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Post by Widow's Peak on May 18, 2012 15:18:22 GMT -5
He could do what Flair did and sell his most prized possessions to a friend for cheap. A move he stole from the First Wives Club. Besides. If this is really going to get as ugly as people are thinking, especially to the point where WWE is stepping in and trying to start damage control with Cena- it's likely that there's going to be far more of his wife going for the jugular in claims that'd hurt WWE as much as Cena. I honestly give it about two weeks before his wife claims something like "I personally injected Cena with steroids [x] number of times, including many after 2007..." [something that'd be damning to both Cena and WWE, even if likely false.] Yup, I pretty much expect that to happen.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 18, 2012 20:12:44 GMT -5
Instead, he made a legal commitment to her and now wants to hand-wave and act like he didn't. Behavior like that makes all men look bad. It is not as though he cannot afford to divide the marital assets up but he is just wanting to throw her out into the cold now that he has no use for her. Be a man, John. I think that's unfairly assuming a lot. He tried to settle things with her without bringing lawyers into it and she refused to let the marriage end. It sounds like he was trying to be a man. It's a few of the forum posters saying they don't feel she did anything to deserve any assets, not John. He clearly doesn't feel the same way as he tried to offer her a large lump sum. Whether that amount was substantial or paltry, who knows, but it's a far cry from "throwing her out into the cold." But it is John that said it as well. His application for divorce states that there are no marital assets. I am nearly broke and even if my wife and I got divorced there would be marital assets (not much, probably around 30K worth). Essentially, by claiming that there was no marital assets he is claiming that he did not make any money. Even if they spent every dime he made, the things he bought would construe marital assets.
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Post by The Deadly Snake on May 19, 2012 4:26:44 GMT -5
Long post, but long story short, it depends on what the pre-nup said. If it's "render things unto Caesar's to Caesar's", then it will be over quickly. But if it's "everything before marriage is kept separate, everything after is fair game", that's a another story. Again, even if a pre-nup says that it is legally unenforceable. The law says that married people are a joint entity and that assets earned during a marriage belong to both in the event of a divorce. That is the law and no pre-nup can legally circumvent that. If Cena had that kind of language written into his pre-nup he clearly hoped that he could intimidate his wife into not defending her rights in the event of a divorce. The fact that she hired a known ball-busting attorney means that isn't going to be able to bully her into giving up her rights. Does that mean that pre-nups is useless? No, not at all. Pre-nups can protect pre-marriage and post marriage assets (i.e., no alimony) provided that there are no children to support. It just cannot dictate how the assets collected in the marriage are distributed. If you don't like it, don't get married. He was with her for years without marrying her. If he had dumped her prior to marrying her he could get exactly what he is asking for. Instead, he made a legal commitment to her and now wants to hand-wave and act like he didn't. Behavior like that makes all men look bad. It is not as though he cannot afford to divide the marital assets up but he is just wanting to throw her out into the cold now that he has no use for her. Be a man, John. I don't know why you are correcting me. That'e exactly what I said. What part of "But if it's "everything before marriage is kept separate, everything after is fair game"" was I not clear about?
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on May 19, 2012 5:01:13 GMT -5
I honestly give it about two weeks before his wife claims something like "I personally injected Cena with steroids [x] number of times, including many after 2007..." [something that'd be damning to both Cena and WWE, even if likely false.] If she were to make that claim, Cena would sue her for defamation so fast it would make her head spin. That would be no help to her getting any money.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 19, 2012 9:57:48 GMT -5
The latest from TMZ: John Cena's Wife: You Can't Divorce Me... Yet "John Cena's wife REFUSES to let the wrestler file for divorce -- at least the way he's doing it now -- and to prove she means business, she's asking a judge to throw out the WWE legend's divorce papers.
Elizabeth Cena just filed legal docs in Florida, claiming John's recent divorce petition is riddled with errors ... and should be dismissed.
According to Elizabeth, John inaccurately refers to her by her maiden name (Huberdeau) instead of her legal name (Cena). As a result, Elizabeth says John fails to bring "a proper dissolution of marriage action" against her.
Elizabeth also claims John failed to attach the prenup he references in his initial divorce filing -- a copy of which MUST be attached in order for the filing to be valid.
