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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 20, 2011 8:44:21 GMT -5
I can't stand Kelly Kelly, in fact she's my least favourite person on the roster.
And it's not even the fact that she can't wrestle. It's because she has no personality whatsoever. Maryse isn't a good wrestler but I'm a fan of her because she actually has some personality and a fun character.
Besides, why exactly am I meant to cheer for Kelly Kelly when I agree with Beth & Natalya wanting to bring some respect back to the womens division?
She's honestly my least favourite person on the roster at the moment.
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Post by MGH on Sept 20, 2011 8:47:23 GMT -5
Problem being everything she does looks sloppy and I don't care how many times they force me to watch her beating Nattie and Beth, because they aren't making me buy it at all. I don't think she looks sloppy at all except for the backflip elbow which everyone looks sloppy on. Agree to disagree then. I cringe watching her work with Beth because Beth has to slow down and guide her through everything she's trying to do. |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Sept 20, 2011 8:53:28 GMT -5
She's absolute garbage but can just about walk upright nowadays compared to how she used to be which for some reason seems to qualify her for a free pass in the eyes of a few people. The WWE or anyone else saying she's a great wrestler because she keeps winning doesn't make it at all so. Otherwise I might go around calling myself the King of the Moon 'til people start believing it.
EDIT - LET BE KNOWN - I AM KING OF THE MOON
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Post by Cam on Sept 20, 2011 8:53:34 GMT -5
Wow, she can't run the ropes properly and she's a bit slow. Wow, worst wrestler in the world right there.... Her moves are garbage (stinkface, that ridiculous headscissors where she screams for 5 seconds and that awful leg drop finisher she has), she needs to have the other person slow the match down in order for her to get them off, and she doesnt know how to run the ropes. She sucks. You cant even say "well, shes good for a model" because more importantly, for a wrestler, she sucks. So basically exactly what I just said, but in different wording. Kelly is currently going through the Cena phase of hate. Eventually people will look back and say "Huh, I can't believe I hated her that much then. Kelly Kelly hate is sooooo 2011!". |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Sept 20, 2011 8:56:45 GMT -5
Her moves are garbage (stinkface, that ridiculous headscissors where she screams for 5 seconds and that awful leg drop finisher she has), she needs to have the other person slow the match down in order for her to get them off, and she doesnt know how to run the ropes. She sucks. You cant even say "well, shes good for a model" because more importantly, for a wrestler, she sucks. So basically exactly what I just said, but in different wording. Kelly is currently going through the Cena phase of hate. Eventually people will look back and say "Huh, I can't believe I hated her that much then. Kelly Kelly hate is sooooo 2011!". People hated Cena's character and the way he was booked. People dislike Kelly Kelly because she has absolutely no personality and can't wrestle. Difference between Cena and Kelly is Cena is actually a pretty top class wrestler in every sense of the word. The likelihood of Kelly Kelly grasping the schematics and basic science of how to do things in a remotely correct manner seem about as likely as a wrestling toilet debuting on RAW next week. |
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Post by Cam on Sept 20, 2011 9:03:45 GMT -5
So basically exactly what I just said, but in different wording. Kelly is currently going through the Cena phase of hate. Eventually people will look back and say "Huh, I can't believe I hated her that much then. Kelly Kelly hate is sooooo 2011!". People hated Cena's character and the way he was booked. People dislike Kelly Kelly because she has absolutely no personality and can't wrestle. Difference between Cena and Kelly is Cena is actually a pretty top class wrestler in every sense of the word. The likelihood of Kelly Kelly grasping the schematics and basic science of how to do things in a remotely correct manner seem about as likely as a wrestling toilet debuting on RAW next week. People also said Cena can't wrestle. Don't get me wrong, Kelly Kelly is nowhere near comparable to Cena in the ring. Cena IS top class, Kelly needs a lot of work. But they're the same criticisms. Isn't Kelly not showing personality the way she is booked also? Has Kelly ever had the chance to show some personality? Not really. She's basically just nameless faceless white blonde Diva who the fans cheer for because she's a white blonde Diva. And she's hot. That's it really. Kelly's character and charisma are much more questionable than her in-ring ability. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 20, 2011 9:18:30 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly had some personality for about 3 weeks with that mini-feud with Vickie Guerrero, but the emotion chip must have malfunctioned or something.
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Post by comahan on Sept 20, 2011 9:20:50 GMT -5
Highly disagree. She's improved over what she used to be, but she's still no where near 'good'.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 9:26:52 GMT -5
Kelly is a case of low expectations. You start by saying "just dance around and shake your ass or something". She does that marginally, and so they rocket her to the top of the division. Thing is, while some of the things she does in the ring are slightly better than they were years ago, but in WWE being a "good wrestler" isn't enough to warrant a push, or so we hear when someone is brought in who can work but can't talk or doesn't have "the look".
