the corner. And Natalya wasn't left lying face down, unconscious in a pool of her own blood like the reports seemed to imply (although with the editing the way it was, she probably did bleed). She was only slightly dazed if anything. My verdict... NOT A BURIAL. The weight thing is irrelevant, in my opinion (there's a 28 lb weight difference between AJ and Natalya, but there was also a 33 lb weight difference between CM Punk and John Cena and no one called that "unrealistic" when the smaller guy won). Natalya has the same amount of "credibility" as she did when she walked in. Hell, she actually got a notch in the win column for her troubles. And, let's face it... at least she's over her gas problems. Silver linings, guys.  TL;DR - Watch the match, it makes sense. |
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Post by skulldouggory on Apr 20, 2012 9:45:17 GMT -5
Why did they make Khali ( who is in so much pain due to his condition) sit through a flight from the US to England to be taken out of a match he didnt need to be in in the first place. I know he was also probly used on the europeon house show circuit. But surely they could of left him in the states.
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