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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 3, 2012 18:42:16 GMT -5
So, what exactly was the point of spending several years turning Richard Rider from one of the New Warriors into one of the most awesome characters in the entire universe if you're just going to kill him off to let Loeb continue to grieve for his son? Couldn't they just have created a new character for that? ONE THAT WASN'T RICHARD RIDER?!?!?! But his journey was over, blah blah, he died a hero, blah blah, new characters are fun, blah blah, this one has cross over appeal to kids, blah blah. I'm gonna miss Rich too Yup. Richard Rider was one of my absolute favorite comic characters, from The New Warriors(such an underrated team, but then, I'm a Speedball mark) all the way through to his solo series a few years back. This new Nova perplexes and annoys me.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 3, 2012 18:53:41 GMT -5
I'm not digging most of the new Marvel character designs. They look far too New 52-ish for me. If they wanted to change up Cap, Iron Man, and Thor, I have no idea why they wouldn't just use their costumes from the movie. At least those look good.
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Post by doel on Jul 3, 2012 19:22:37 GMT -5
I've not read a Marvel book since i re jumped onto comics a few years ago i've always been a DC fan going as far back as the early 1990's (I still have the first comic i ever read Flash Vol 2 #78) . I have always wanted to try and re jump into a book but i simply haven't known where to start well come October i'm going to give a few books a chance.
I'm not a DC Fan as in i won't give other companies a chance though, if you can put an entertaining book in front of me i'll entertain the idea of reading it and giving it a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 19:28:17 GMT -5
Un-canny Avengers-- So X-force and The Avengers are merging?
As long as Remender continues to write Psylocke I can't really complain untill he royally screws up.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jul 3, 2012 19:31:54 GMT -5
I've always been more of a Marvel guy so this intrigues me
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Post by knightrider01 on Jul 3, 2012 19:35:48 GMT -5
I've not read a Marvel book since i re jumped onto comics a few years ago i was always a DC fan going as far back as the early 1990's (I still have first comic i read Flash Vol 2 #78) . I have always wanted to try and re jump into a book but i simply haven't known where to start well come October i'm going to give a few books a chance. I'm not a DC Fan as in i won't give other companies a chance though, if you can put an entertaining book in front of me i'll entertain the idea of reading it and giving it a chance. Read anything that is Animal Man/Swamp Thing, Frankenstein agent of shade, aquaman, flash, green lantern or so many other DC titles.
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Post by doel on Jul 3, 2012 19:43:51 GMT -5
I've not read a Marvel book since i re jumped onto comics a few years ago i was always a DC fan going as far back as the early 1990's (I still have first comic i read Flash Vol 2 #78) . I have always wanted to try and re jump into a book but i simply haven't known where to start well come October i'm going to give a few books a chance. I'm not a DC Fan as in i won't give other companies a chance though, if you can put an entertaining book in front of me i'll entertain the idea of reading it and giving it a chance. Read anything that is Animal Man/Swamp Thing, Frankenstein agent of shade, aquaman, flash, green lantern or so many other DC titles. I'm a DC reader i posted a list of what i read but it's been adjusted a little since then. Swamp Thing is probably my favourite book since the launch of the New 52. Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Action Comics and Aquaman are the titles i read each and every month and count down the next 28 days till the next Issue. Flash still holds a place in my heart though going back years and years it was the first Super Hero that caught my imagination in my youth. I should really said come October i'll be trying out Marvel with it's relaunch.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 3, 2012 20:36:18 GMT -5
Jeph Loeb being a manchild who can't put personal tragedies behind him aside, the really stupid thing about this new Nova character is that if they wanted a new Nova, they had a perfectly serviceable character for the role in Robbie Rider.
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Post by Legion on Jul 4, 2012 8:19:19 GMT -5
I wouldnt be so against Sam Alexander is I got Rich Ryder as well. A Nova book featuring Rich as Nova Prime mentoring this new kid I'd be fine with.0
But this whole thing just reeks of Loeb wanting to bring his kid back to life via a character, which I'd think was creepy but be fine with if it was a new character, but not one that's replacing one of my favourite guys
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2012 8:26:31 GMT -5
I wouldnt be so against Sam Alexander is I got Rich Ryder as well. A Nova book featuring Rich as Nova Prime mentoring this new kid I'd be fine with.0 But this whole thing just reeks of Loeb wanting to bring his kid back to life via a character, which I'd think was creepy but be fine with if it was a new character, but not one that's replacing one of my favourite guys it WORKED when Geoff Johns basically made his deceased little sister into Star-Spangled Kid 2/Stargirl (WHERE THE HELL IS SHE DC? eh she's a Johns pet character, I'm sure she'll be back) but it worked because he didn't beat people over the head with it the way Jeph Loeb does (and this isn't the first time Loeb's done this either. remember kids, Ultimate Iron Man's entire origin got retconned and he only became Iron Man because of Sam the littlest cancer patient). also, Johns was smart enough to use a legacy that was completely ignored and didn't have a beloved hero in the role barely a year ago. writers forcing their family members into roles that belong to beloved and established characters just feels like terrible mary sue fanfic (see also Carlie Quesada Cooper - yeah apparently Quesadilla wants his daughter to f*** Spider-man)
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Post by Legion on Jul 4, 2012 8:40:37 GMT -5
Using a living relative's name is fine, if anything it's kinda cool and if I was Carlie Quesada I'd probably mark out to see my name every few weeks, plus she was a new character and it isnt like we all know Peter will eventually get back with MJ, Slott seems to think so anyway.