Kelly has the look they want, right down to the vacant stare that makes me wonder if she's on something. She can't cut a promo that doesn't sound like a junior high school argument, and while there has been some in-ring improvement, she's been there for five years.
Set the expectations low, keep the there, and that will justify the push if she can go beyond getting worse. I promise you, if they brought any guy up from developmental and he showed the same "ability" on the mic and in the ring, he'd be lucky to get five TV matches before being released.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 20, 2011 9:38:26 GMT -5
Honestly, its that look that makes her completely unappealing to me. I just don't get it.
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Post by Celgress on Sept 20, 2011 11:00:48 GMT -5
Problem being everything she does looks sloppy and I don't care how many times they force me to watch her beating Nattie and Beth, because they aren't making me buy it at all. this |
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Post by jadison on Sept 20, 2011 11:52:15 GMT -5
Problem being everything she does looks sloppy and I don't care how many times they force me to watch her beating Nattie and Beth, because they aren't making me buy it at all. Exactly. If her technique was better I could buy into her being a great wrestler that can out smart a bigger stronger opponent. The thing wrong with this is that Beth and Natalya consistently show more strength AND technique than Kelly, so its hard to buy it. |
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Post by BigWill on Sept 20, 2011 12:16:56 GMT -5
To be fair even in real life, people that are "sloppy" or not quite smooth with their technique have been known to best people that by all means were stronger, faster and more skilled than they are. Fables featuring such a trope have been around for centuries, it happens in boxing, mma and in many other aspects of everyday life. Just because you don't buy that someone can defeat someone seen as superior doesn't mean they can't. Maybe if Kelly Kelly had at least a few impactful move in her arsenal, I could buy this argument, but seeing as how every single one of her moves are low impact and meant as eye candy, the fact that they're sloppy just makes her look like she shouldn't be able to beat up a 12 year old, let alone someone like Beth. |
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Post by Magnum Opus on Sept 20, 2011 12:31:10 GMT -5
Her finisher was good enough for Marty Jannetty and WCW era Shannon Moore. A finisher she hasn't actually beat Beth with. Which I think is a big part of the problem, the piss poor endings aren't doing anything to actually push that she is a good (kayfabe) wrestler. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 20, 2011 13:29:06 GMT -5
She went from absolutely terrible to nearly mediocre.
Get Finlay back and put him back in chage of the Divas division.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 13:58:07 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly is a good "sports entertainer", which is what matters to WWE.
And meh, I can honestly say I've never enjoyed a Beth Phoenix match as much as I have her last 2 PPV's with Kelly.
As for the running the ropes thing. If she’s doing it whatever way she does it and it’s not hurting her or her opponent then it’s not an issue to me.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 20, 2011 14:04:25 GMT -5
If you really look between the lines that is the entire point of this angle. Kelly Kelly is proving that she isn't just some perky little barbie princess, she's proving that she is a wrestler and she can out wrestle both Beth and Natalya (kayfabe). Like John Cena she is proving to be a fighting champion full of the heart and determination needed to dig down deep and pull out the victory in the face of adversary. She has found counters to every precarious position the DoD have put her in and she has used her skills to overcome the odds... Unlike Cena though, Kelly looks like a stiff breeze would break her in half. It just isn't credible for her, or Eve, to constantly be getting wins over DOD. And by pushing Kelly, it's having a detrimental effect on Neidhart and Phoenix. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 14:07:42 GMT -5
Honestly, if a hotter woman came up in development, she could have Kelly Kelly's spot just like that. She's fine for what she is but I wouldn't qualify her as a good wrestler; she has the versatility of a waffle iron.
No harm, no foul but let's be honest: if she decided to retire tomorrow, it's not like WWE would have to scramble to find a replacement.
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Post by anglarite on Sept 20, 2011 15:15:02 GMT -5
Sorry, but if you can flash a genuine smile, you're already ten times as entertaining as Kelly Kelly. Seriously, I would prefer to listen to Michael Cole calling Daniel Bryan a nerd and bashing him for hours than listen to Kelly's wailing of "come on... <insert tag partner name>" over and over or her screaming like a banshee at every move she does. I prefer to watch Sharmell vs Jenna Morasca over and over remixed with Triple H and Katie Vick than watch Kelly wrestle. And I honestly think if the Divas of Doom would be fired right now (and I love them) they still would have more dignity than jobbing to a woman whose biggest achievement so far happened in the domain of urination.
And please stop saying the NotC match justified anything. It seems if Beth dominates K2 for most of the match and then Kelly rolls her up, it's "a good match showing how talented she is"; but if Mark Henry would have dominated Randy for most of the match only to be rolled up, you would scream bloody murder. Just because we have lower expectations for Diva matches, it doesn't mean they are allowed to suck and be badly booked.
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Post by dlg3000 on Sept 20, 2011 15:18:43 GMT -5
Kelly on her own is barely entertaining. She needs someone to make her look good, like Beth Phoenix. Having said that, she has some redeeming value, despite being a poor worker.
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