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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 22, 2011 18:41:16 GMT -5
What's G-Rilla doing in the NXT Zone?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Dec 22, 2011 18:43:47 GMT -5
Honestly it likely wouldn't have made any difference whether they announced it or not. Still kind of harsh to punish the guy for something like that unless they explicitly told him not to tell anybody about it.
Then again Brodus should've known better than to try and announce something ahead of time in the world of WWE where booking changes from second to second.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 22, 2011 18:46:28 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Twitter is the single worse thing that has happened to the industry since the death of WCW. Yeah, no. First of all, Twitter has its bad and good. Second of all, Chris Benoit. I'll give you the Benoit point, but I strongly contest the other.  Twitter has caused lots of trouble for many different pro wrestlers since its' introduction, there is no contesting that. |
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Post by navv1 on Dec 22, 2011 18:48:26 GMT -5
I hope the same applies to Skip Sheffield/Ryback with the tweets he posted a couple of days ago...basically telling everyone his Ryback character would return and quoting "It begins"...
Yep yep yep wut it do
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Post by Cronant on Dec 22, 2011 18:49:02 GMT -5
Honestly it likely wouldn't have made any difference whether they announced it or not. Still kind of harsh to punish the guy for something like that unless they explicitly told him not to tell anybody about it. Then again Brodus should've known better than to try and announce something ahead of time in the world of WWE where booking changes from second to second. Its utterly stupid to spoil your debut (comeback) on twitter before it happens. Its got nothing to do with WWE changing their minds. Kharma, Sin Cara, and Kane all got video packages leading up to their appearances this year. Even then, they all actually showed up somewhat surprisingly, and ALL had people talking about it after the fact. Neither of the three were dumb enough to tweet when they were showing up and against who. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 22, 2011 18:52:03 GMT -5
Well, now that BullshitReport is saying that Brodus will not debut, I expect him this Monday in Chicago.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Dec 22, 2011 19:12:40 GMT -5
Honestly it likely wouldn't have made any difference whether they announced it or not. Still kind of harsh to punish the guy for something like that unless they explicitly told him not to tell anybody about it. Then again Brodus should've known better than to try and announce something ahead of time in the world of WWE where booking changes from second to second. Its utterly stupid to spoil your debut (comeback) on twitter before it happens. Its got nothing to do with WWE changing their minds. Kharma, Sin Cara, and Kane all got video packages leading up to their appearances this year. Even then, they all actually showed up somewhat surprisingly, and ALL had people talking about it after the fact. Neither of the three were dumb enough to tweet when they were showing up and against who. To be fair though they did jerk the guy around constantly. They kept promising he would debut only to change their minds. Then they pushed it to next week only to extend the wait even longer. I would've been frustrated after being treated like that too. The WWE wonders why they can't get anybody over despite constantly pulling bait and switches like this. Heck, there was one show where they promised three different things and didn't deliver a single one of them: The aforementioned Brodus debut, the Michael Cole Challenge, and a Triple H appearance. And we didn't get any of those things. Not to mention when they advertised some guest host only to change their minds without a single mention the very next week. It doesn't make it right, but it does explain why he may have done it: to try and force them to followthrough with their booking plans. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 22, 2011 19:16:56 GMT -5
Yeah, no. First of all, Twitter has its bad and good. Second of all, Chris Benoit. I'll give you the Benoit point, but I strongly contest the other. Twitter has caused lots of trouble for many different pro wrestlers since its' introduction, there is no contesting that. I don't think it's Twitter's fault that wrestlers are exposing themselves more. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. I mean Matt Hardy for example had problems well before he went on Twitter and YouTube, all they did was allow us to see the idiot he is easier than before. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 22, 2011 19:20:47 GMT -5
