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Post by flatsdomino on Aug 23, 2011 17:53:45 GMT -5
I don't hate Jeff Hardy, but this is just too soon. He and Matt need at least four more months.
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Post by angryfan on Aug 23, 2011 17:54:54 GMT -5
If he does come back clean, then good for him but what kind of message does that send to the rest of the roster? They could push Styles as the guy again or give a member of Beer Money a shot at the top or even reward a renewed Brother Ray for busting his ass but, instead, they give a top spot to Hardy. Hardy would just add to the stagnation, doing his old, outdated persona, with the same spots, the same ideas, that he's brought to the table for the last decade or so. The message it sends would probably be that if you become a big enough star in this business, you're allowed extra leeway with your behavior. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. Guys with bigger reward upsides should be allowed to have more risky downsides; it's just smart business. As for Jeff being stale, I don't know about that. His heel character had only been around for, what, five months, before the Victory Road incident and his subsequent dismissal. His ring-work may be a different story, but that could apply to anyone, so why single out Jeff? I was never a big fan, myself, but I wouldn't let my single opinion dictate how he should be used. He's still a big time "name" in the business, is probably still massively over, and is fairly talented. That warrants a return to the main event scene to me, assuming he's clean. Yes, bigger names get more lee-way, I agree and in general I'm ok with it. I'm ok with it when it comes to "you guys can do this spot because you're pros and we trust you" or "you can promo freestyle because you've been around long enough to know what you're doing". It does not, nor should it ever, include, "you've drawn money, so go ahead, go to the ring trashed and unstable for the main event of a pay-pwer-view" or "go ahead and refuse to get clean, or get your legal case taken care of, we'll put you on TV without you showing one bit of an attempt to not pull the crap again".
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Post by Widow's Peak on Aug 23, 2011 18:17:22 GMT -5
There is no way that Jeff is clean right now. He's shown no evidence that he is trying to clean up his act. Did he go to rehab? No. Did he post a video apologizing to TNA, Sting and the audience for his performance at the PPV? No. Did he so much as tweet a "sorry, my bad" message? No. All he's managed to do is give the same BS statements he always gives while his "friends" enable him. Oh, and he posted a video of his drunk ass tazing a woman. Awesome.
I'm not a hater. I'm a huge fan of the guy. I'd like nothing more than to see him clean and sober and once again successful in the wrestling business. Nothing would make me happier than to log in to this site and see a thread that he's checked himself into rehab and is taking full responsibility for his addictions. Until that happens though, I honestly don't care if he ever laces up a pair of wrestling boots again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2011 18:47:54 GMT -5
I'm cool with bringing him back at some point - though not until he's shown anything whatsoever for the time off - but they'd have to be f***ing morons to give him the title again.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Aug 23, 2011 19:39:55 GMT -5
The Charlie Sheen of Pro Wrestling is back to stumble around once more. Everything is op. no i find Sheen entertaining
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 23, 2011 19:47:35 GMT -5
The Charlie Sheen of Pro Wrestling is back to stumble around once more. Everything is op. no i find Sheen entertaining Well, that's subjective, but they're pretty much the same person in different mediums at this point. Drug addled, past their prime and completely in denial of it, riding on past successes, and, at best, entertaining as train wrecks. All Hardy needs is some silly catchphrase, and they're a perfect match.
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Post by Andy Martin on Aug 23, 2011 21:21:13 GMT -5
The Charlie Sheen of Pro Wrestling is back to stumble around once more. Everything is op. Except Charlie Sheen is much, much more entertaining.
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Aug 23, 2011 21:29:48 GMT -5
If he can keep clean I am all for him being back,but if he is gonna pull the same old crap than he needs to be canned like his brother.
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Post by foreveryoung on Aug 23, 2011 21:47:56 GMT -5
Wrestling is the only business I know where you can continue to be popped for drugs yet continue to keep your job
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Post by RareTradU on Aug 23, 2011 22:50:29 GMT -5
I think it's time for Hardy to grow up and get himself together. How many 2nd or 3rd chances can you get? Eddie Guerrero was a huge substance abuser. It almost cost him his life (eventually did), marriage, and career. But he beat it and had the greatest run of his career afterwards. Hardy needs to get to that point in his life, to beat the addiction and get his life on track. I hope this run is that for him. If not then Impact Wrestling needs to let him go and quit wasting time on someone who isn't going to help themselves.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 23, 2011 23:55:32 GMT -5
Wrestling is the only business I know where you can continue to be popped for drugs yet continue to keep your job Relief pitcher for the Yankees used to be a job like that.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 24, 2011 2:21:17 GMT -5
Since he's returning away from the Impact Zone, am I the only one curious to see TNA's reaction if he comes out as a babyface and is booed out of the building?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 24, 2011 5:22:40 GMT -5
Bring him back, have someone like Hernandez twat him in the face with a chair to write him off TV again, then fire him. We'll all be a lot happier.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 24, 2011 14:53:26 GMT -5
I don't want Jeff to get clean, anymore than I want Lindsay Lohan to realise the error of her ways, or Charlie Sheen to see reason and logic.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 24, 2011 16:27:09 GMT -5
They shoulda fired his ass.
Not doing so is ridiculous on so many insane levels.
Him coming out high outta his mind on ppv should have been the last straw.
Then again, they're also the ones that let him come right through the curtain. Man, wrestling's a f***ed up business sometimes.
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Post by ANTLOL on Aug 24, 2011 19:21:38 GMT -5
wrestling's a f***ed up business sometimes. It has been for ages.
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Post by saintpat on Aug 24, 2011 23:02:38 GMT -5
Time for Hardy vs Sting in a Joker-off. Yes, their last match went so well. Definitely hotshot Jeff back into a main event spot. Yep, that's the way to do it.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 24, 2011 23:04:46 GMT -5
Well, it's not much of a spoiler now, as it's on the TNA website since this morning, probably yesterday, too:
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Post by Error on Aug 24, 2011 23:18:04 GMT -5
Well, it's not much of a spoiler now, as it's on the TNA website since this morning, probably yesterday, too: Yeah, I mentioned it earlier. They were forced into it thanks to him tweeting about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 23:19:33 GMT -5
Supposedly Jeff's gotten back on track a bit - kind of doubtful, heard that one plenty, but it's worth a shot. I wouldn't let him anywhere near the title scene, but he's too big of a star to have him losing every week to Kazarian or something.
Maybe he can be brought back in by Immortal to take down Anderson - when did I start thinking of him as that instead of Kennedy? - or something, I dunno. It's better than him being face or them doing a drug addiction storyline at least.
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