Dave at the Movies
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Apr 24, 2012 2:13:28 GMT -5
I honestly think so. Sure they aren't super technical like Daniel Bryan but they have decent matches and don't look sloppy.
As wrestlers I would put them way above Kelly Kelly who just isn't coordinated in a wrestling sense at all.
They may be limited to some degree but I just don't understand why people constantly say they can't wrestle because they obviously can.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 24, 2012 2:14:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I think they are underrated as both wrestlers and entertainers in general. They're probably my favorite Divas at the moment.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 24, 2012 2:17:56 GMT -5
I honestly can't think of a single Bella Twin match that I actually enjoyed. Which is saying something, because I can at least name a few Kelly Kelly matches that have been entertaining. While the Bella's aren't sloppy, they are boring as hell in the ring. They show no personality and don't do anything in the ring to make themselves stand out.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 24, 2012 2:32:45 GMT -5
I honestly can't think of a single Bella Twin match that I actually enjoyed. Which is saying something, because I can at least name a few Kelly Kelly matches that have been entertaining. While the Bella's aren't sloppy, they are boring as hell in the ring. They show no personality and don't do anything in the ring to make themselves stand out. Yep. I've seen Kelly Kelly carried to a halfway decent match on more than one occasion. The Bellas can't even manage that. And OP, I think you're overthinking the "they can't wrestle" thing. Everybody that steps into the ring CAN wrestle. The Great Khali can wrestle. Rosa Mendes can wrestle. They're just very bad at it. I mean everybody can draw in the literal sense that they can put a pencil to a piece of paper. But some art makes your eyes bleed. It boils down to semantics. You're splitting hairs really. And no offense but everytime someone posts one of these "This is how I think and I don't understand how anyone can think otherwise" posts I always read it in the whiniest voice imaginable. I dunno why.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 24, 2012 5:32:18 GMT -5
He said carried to a decent match. Not carry a match.
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 24, 2012 5:42:47 GMT -5
I liked them WAY better before they turned into bullies/sluts for whatever heel is the flavor of the month. The whole mystery of them switching before they revealed they were twins was pretty entertaining to me.
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Dave at the Movies
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Apr 24, 2012 5:47:58 GMT -5
I liked them WAY better before they turned into bullies/sluts for whatever heel is the flavor of the month. The whole mystery of them switching before they revealed they were twins was pretty entertaining to me. Is that how they were introduced? I've completely forgot.
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Post by HR on Apr 24, 2012 5:49:54 GMT -5
They show no personality and don't do anything in the ring to make themselves stand out. This couldn't be more wrong. Apart from Mark Henry and Titus O'Neal they're the best trash talkers in the company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 24, 2012 5:53:41 GMT -5
I liked them WAY better before they turned into bullies/sluts for whatever heel is the flavor of the month. The whole mystery of them switching before they revealed they were twins was pretty entertaining to me. Is that how they were introduced? I've completely forgot. Yeah, Brie showed up wrestling Natty and Victoria she would slide under the ring mid match and Nikki would finish. During one of them Natty grabbed Brie going out and Victoria pulled Nikki from under the ring.
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Post by PKO on Apr 24, 2012 5:59:10 GMT -5
On every level of what it takes to be a wrestler, they're not bad, but they're not good. Their psychology is decent though, especially for model divas.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 24, 2012 7:41:52 GMT -5
They show no personality and don't do anything in the ring to make themselves stand out. This couldn't be more wrong. Apart from Mark Henry and Titus O'Neal they're the best trash talkers in the company. That's the main thing I hate about divas matches these days. They spend a minute in the ring trash talking each other when they know they only have at most 2 minutes for a match. Then they end up only having time to hit about 2 actual moves before the roll up of doom finish comes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 7:47:26 GMT -5
They're my favorites in the company right now. Underrated as wrestlers, definitely. No, they're not going to be putting on five-star classics, but then I don't think any of the ones they have now would, aside from possibly Kharma. They sell better than most, and their gimmick allows them to be booked in a way that makes sense, since they don't need to overpower or out-wrestle the Divas who are bigger than them. It's too bad they committed the atrocity of modeling before wrestling.
