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Post by 543Y2J on Dec 16, 2011 18:48:15 GMT -5
Now I know 4 hours does seem like a lot, but when you get down to actual in ring action it can be considered a lot less than that.
Taking out time for interviews, opening and closing video packages, match video packages and entrances, I think it rounds it to about 3 hours to 3 hours 15 minutes just through a calculated guess.
Using WM26 as an example. I view that card as a supercard with 4 main events, unfortunetly I dont feel the lower card got enough time to really showcase the matches. I still view that Mania as decent to good but I felt it would have been benifited to time being alloted to both the midcard and main event matches.
With Rock and Cena this year I can take a guess and say it could be up to a 20 to 30 minute match, depending on how they want to book it. No other main events, nevermind under and midcard matches have been added to the card yet (except from the potential DB MITB cash in match)
Im not saying that it should be 5 or 6 hours long, but I feel an extra 15, 30 or 45 minutes will benefit the under/midcard matches massively (while still being able to have the elaborate entrances and video packages)
EDIT: After adding together all the match times or 26 it came out as 187:52 minutes of ring action. Which is actually a lot more than I expected with all the matches running over 10 minutes (except from the divas match which was 9.26). Which isnt really that bad atall when you compare it to WM27
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Post by moneyman20 on Dec 16, 2011 18:55:03 GMT -5
Get rid of some of the sketches and if you have interviews, reduce their length and 4 hours is more than enough.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Dec 16, 2011 19:02:10 GMT -5
No, it doesn't need to be longer.
This years Mania had 119:41 offically documented minutes of ring time. Just under 2 hours. Which means TWO HOURS of the show were promos, intro packages, entrances, backstage skits etc. Which to me is sheer crap.
WrestleMania 17 had 168:49. An entire 49 minutes more of in ring action.
It's the SuperBowl of wrestling. Its where the season ends. We dont want to see skits and 10 minute promos. We want feuds to be resolved. We want clear winners and losers.
WE WANT WRESTLING.
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Post by Paco on Dec 16, 2011 19:12:14 GMT -5
Nope. 4 hours is more than enough. WWE time management on PPV (ESPECIALLY WrestleManias lately) sucks.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 16, 2011 19:15:42 GMT -5
In addition to being inundated by endless promos and skits, another issue I've noticed is how they try to cram one too many matches onto the show. You end up with a series of short, rushed matches that don't feel at all befitting of the biggest event of the year. The 8-man tag from this year's WM immediately springs to mind. I mean, did that match even last a minute? I understand the mentality of getting as many guys onto the show as possible, but I'd rather see fewer matches that are actually given the time to tell a proper story.
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Post by LostLord on Dec 16, 2011 19:18:14 GMT -5
If they did an hour and a half less of skits than they already do, it'd be fine.
The four on four tag match last Mania was disgustingly short.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2011 19:18:49 GMT -5
Get rid of some of the sketches and if you have interviews, reduce their length and 4 hours is more than enough. Basically.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 16, 2011 19:28:45 GMT -5
depends on what they planned. Wrestlemania XX was 5 hours long, but they also had a lot filler of backstage promos, vince's speech, hall of fame, ventura doing whatever. undertakers long entrance and each match had a lot of time
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Post by DeathRay on Dec 16, 2011 19:34:15 GMT -5
IMO they should worry about making promo videos for every match on the card, try to keep the extra segments to a minimum and give every match enough time, and not about making the show fit into a specific time slot. If they need 3,4 or 5 hours then so be it.
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Post by Dean-o on Dec 16, 2011 19:45:06 GMT -5
4 hours is plenty of time, but they need stop overbooking the show. That 8 man tag did NOTHING for anybody, in fact it made The Corre look like a bunch of chumps. Really, 92 seconds? Thanks for coming guys!
Although, last year had that God awful Rock promo to open up the show, how long was that, 20 minutes? That could have gave Bryan/Sheamus and Corre/faces some more time.
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Post by 543Y2J on Dec 16, 2011 19:49:28 GMT -5
4 hours is plenty of time, but they need stop overbooking the show. That 8 man tag did NOTHING for anybody, in fact it made The Corre look like a bunch of chumps. Really, 92 seconds? Thanks for coming guys! Although, last year had that God awful Rock promo to open up the show, how long was that, 20 minutes? That could have gave Bryan/Sheamus and Corre/faces some more time. Dont forget about the Snooki 6 man tag match as well that lasted 3 minutes where Jomo and Dolph had one spot in the whole match. My god the more I think about it the more WM27 was a complete mess.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 16, 2011 19:51:37 GMT -5
depends on what they planned. Wrestlemania XX was 5 hours long, but they also had a lot filler of backstage promos, vince's speech, hall of fame, ventura doing whatever. undertakers long entrance and each match had a lot of time Which means odds are, more PPV time will just mean more filler. Rather than try to add hours, they need to look closely at doing something with the time they've got. I get promos and match hype, but even if they spent a whole hour on that, it'd still leave three for actual matches!
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Post by LostLord on Dec 16, 2011 19:51:46 GMT -5
If I never see Mae Young's tired shtick again, it'll be the best gift the WWE can give.
They're not funny, they're annoying wastes of time and whoever suggests them in the creative office should be thrown out of the corporate jet.
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Post by The Line on Dec 16, 2011 20:15:31 GMT -5
like has been said, the amount of time isn't the issue, but rather how they use it. I mean, anymore, WM has less in ring time(in comparison, not actual time) than the weekly TV shows.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Dec 16, 2011 20:30:14 GMT -5
No, they waste enough PPV time as is. I never understood the need to air promo vidoes before each match. I mean, you already brought the friggin PPV! No need to sell it anymore!
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Post by bobversion1 on Dec 16, 2011 20:34:14 GMT -5
If I never see Mae Young's tired shtick again, it'll be the best gift the WWE can give. They're not funny, they're annoying wastes of time and whoever suggests them in the creative office should be thrown out of the corporate jet. I honestly think at this point Vince does it as a favor/thank you to Mae who seems to have a ball at it... At however old she is, a minute or two for her to have a great time I say so be it..
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Post by -Lithium- on Dec 16, 2011 21:09:24 GMT -5
If I never see Mae Young's tired shtick again, it'll be the best gift the WWE can give. They're not funny, they're annoying wastes of time and whoever suggests them in the creative office should be thrown out of the corporate jet. I never say this, but QFT. "LOL TEH OLD LADY LIKEZ TEH SEX!!1!". I'm so sick of that bulls**t...
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 16, 2011 21:20:53 GMT -5
No, they waste enough PPV time as is. I never understood the need to air promo vidoes before each match. I mean, you already brought the friggin PPV! No need to sell it anymore! To get you hyped up maybe? So what you will about the WWE product, but the one thing they do right is video packages.
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Post by KofiMania on Dec 16, 2011 21:22:03 GMT -5
I agree they need to cut back on the backstage skits, music performances, etc. But I do like that they have the video promos before the big matches--a lot of people don't follow that closely throughout the year and so the promos give them a sense of the storyline, etc.; and for those that do follow, the promos are usually extremely well-made and entertaining anyway.
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Post by moneyman20 on Dec 16, 2011 21:23:03 GMT -5
No, they waste enough PPV time as is. I never understood the need to air promo vidoes before each match. I mean, you already brought the friggin PPV! No need to sell it anymore! To get you hyped up maybe? So what you will about the WWE product, but the one thing they do right is video packages. The video packages I have no problem with. My issue is the sketches and long interviews they have. Keep the packages to get people hyped for the match, but cut the other crap out and they won't be crunched for time like they were at 27.
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