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Post by ICBM on Oct 13, 2011 21:39:36 GMT -5
Nash was internet over in 98, 99 and 00. He would shoot sideways everytime he had a Mic and internet marks(myself included) loved seeing him on tv. I love this thread. It proves I am not a lone nut when I have called out Cena, Batista, HHH, Orton, HBK ect. Haters in here
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Oct 14, 2011 4:01:03 GMT -5
The Rock. Coming back for a cup of coffee this year actually lowered his stock for a lot of people. Generally, anybody that can still work full time but prefers to "tease" their fans with a cameo here or there gradually loses their popularity. This was sooo true the first time he came back. Now I think the IWC likes him because of the nostalgia, but when he came back the first time as Hollywood Rock every forum or article I saw talked about how played out his act was and how much he sucked in the ring. I remember Scott Keith tearing him apart on a weekly basis. The reason Kieth ripped Rock was because of his tired babyface act. Kieth loved Hollywood Rock and all of Rock's heel runs. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 14, 2011 4:13:26 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 14, 2011 8:52:10 GMT -5
I remember liking the Invasion storyline. Yea, it could have been better, but I don't think it was really Wrestlecrap. I loved the InVasion too, but that's not the point. Yeah, it was immensely entertaining, but the reason it's Wrestlecrap is that it should have been literally the biggest thing to ever happen in wrestling. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 14, 2011 8:55:01 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. Because he gets booked that way. I really don't think Taker chooses it. You can't just piss the streak away, and Taker is so protected now that a pointless job would be meaningless. |
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Post by CM Parish on Oct 14, 2011 10:15:41 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker The only time I really see Taker get bashed is during Wrestlemania season, when someone wants their current favorite wrestler to be the one to end his streak. That's because he ain't here apart from then. |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Oct 14, 2011 13:51:39 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. Why exactly should a well-establish veteran play Barry Horowitz for whoever's the flavor of the month? Back in Hogan's day, just having a MATCH against him was considered its own reward. A victory over a legend should mean something, and you should be semi-established before you do that. I'm sure those guys who won't put said wrestler over is alot more reasonable than many claim(he's too green, has a bad rep backstage, etc etc). Plus, it wouldn't make a difference in the smarks minds since they'll just find another reason to hate the guy. Thats why Randy Orton didn't need that victory over Hulk Hogan. |
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Post by cool guy on Oct 14, 2011 16:22:00 GMT -5
Some of you people seem to be ignoring the fact that the Undertaker has put over roughly one monster heel a year for the last decade. And honestly, his last few Wrestlemania victories have a been either against guys as established as him(HBK, Triple H) or current guys that he went on to have some great feuds with(Batista, Edge). I honestly don't see how anyone can ever remotely compare him to Triple H or Hulk Hogan.
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 14, 2011 16:43:22 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker I would have thought it'd be the opposite. Maybe not so much recently, but the guy used to be so boring and slow in the ring, prior to his return in 00. He really stepped it up then, and continued to up until the past couple years.. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Oct 14, 2011 17:27:49 GMT -5
The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. Because he gets booked that way. I really don't think Taker chooses it. You can't just piss the streak away, and Taker is so protected now that a pointless job would be meaningless. Beating the Undertaker should mean something, at this point defeating the Undertaker probably means more than winning a world title for the upcoming stars so should be kept for a moment when it there's significance in the loss. Plus he can put people over even while he’s winning the match, hell it’s arguable that somebody like Ziggler or Swagger narrowly losing a tough battle with the Undertaker would do more for their careers than their respective world title wins. Undertaker losing to guys like Khali and Kozlov on a regular basis doesn't help anybody. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 15, 2011 12:35:14 GMT -5
It's the Superman principle. There was a time in the 90s when every time a new criminal came along, he'd beat the shit out of Superman to make you think 'HOLY f*** HE BEAT SUPERMAN WHAT DO WE DO NOW?' But yeah. Doesn't work, it just pisses off the fans.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Oct 15, 2011 15:16:21 GMT -5
Don't know about the IWC loving the Rock back then. When he was in the main event (after 1999) they bitched about him to no end and pretty much didn't give him credit for anything. It wasn't until 2002 Raw turned into such a clusterf*** that opinons began to change and even then he doesn't get the kind of love that you'll see for Austin at times.