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Post by HR on Apr 24, 2012 7:59:43 GMT -5
This couldn't be more wrong. Apart from Mark Henry and Titus O'Neal they're the best trash talkers in the company. That's the main thing I hate about divas matches these days. They spend a minute in the ring trash talking each other when they know they only have at most 2 minutes for a match. Then they end up only having time to hit about 2 actual moves before the roll up of doom finish comes. So you criticise them for not showing personality, but when they do they're not using their time well? It's not their fault the matches are short - the fact is that they are charismatic, and they are unique. The two moves thing is a pretty dead end argument as well really. They've shown that when they are given the opportunity they can have entertaining matches which tell a good story. PKO alluded to their grasp of psychology, they've done body part work in the past that would have people salivating if they weren't pigeonholed models.
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Post by Krimzon on Apr 24, 2012 8:01:43 GMT -5
Eh. They could be worse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 10:04:01 GMT -5
I honestly can't think of a single Bella Twin match that I actually enjoyed. Which is saying something, because I can at least name a few Kelly Kelly matches that have been entertaining. While the Bella's aren't sloppy, they are boring as hell in the ring. They show no personality and don't do anything in the ring to make themselves stand out. Yep. I've seen Kelly Kelly carried to a halfway decent match on more than one occasion. The Bellas can't even manage that. And OP, I think you're overthinking the "they can't wrestle" thing. Everybody that steps into the ring CAN wrestle. The Great Khali can wrestle. Rosa Mendes can wrestle. They're just very bad at it. I mean everybody can draw in the literal sense that they can put a pencil to a piece of paper. But some art makes your eyes bleed. It boils down to semantics. You're splitting hairs really. Having better matches when you get put in the ring with a much better opponent than you usually have isn't "being carried". Even the best wrestler in the world's match quality is probably going to improve when the quality of his opponents improve, especially if he goes from working with terrible wrestlers to decent (or good or great) wrestlers.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 24, 2012 10:23:47 GMT -5
That's the main thing I hate about divas matches these days. They spend a minute in the ring trash talking each other when they know they only have at most 2 minutes for a match. Then they end up only having time to hit about 2 actual moves before the roll up of doom finish comes. So you criticise them for not showing personality, but when they do they're not using their time well? It's not their fault the matches are short - the fact is that they are charismatic, and they are unique. The two moves thing is a pretty dead end argument as well really. They've shown that when they are given the opportunity they can have entertaining matches which tell a good story. PKO alluded to their grasp of psychology, they've done body part work in the past that would have people salivating if they weren't pigeonholed models. Trash talking doesn't equal charismatic. It's just wasting time because of limited wrestling ability. Their moveset consists of mainly simple strikes and hair pulling. And like I said before, I haven't seen a single entertaining Bellas match since they've been employed, and I'm pretty easily entertained. And now that Eve's found a personality since turning heel, the Bella Twins are currently the most boring divas on the roster. I honestly doubt they'd even still have a job if they weren't twins.
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Post by Indiana Miz on Apr 24, 2012 11:12:32 GMT -5
I think they are somewhat underrated. Of course they're not as good as Beth and Natalya, but they're good at the moves that they do (dropkicks, forearms, Bella Buster, etc.)
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Post by Essential1 on Apr 24, 2012 12:01:04 GMT -5
When watching RAW yesterday I was thinking they were underrated. They just go out and do what they got to do and get it done and I've never really been bored of them or anything.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Apr 24, 2012 12:10:05 GMT -5
They are never going to be master technicians, but as its been said they get the job done and I enjoy when they are on more so than probably any of the other divas.
The difference between them and 90% of the rest of the roster is that they have a defined role. They cheat, talk shit, and look hot doing it.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on Apr 24, 2012 12:23:05 GMT -5
I think so. I've always liked them
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