|
Post by Lance Uppercut on Oct 22, 2011 15:12:47 GMT -5
Horny meathead dudes cheer Kelly Kelly, and the Internet Moans.
Children, especially little girls cheer, AJ, and the Internet seems to like her.
It's like the Opposite of what's going on with Cena/Anyone from PG era and Punk/Anyone from Attitude Era as far as what their fan bases like.
|
|
Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 17,556
|
Post by Cronant on Oct 22, 2011 15:14:25 GMT -5
I don't think either get enough to be able to tell who's cheering. Seems like a blanket statement.
The reason you see with Cena is because its pretty obvious.
|
|
|
Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 22, 2011 15:46:55 GMT -5
I don't think either get enough to be able to tell who's cheering. Seems like a blanket statement. The reason you see with Cena is because its pretty obvious. Because in real life Cena is really Megabyte?
|
|
|
Post by Wolf Hurricane on Oct 22, 2011 15:50:49 GMT -5
That's the way "arguments" work; and that's just in general, not just with wrestling fans. People use fan reactions to say "see, they want them pushed, why won't the WWE push them," and then turn around and look down on the same reactions, either because their kids, they're cheering for who they want to smash, or worse, they just like someone because they're marks.
|
|
PKO
King Koopa
Posts: 12,636
|
Post by PKO on Oct 22, 2011 15:53:36 GMT -5
Yes but also:
AJ = talented and passionate about wrestling
Kelly = not so much...
|
|
|
Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Oct 22, 2011 16:45:02 GMT -5
Yes but also: AJ = talented and passionate about wrestling Kelly = not so much... I wouldn't take it that far. Based on the interviews and columns I've read about Kelly she is genuinely passionate about her wrestling career. Also of all the divas she has been around the longest. As for the talented part? Eh....you got me there.
|
|
H-Virus
Hank Scorpio
A Real Contagious Experience
Posts: 5,978
|
Post by H-Virus on Oct 22, 2011 16:47:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't take it that far. Based on the interviews and columns I've read about Kelly she is genuinely passionate about her wrestling career. Also of all the divas she has been around the longest. That's kind of sad, to think that of all the divas on the current roster, Kelly Kelly is now the veteran.
|
|
|
Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 22, 2011 16:52:09 GMT -5
It's like the Opposite of what's going on with Cena/Anyone from PG era and Punk/Anyone from Attitude Era as far as what their fan bases like. It works another way too: The Divas division is the only place in WWE where the smarks want to see the large, musclebound performers get the biggest pushes. EDIT: Oh, and I'd be really surprised if AJ's fanbase (or practically any diva's, really) isn't also comprised mainly of horny men, just like Kelly's.
|
|
|
Post by That Mickie Fan on Oct 22, 2011 16:59:13 GMT -5
There's a difference:
Kelly: Fails in wrestling
AJ: Awesome at Wrestling
|
|
BigWill
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 16,619
|
Post by BigWill on Oct 22, 2011 17:09:01 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what these statements are trying to prove. People don't dislike Kelly Kelly because horny men cheer her, and people don't like AJ just because children cheer her. I think it's just that people like who they like, and it's the people that over-analyze the whys is where the stereotyping comes from.
|
|
|
Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 22, 2011 17:13:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't take it that far. Based on the interviews and columns I've read about Kelly she is genuinely passionate about her wrestling career. Also of all the divas she has been around the longest. That's kind of sad, to think that of all the divas on the current roster, Kelly Kelly is now the veteran. How is it sad? Certainly, considering her skill level, it is rather inconvenient, but it isn't like she hasn't worked hard for it, by quantity if not quality; she's been in WWE since she was about 18, and she's probably the longest-tenured person in WWE currently who has never been been off the road for an extended period of time, even if it doesn't show in the ring. Mind you, despite being the longest tenured WWE Diva, she's also the second youngest WWE Diva (only two months older than AJ).
|
|
|
Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 22, 2011 17:13:59 GMT -5
There is a bit of bias though with the Kelly Kelly thing. Only dumb meatheads cheer Kelly Kelly.
As much as I dislike her, Kelly has incredible sympathy, which can be learned but I don't think Kelly is very good at learning things. So it seems to come natural with her.
As far as AJ goes, she does have a very wide appeal, which is definitely a positive, and she actually is pretty decent, so I'd see a big future for her. Maybe it's her J-Pop entrance.
With Cena, I think the main reason for the boos has been developed due to WWE deciding to keep pushing him after they started booing him in 2005. So now he may never get all of the audience.
|
|
queenbee
Don Corleone
bow down to the queen :)
Posts: 1,633
|
Post by queenbee on Oct 23, 2011 0:59:55 GMT -5
Yes but also: AJ = talented and passionate about wrestling Kelly = not so much... I wouldn't take it that far. Based on the interviews and columns I've read about Kelly she is genuinely passionate about her wrestling career. Also of all the divas she has been around the longest. As for the talented part? Eh....you got me there. Because Kelly still haz the stroke of Johnny Ace....... that is simply the reason why she is still there, and of course all the "men" she had been with who had the "strokes" I do not hate on K2, but watching her in the ring, I cringe. Esp. when she screams moar than she actually wrestles. I want AJ to be up there maybe feuding with Beth/Nattie
|
|
|
Post by celticjobber on Oct 23, 2011 1:05:55 GMT -5
There's a difference: Kelly: Fails in wrestling AJ: Awesome at Wrestling Honestly, I don't think Kelly is nearly as bad as most people say (although it is a bit ridiculous that she still can't run the ropes) and I think A.J.'s in-ring skills are highly over-rated.
|
|
|
Post by FailedGimmick on Oct 23, 2011 1:13:03 GMT -5
I like them both. So... yeah!
|
|
|
Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Oct 23, 2011 3:34:47 GMT -5
Kelly's been involved in wrestling for years and AJ has already surpassed her. It's just a simple "AJ is awesome, Kelly is not" kinda thing and has nothing to do with fan reaction.
|
|
|
Post by FailedGimmick on Oct 23, 2011 8:56:08 GMT -5
Wasn't AJ been in the independents for a while?
I kept hearing rave things about her long before she debuted on NXT.
Unless there's a different AJ Lee out there.
|
|
|
Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 23, 2011 9:13:41 GMT -5
Wasn't AJ been in the independents for a while? I kept hearing rave things about her long before she debuted on NXT. Unless there's a different AJ Lee out there. One in the same. Trained by Jay Lethal, wrestled in the Independents for a couple years before being signed to an FCW developmental contract. Actually, she is one of only two people to be signed to a developmental contract, the other being Darren Young; proof that WWE does know talent when they see it, they just screw the pooch with them for shits and giggles.
|
|
|
Post by FailedGimmick on Oct 23, 2011 9:17:23 GMT -5
Did not know Jay Lethal trained her. Did not know Jay Lethal was also a trainer.
|
|
|
Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 23, 2011 9:19:24 GMT -5
To be fair, I got that part from Wikipedia, which isn't the most reliable source in the world [citation needed].
|
|