I'll give you the Benoit point, but I strongly contest the other. Twitter has caused lots of trouble for many different pro wrestlers since its' introduction, there is no contesting that. I don't think it's Twitter's fault that wrestlers are exposing themselves more. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. I mean Matt Hardy for example had problems well before he went on Twitter and YouTube, all they did was allow us to see the idiot he is easier than before. ^Pretty much. Twitter doesn't just suddenly make people stupid. It just gives them a more accessible outlet to showcase their stupidity. |
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Post by Celgress on Dec 22, 2011 19:26:50 GMT -5
I'll give you the Benoit point, but I strongly contest the other. Twitter has caused lots of trouble for many different pro wrestlers since its' introduction, there is no contesting that. I don't think it's Twitter's fault that wrestlers are exposing themselves more. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. I mean Matt Hardy for example had problems well before he went on Twitter and YouTube, all they did was allow us to see the idiot he is easier than before. No, but the platform to easily & conveniently reach millions of people within an instant and a few keystrokes is something relatively new. Sadly, many pro wrestlers have proven themselves unable, unwilling or both to treat the medium responsibly. Thus I stand by my original statement. |
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Post by Cronant on Dec 22, 2011 19:27:56 GMT -5
Its utterly stupid to spoil your debut (comeback) on twitter before it happens. Its got nothing to do with WWE changing their minds. Kharma, Sin Cara, and Kane all got video packages leading up to their appearances this year. Even then, they all actually showed up somewhat surprisingly, and ALL had people talking about it after the fact. Neither of the three were dumb enough to tweet when they were showing up and against who. To be fair though they did jerk the guy around constantly. They kept promising he would debut only to change their minds. Then they pushed it to next week only to extend the wait even longer. I would've been frustrated after being treated like that too. The WWE wonders why they can't get anybody over despite constantly pulling bait and switches like this. Heck, there was one show where they promised three different things and didn't deliver a single one of them: The aforementioned Brodus debut, the Michael Cole Challenge, and a Triple H appearance. And we didn't get any of those things. Not to mention when they advertised some guest host only to change their minds without a single mention the very next week. It doesn't make it right, but it does explain why he may have done it: to try and force them to followthrough with their booking plans. No, it doesn't explain anything. Again, even if they moved it back, you don't go and spoil it. And back when he did it that was still pretty early on in the "Brodus will show up this week" cycle. Its just common sense. Especially if they're actually giving you video packages hyping you up. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 22, 2011 19:29:40 GMT -5
I don't think it's Twitter's fault that wrestlers are exposing themselves more. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. I mean Matt Hardy for example had problems well before he went on Twitter and YouTube, all they did was allow us to see the idiot he is easier than before. No, but the platform to easily & conveniently reach millions of people within an instant and a few keystrokes is something relatively new. Sadly, many pro wrestlers have proven themselves unable, unwilling or both to treat the medium responsibly. Thus I stand by my original statement. To be fair, wouldn't that make the fact that most wrestlers are f***ing stupid the worst thing to happen to business? |
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Post by Celgress on Dec 22, 2011 19:31:00 GMT -5
No, but the platform to easily & conveniently reach millions of people within an instant and a few keystrokes is something relatively new. Sadly, many pro wrestlers have proven themselves unable, unwilling or both to treat the medium responsibly. Thus I stand by my original statement. To be fair, wouldn't that make the fact that most wrestlers are f***ing stupid the worst thing to happen to business? being f***ing stupid combined with Twitter usage, you betcha  |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 22, 2011 19:37:07 GMT -5