Elizabeth also takes issues with John's claim that there's no marital property -- Elizabeth insists there is ... and she wants her share."www.tmz.com/2012/05/18/john-cena-wife-elizabeth-huberdeau-divorce/Huberdeau? More like a Huberdon't AMIRITEGUYS? ~looks around for hi-five~
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Post by corndog on May 19, 2012 11:26:42 GMT -5
Add me to that..I would like to know. It's very simple. Marriage is a partnership. Both partners take a role in the marriage in order to make it work, but this is not always optimal for both partners' individual earning potentials. For example: - One partner's job may be more lucrative, so they decide together to sacrifice the other partner's job in order to allow the one partner to follow his/her career. (My friends did this... one got an excellent faculty position at a prestigious university, so the other gave up a somewhat less-excellent position to follow, and found a position at their partner's new institution.) - The couple may have children, and elect to have one partner stay home with those children until they are of a certain age. In this case, the homebound partner's earnings and earning potential are DRASTICALLY slashed, to the point of basically ruining any chance at independent retirement. - One partner's job may be so lucrative that is worthwhile for the other to perform more domestic tasks to make them both happy... keep a beautiful home, manage the finances, rub the other's shoulders when they come home and make a gorgeous dinner, etc. In each of these cases, the two people, as partners, have decided that their household finances are joint, and therefore they do not individually have to scramble to protect themselves monetarily. They are a combined household, moving forward together, and their happiness is a combination of financial gain and non-employment-related tasks. The division of labor in the relationship allows them to be more successful as a team than they would be individually. However, what happens when there is a divorce? In the minds of some, it seems that only the one whose career was prioritized in the partnership should be able to keep the wealth accumulated during the marriage. But this ignores the realities of a two-person team, which I've outlined above. If the world worked as you seem to think it should, no one would ever sacrifice their career for a partner's, because it would be suicidal... divorce would leave the partner who sacrificed their career utterly destitute, with all of those years of earnings and earning potential wasted. In order to make these kinds of partnerships work, we recognize that the things produced in a marriage... wealth, offspring, assets, possessions... these things were the belongings of a two-person team, and must be divided up now that the team has split. Some of that sounds ridiculous, mainly being domestic and "managing" the house, people as wealthy as John pay people to keep the house clean and yard managed, and alot of women married to wealthy men can't cook to save their lives. That sounds pretty outdated in my opinion. It would work for a middle class marriage, but not one with Cena's kind of money involved. Without children there really are no excuses for her to rob him blind, the children make a huge difference, especially since she would need to have custody due to his job. The money earned during the marriage is more than fair, even if she had to quit her job. It gives more than enough to live stabily until she can get back into the job market, if she isn't there already. Still, several wrestlers including JBL and the Rock had very successful wives, if anything them being on the road gives them more time for their career. The most common excuse heard during these type of marriages is being used to the lifestyle, basically spending their husband's money. Still, does she have her own career? Heck, maybe it's even completely backwards and Cena is supporting her career. There is some cases where the person is professionally linked to the person they are divorcing. If Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne ever divorced, she would have a very very strong case in this situation, considering she is his manager. Heck Ozzy would be broke and probably dead if it weren't for Sharon. But I seriously doubt she had these kind of professional links to Cena. On a smaller acount, even Elizabeth could have claimed something for her contributions to Savage's success. But really, without having children that need to be taken care of and not having a professional link to her husband, I can't imagine her being entitled to more than a few million. She possibly had to manage bills and the money itself, but that still shouldn't prevent her from having her own career while Cena is on the road. It doesn't take very long to sign checks. Most of us have to manage our own bills and work, some even go to school or have two jobs. I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who only has to manage one(and the lesser) of the responsibilities I have. Also with manage bills going electronic, it's possibly Cena could even manage his bills, so essentially she might not do very much at all.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 19, 2012 22:41:18 GMT -5
Again, even if a pre-nup says that it is legally unenforceable. The law says that married people are a joint entity and that assets earned during a marriage belong to both in the event of a divorce. That is the law and no pre-nup can legally circumvent that. If Cena had that kind of language written into his pre-nup he clearly hoped that he could intimidate his wife into not defending her rights in the event of a divorce. The fact that she hired a known ball-busting attorney means that isn't going to be able to bully her into giving up her rights. Does that mean that pre-nups is useless? No, not at all. Pre-nups can protect pre-marriage and post marriage assets (i.e., no alimony) provided that there are no children to support. It just cannot dictate how the assets collected in the marriage are distributed. If you don't like it, don't get married. He was with her for years without marrying her. If he had dumped her prior to marrying her he could get exactly what he is asking for. Instead, he made a legal commitment to her and now wants to hand-wave and act like he didn't. Behavior like that makes all men look bad. It is not as though he cannot afford to divide the marital assets up but he is just wanting to throw her out into the cold now that he has no use for her. Be a man, John. I don't know why you are correcting me. That'e exactly what I said. What part of "But if it's "everything before marriage is kept separate, everything after is fair game"" was I not clear about? I guess the "render things unto Caesar's to Caesar's" confused me. I interpreted that as John being Caesar, who earned all the money, and that all earn should be rendered to him.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on May 19, 2012 23:18:23 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if both husband and wife work during their marriage and have no kids...do their earnings still get split if they have a divorce, assuming one made more than the other?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 19, 2012 23:29:20 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, if both husband and wife work during their marriage and have no kids...do their earnings still get split if they have a divorce, assuming one made more than the other? Yes, they do.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 19, 2012 23:51:17 GMT -5
"Son, don't get married. Ever."
-My dad.
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