But yeah, with Loeb, I'm sorry, maybe I'd be less pissed about it if it wasn't a favourite of mine, but I just really hate how he's doing it. I wish he'd just stayed at DC
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 4, 2012 12:42:01 GMT -5
I wouldnt be so against Sam Alexander is I got Rich Ryder as well. A Nova book featuring Rich as Nova Prime mentoring this new kid I'd be fine with.0 But this whole thing just reeks of Loeb wanting to bring his kid back to life via a character, which I'd think was creepy but be fine with if it was a new character, but not one that's replacing one of my favourite guys it WORKED when Geoff Johns basically made his deceased little sister into Star-Spangled Kid 2/Stargirl (WHERE THE HELL IS SHE DC? eh she's a Johns pet character, I'm sure she'll be back) Ah, back when Geoff Johns still wrote comic books and not silver age fanfics. I miss those times.
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Post by Legion on Jul 4, 2012 12:46:00 GMT -5
Just to get the topic away from writer bashing, anyone read AvX 7 today?
Wakanda gonna get f***ed up!
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jul 4, 2012 16:26:49 GMT -5
I've not read a Marvel book since i re jumped onto comics a few years ago i've always been a DC fan going as far back as the early 1990's (I still have the first comic i ever read Flash Vol 2 #78) . I have always wanted to try and re jump into a book but i simply haven't known where to start well come October i'm going to give a few books a chance. I'm not a DC Fan as in i won't give other companies a chance though, if you can put an entertaining book in front of me i'll entertain the idea of reading it and giving it a chance. Venom. Just Venom.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2012 19:48:21 GMT -5
Just to get the topic away from writer bashing, anyone read AvX 7 today? Wakanda gonna get f***ed up! as someone who enjoys seeing Racebating McMartyStu get his comeuppance, i approve.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 4, 2012 19:50:44 GMT -5
I've not read a Marvel book since i re jumped onto comics a few years ago i've always been a DC fan going as far back as the early 1990's (I still have the first comic i ever read Flash Vol 2 #78) . I have always wanted to try and re jump into a book but i simply haven't known where to start well come October i'm going to give a few books a chance. I'm not a DC Fan as in i won't give other companies a chance though, if you can put an entertaining book in front of me i'll entertain the idea of reading it and giving it a chance. Venom. Just Venom. this x1000. I liked Eddie and I LOVED Mac Gargan as venom, but Flash is far and away my favorite. it's amazing how Remender took what seemed like a dumb idea on paper and did such an awesome job with it. Cullen Bunn's stuff's been pretty good since he took over, too. this book even caused me to break my Spider-boycott and buy the Spider Island trade just because it has 4 issues of Venom in it (though teasing Peter and MJ getting back together and dumping on Carlie Sue helped too).
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 4, 2012 21:04:57 GMT -5
this x1000. I liked Eddie and I LOVED Mac Gargan as venom, but Flash is far and away my favorite. it's amazing how Remender took what seemed like a dumb idea on paper and did such an awesome job with it. Cullen Bunn's stuff's been pretty good since he took over, too. this book even caused me to break my Spider-boycott and buy the Spider Island trade just because it has 4 issues of Venom in it (though teasing Peter and MJ getting back together and dumping on Carlie Sue helped too). Spider-Island was a perfect demonstration of how badass and awesome Flash!Venom really is.
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Post by stinger on Jul 4, 2012 23:57:27 GMT -5
So, I picked up the first 2 trades of Y:The Last Man. Freaking amazing. I wanted to check it out because I am really digging Brian K. Vaughn's new series Saga, but I think Y:TLM is even better. Can't wait to get the rest of the series.
Also, re: AvX Rd. 7. Screw the X-Men. So sick of Cyclops's messiah complex already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 10:06:13 GMT -5
HUGE news for DC. Detective Comics is getting a new writer and artist.And its John FREAKIN' Layman (writer of Chew). I haven't read a Batman comic since the 90's, but I'll definitely have to give the franchise another shot in October with this madcap dude on board. Hopefully he takes the comic in a new direction.
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Post by Legion on Jul 5, 2012 10:10:20 GMT -5
Marvel equally have announced that New Avengers will be surviving the upcoming switch around, but will have the creative team of the past few years Cap books, Hickman and Epting.
That gives Hickman 3 Avengers books a month, and supposedly plans that plot out up to issue 63!
With a cast of at least 18 on the bi weekly Avengers, and now a New Avengers book, one can only hope that we see some of the older and less used Avengers, like Sersi, Hercules and Black Knight, back on at least one team somewhere!
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