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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Oct 13, 2011 3:11:08 GMT -5
I forgot when they started to switch to the joint PPV system... But I know I've always liked the brand-exclusive PPVs because it gave a lot of guys and girls in the roster a chance to perform on a pay-per-view. Ever since they went interbrand, it feels like we've been seeing the same performers on every show, only in different match-ups.
It probably isn't as marketable as their current system but dammit, at least midcarders and jobbers had a fighting chance to perform on TV during those times.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 13, 2011 3:24:20 GMT -5
Agreed.
Made the big four more special in that way, as they'd be the only ones you'd get matches from both shows on.
We can blame WWE's ECW on that.
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 13, 2011 3:24:30 GMT -5
Brand PPVs ran from Bad Blood in 2003 to No Way Out 2007.
I personally think the end of the brand PPVs was the original sin for the mid-card as once there wasn't an incentive to build guys up because they could stick two world title matches on every PPV, priority starting shifting away from giving everyone up and down the card something to do.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 13, 2011 5:22:11 GMT -5
For me, they resembled longer episodes of RAW and Smackdown.
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Post by CM Parish on Oct 13, 2011 6:29:13 GMT -5
You'd also get a special "big match feel" on the big PPV's when you got an inter-brand match which always be a huge match with good build. See Cena Vs Batista or (even though the match ABSOLUTELY SUCKED) Lesnar Vs Goldberg.
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Post by thirteen3 on Oct 13, 2011 6:30:36 GMT -5
I don't miss them at all.
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Post by redpyramidsh on Oct 13, 2011 7:50:23 GMT -5
Good idea on paper, they never got the "big" feel of it right though.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Oct 13, 2011 8:15:33 GMT -5
Brand PPVs ran from Bad Blood in 2003 to No Way Out 2007. I personally think the end of the brand PPVs was the original sin for the mid-card as once there wasn't an incentive to build guys up because they could stick two world title matches on every PPV, priority starting shifting away from giving everyone up and down the card something to do. The other thing I enjoyed was that the other brand would have a 'free-per-view" episode around the weekend of the other brand's PPV, as if to say "don't forget about us!" I loved the concept, but I'm guessing the paying fans complained too much about getting a PPV and not seeing their "favorites" on there...
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Post by Dean-o on Oct 13, 2011 8:28:26 GMT -5
Great idea, but the rosters are too small for such a thing anymore. It would just be a 3 hour Raw or Smackdown with no commercials.
Funny thing is, they made them crossbranded to increase buyrates, but they got worse anyways.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Oct 13, 2011 8:36:24 GMT -5
They got given 2 months to build most feuds into title matches. However, they ended up having a lot fo jobber matches on these shows anyway. Look for example at the Bashes from 2004-2006.
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Post by Cronant on Oct 13, 2011 8:48:20 GMT -5
Those were some empty cards, especially post Wrestlemania 2004. Coachman was almost a regular competitor on those RAW PPVs.
Its much better to leave midcarders off. It makes getting a PPV match a bigger deal.
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Post by 4real on Oct 13, 2011 12:20:32 GMT -5
I don't miss them at all. Same. At first they seemed a fairly good idea but once it got to 2004 the talent pool got worse and with so few big stars appearing on the PPV's it seemed a waste ordering them. Of course there were good single brand PPV's like Vengeance 2003 and 2005 and Armageddon 2006 but I usually remember the godawful one's like Judgment Day 2003 and GAB 2004 AND 2005.
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Post by agent817 on Oct 13, 2011 13:02:22 GMT -5
There were some that were actually good, but that isn't saying a lot. Some of the best ones were the following Raw- Vengeance 2005, Unforgiven 2006, Taboo Tuesday 2005 (The best one of the Taboo Tuesday/Cyber Sunday series). Smackdown- No Way Out 2006, No Mercy 2006, Judgment Day 2005, Vengeance 2003.
Of course, some people look back on these with nostalgia and have the nostalgia overshadow how good they actually were.
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Post by woowoowoox on Oct 13, 2011 13:13:17 GMT -5
I really miss them. Between them being once a month and exclusive to each show, it gave plenty of build up for everything.
Now it's the same people on the same PPV in the same matches TWICE a month. Ridiculous. I haven't purchased a PPV (barring WrestleMania) since 2007 because IMO there's no point.
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Post by machomuta on Oct 13, 2011 13:28:32 GMT -5
I really miss them. Between them being once a month and exclusive to each show, it gave plenty of build up for everything. Now it's the same people on the same PPV in the same matches TWICE a month. Ridiculous. Agree 100%. Couldnt have said any better myself.
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Post by Cam on Oct 13, 2011 13:45:40 GMT -5
Add this to the list of stuff everyone used to hate but now love/miss.
The only benefit of brand only PPVs was lower card guys got onto the PPV. Apart from that, I don't miss them at all.
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Post by thegame415 on Oct 13, 2011 13:56:11 GMT -5
It all depended who was on what roster at the time. Smackdown's roster post WM 20 was rather weak, as indicated by the PPV's.
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Post by Red Impact on Oct 13, 2011 14:03:55 GMT -5
Good idea in theory, but usually weren't executed that well. The build for the month often consisted of the GM walking out and making the same match for the PPV as the previous one. They did give more people to do, but they didn't really capitalize on it as much at the top.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 14:12:09 GMT -5
I hated them for the most part. For every great show like Vengeance 2005 or Unforgiven 2006 there were many others with a World title match, a semi main event and then the rest of the card filled up with Sunday Night Heat level matches.
Some of the matches we were subjected to on PPV during this era:
Rodney Mack & Christopher Nowinski vs. The Dudley’s Jamie Noble vs. Billy Gunn Basham Brothers vs. APA Hardcore Holly vs. Rhyno Jonathan Coachman vs. Tajiri Rico & Charlie Haas vs. Hardcore Holly & Billy Gunn Luther Reigns vs. Charlie Haas Tomko vs. Stevie Richards Christy Hemme vs. Carmella DeCesare Funaki vs. Spike Dudley Orlando Jordan vs. Heidenreich Simon Dean vs. Bobby Lashley Jerry Lawler vs. Gregory Helms Viscera vs. Shelton Benjamin MVP vs. a local jobber (not even making this up) The Boogeyman vs. The Miz
I think WWE’s PPV’s have generally been of much higher quality since 2007 when they ended the brand-exclusive PPV’s.
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Post by machomuta on Oct 13, 2011 14:25:35 GMT -5
The only benefit of brand only PPVs was lower card guys got onto the PPV . Wrong! It also gave them more time to build up storylines.
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