I don't think it's Twitter's fault that wrestlers are exposing themselves more. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. I mean Matt Hardy for example had problems well before he went on Twitter and YouTube, all they did was allow us to see the idiot he is easier than before. No, but the platform to easily & conveniently reach millions of people within an instant and a few keystrokes is something relatively new. Sadly, many pro wrestlers have proven themselves unable, unwilling or both to treat the medium responsibly. Thus I stand by my original statement. But, it's not new. Before Twitter it was Facebook, before FB it was, MySpace, before that it was personal chatrooms/websites, hell, we cannot forget YouTube. Before all that, things would have stayed a local issue and a few hundred to thousand would know thanks to the local media and the newsletters. It's not the ease of access that is the problem, it's people not being able to act like grown ass men and women that is the issue. |
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Post by Celgress on Dec 22, 2011 19:47:42 GMT -5
No, but the platform to easily & conveniently reach millions of people within an instant and a few keystrokes is something relatively new. Sadly, many pro wrestlers have proven themselves unable, unwilling or both to treat the medium responsibly. Thus I stand by my original statement. But, it's not new. Before Twitter it was Facebook, before FB it was, MySpace, before that it was personal chatrooms/websites, hell, we cannot forget YouTube. Before all that, things would have stayed a local issue and a few hundred to thousand would know thanks to the local media and the newsletters. It's not the ease of access that is the problem, it's people not being able to act like grown ass men and women that is the issue. I still contend Twitter, and its' micro-blogging style, is a more convenient, easy & accessible platform than the others you mentioned. That, because of its' very nature, can reach more people, more quickly and with more ease than any of other platform yet popularized. Also because messages, or tweets, are only 140 characters or less not only can people make mistakes so much easier they can also be far more frank they they'd otherwise would be, while attempting to not lose the essential nature of their point. |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 22, 2011 19:50:17 GMT -5
I'm still not understanding. Why is, what I'm gathering, a tweet that says not much more than "I'm gonna be on Raw tonight" going to get someone in trouble?
Do they want people to tune in and have no idea what's going on? Are they changing plans the day of?
I honestly don't understand this.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Dec 22, 2011 21:29:03 GMT -5
I'm still not understanding. Why is, what I'm gathering, a tweet that says not much more than "I'm gonna be on Raw tonight" going to get someone in trouble? Do they want people to tune in and have no idea what's going on? Are they changing plans the day of? I honestly don't understand this. Brodus didn't just say he was going to be on Raw. He said he was going to be the one to take Morrison out. In the Entertainment Business in general, it's a big no-no to give away plots of/stories/etc for whatever your involved in. Spoiling your own debut is idiotic, and if they were to let this go by unnoticed, who's to say Brodus wouldn't do the same thing again in the future involving any other developments? |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 22, 2011 21:32:13 GMT -5
I hope the same applies to Skip Sheffield/Ryback with the tweets he posted a couple of days ago...basically telling everyone his Ryback character would return and quoting "It begins"... Yep yep yep wut it do There's a difference between saying I'm returning and actually giving away storyline details. Brodus did the later. That'd be like Barrett tweeting that he's going to do something major at Fatal Four Way. So, he says he's going to do something major at Fatal Four Way. That, to me, isn't giving away anything. That sounds like a wrestler hyping up the PPV so people can tune into see what he does. Unless he blabs exactly what's going to go down, which I'm seeing from Brodus Clay. Ahhhhh. Much clearer. Yeah. He dun goofed. |
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Post by crimsonwolf on Dec 22, 2011 21:36:24 GMT -5
There's a difference between saying I'm returning and actually giving away storyline details. Brodus did the later. That'd be like Barrett tweeting that he's going to do something major at Fatal Four Way. So, he says he's going to do something major at Fatal Four Way. That, to me, isn't giving away anything. That sounds like a wrestler hyping up the PPV so people can tune into see what he does. Unless he blabs exactly what's going to go down, which I'm seeing from Brodus Clay. Ahhhhh. Much clearer. Yeah. He dun goofed. With my Barrett example I meant to elaborate what if Barrett spoiled the formation of Nexus.  But yeah, I can't help but get the feeling as well that Brodus is getting the "make an example out of you" type punishment. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 22, 2011 21:37:10 GMT -5
people really need to stop paying attention to Bleacher Report
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Twitter has caused lots of trouble for many different pro wrestlers since its' introduction, there is no contesting that.