John Cena is a great example though. I never understood why people wanted him to be pushed when he was a heel doing spoken word poetry. Then I started watching Raw again around when Jericho came back for his second run and opinions seemed to be all over the place.
Bret Hart is another one but most of you will know why.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 15, 2011 15:24:21 GMT -5
This thread starts and ends with The Undertaker The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. Keep in mind that some wrestlers (Orton and JBL come to mind) are told they're going to go over UT, and they THEMSELVES veto it, and say they want to put Taker over. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 15, 2011 15:34:05 GMT -5
The Undertaker hate is well deserved, in my opinion. The guy already doesn't work house shows, and then on top of that typically sits on his ass for nine months out of the year not even doing TV. He then comes back, challenges whoever is on a hot streak at the moment, and completely annihilates them despite the fact that he's a broken heap who is well past his prime. I still can't believe Kane won their feud, because that typically never happens. I'm just saying, he's reached that point in his career where he should be putting the current generation of guys over, but for some reason their job has been laying on their backs for him. I don't understand the free pass so many people give him. He's just as bad as Hulk Hogan and Triple H. Keep in mind that some wrestlers (Orton and JBL come to mind) are told they're going to go over UT, and they THEMSELVES veto it, and say they want to put Taker over. That's true, but I highly doubt it's the case for everyone. Remember when Undertaker came back in 2009 and completely derailed CM Punk during his first run as a main-event heel, which had been going successfully? That's honestly the worst one I can think of in recent memory. |
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 15, 2011 16:56:04 GMT -5
Bret Hart. It seems like many fans stopped liking him after his return to WWE and the match with Vince.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 15, 2011 18:57:51 GMT -5
Keep in mind that some wrestlers (Orton and JBL come to mind) are told they're going to go over UT, and they THEMSELVES veto it, and say they want to put Taker over. That's true, but I highly doubt it's the case for everyone. Remember when Undertaker came back in 2009 and completely derailed CM Punk during his first run as a main-event heel, which had been going successfully? That's honestly the worst one I can think of in recent memory. Wasn't that when WWE were down on Punk for "not dressing like a champion"? |
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Post by moneyman20 on Oct 15, 2011 19:00:31 GMT -5
That's true, but I highly doubt it's the case for everyone. Remember when Undertaker came back in 2009 and completely derailed CM Punk during his first run as a main-event heel, which had been going successfully? That's honestly the worst one I can think of in recent memory. Wasn't that when WWE were down on Punk for "not dressing like a champion"? The story there is that Taker or someone told Punk that he needed to start dressing better as champion. Punk responded by saying "What about Cena?" which management took as Punk thinking he was a bigger star than Cena and that he had a bigger ego than they thought was warrented at the time...............................................allegedly. |
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Oct 16, 2011 5:37:13 GMT -5
Ugh so glad the SRS GUY heel in a suit era is over. You should dress like your gimmick, not 'like a champion' anyway.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 16, 2011 6:34:30 GMT -5
Wasn't that when WWE were down on Punk for "not dressing like a champion"? The story there is that Taker or someone told Punk that he needed to start dressing better as champion. Punk responded by saying "What about Cena?" which management took as Punk thinking he was a bigger star than Cena and that he had a bigger ego than they thought was warrented at the time...............................................allegedly. I don't think I've seen a single picture of a wrestler off-camera (minus at special events) where they're "dressed like a champion".* Hell, fanny packs are synonymous with wrestlers to me. *Except Jericho, he's always been stylish. |
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