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Post by Larryhausen on Jun 27, 2012 2:04:43 GMT -5
I agree with everything that has been said in this thread.
As I said in (W)rest, I've been watching the first year of ROH shows and even ten years ago, this guy just bled charisma. He just gets this business.
Plus, he loves and respects it, too. From what I've heard from mutual friends, he still works ring crew at indy shows he's booked on. The vets usually get a pass on that, but he does it because he wants to. Mad respect.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jun 27, 2012 2:11:03 GMT -5
Pot shouldn't be a part of the wellness policy. Hopefully it gets legalized or at least let wrestler's smoke it if they want. It would certainly be better for pain than popping pills. I wonder if all the pain they have to deal with is enough to get a medical perscription for it.
Also, lol @ the people thumbing their nose at weed as though taking bumps isn't bad for you at all.
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Post by Legion on Jun 27, 2012 8:42:44 GMT -5
If he wants to do drugs, as with anyone, his choice.
However if he wants to do it and work in a situation where people are going to rely on him to be in place and know what he is doing, so as not to injure himself or others because of his drug use, then that is not ok.
That is likely why it's part of the wellness policy, because, as with any job, you turn up stoned, you're going to get in trouble
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jun 27, 2012 9:20:07 GMT -5
Weed wouldn't hinder your performance. If anything it might help it. Ask Ross Rebagliati. Besides, was he showing up stoned or was it from a wellness test where it was still in his bloodstream? It's not like every main eventer wasn't doing blow during wrestling's boom periods.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 27, 2012 9:47:44 GMT -5
Weed wouldn't hinder your performance. If anything it might help it. Ask Ross Rebagliati. Besides, was he showing up stoned or was it from a wellness test where it was still in his bloodstream? It's not like every main eventer wasn't doing blow during wrestling's boom periods. Bulls***. As someone who may have a little experience smoking grass, I can say without a shadow of a doubt going to the ring while baked would absolutely be irresponsible and dangerous and should be grounds for immediate termination. Same goes for anyone who says "I can drive better when I'm stoned". No you can't, shut the f*** up, walk to get your f***ing Taco Bell. I support pot, I don't support stupidity
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 27, 2012 9:49:18 GMT -5
Weed wouldn't hinder your performance. If anything it might help it. Ask Ross Rebagliati. Besides, was he showing up stoned or was it from a wellness test where it was still in his bloodstream? It's not like every main eventer wasn't doing blow during wrestling's boom periods. Bulls***. As someone who may have a little experience smoking grass, I can say without a shadow of a doubt going to the ring while baked would absolutely be irresponsible and dangerous and should be grounds for immediate termination. Same goes for anyone who says "I can drive better when I'm stoned". No you can't, shut the f*** up, walk to get your f***ing Taco Bell. I support pot, I don't support stupidity Matter of fact, wasn't going into the ring high and someone getting hurt because of it one of the reasons that Road Dogg got fired at some point? Keep in mind that I'm remembering this kind of vaguely.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jun 27, 2012 10:16:12 GMT -5
Never forget. Then HHH happened. And the circle of life in WWE was complete.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jun 27, 2012 10:17:19 GMT -5
Weed wouldn't hinder your performance. If anything it might help it. Ask Ross Rebagliati. Besides, was he showing up stoned or was it from a wellness test where it was still in his bloodstream? It's not like every main eventer wasn't doing blow during wrestling's boom periods. Bulls***. As someone who may have a little experience smoking grass, I can say without a shadow of a doubt going to the ring while baked would absolutely be irresponsible and dangerous and should be grounds for immediate termination. Same goes for anyone who says "I can drive better when I'm stoned". No you can't, shut the f*** up, walk to get your f***ing Taco Bell. I support pot, I don't support stupidity "Alcohol increases your ability to drive". "FALSE"?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 27, 2012 10:19:35 GMT -5
He was supposed to be A Man with A Plan, but we never found out what the Plan was.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 27, 2012 10:23:25 GMT -5
He was supposed to be A Man with A Plan, but we never found out what the Plan was. Much like Wade Barrett's "Bigga Pitcha" it's a mystery lost to the annals of time.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jun 27, 2012 10:44:29 GMT -5
The thing is, people say he was choosing weed over his job or whatever, but it didn't seem like it affected his in-ring performance to me. Dude always bumped like a mofo and workd hard.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jun 27, 2012 10:59:41 GMT -5
Weed wouldn't hinder your performance. If anything it might help it. Ask Ross Rebagliati. Besides, was he showing up stoned or was it from a wellness test where it was still in his bloodstream? It's not like every main eventer wasn't doing blow during wrestling's boom periods. Bulls***. As someone who may have a little experience smoking grass, I can say without a shadow of a doubt going to the ring while baked would absolutely be irresponsible and dangerous and should be grounds for immediate termination. Same goes for anyone who says "I can drive better when I'm stoned". No you can't, shut the f*** up, walk to get your f***ing Taco Bell. I support pot, I don't support stupidity D- Lo broke a guys a neck sober. So did Benoit and Owen. As well as countless other injuries. Maybe we should ban sober wrestling? Do we even know of any injuries as the result of someone being high on weed while performing? (This is playing devil's advocate and assuming he was high while wrestling) I can also speak as someone with experience with it and it depends on the user. It may increase motor skills if you're experienced with it. If you're not, then hell no. This is the last of my pro-weed speech since I'm sure the mods aren't liking where this is headed.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 27, 2012 14:53:50 GMT -5
So because accidents happen anyway, we should increase the likelihood of accidents? People crash cars anyway, so let's all drunk drive...
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jun 27, 2012 14:59:10 GMT -5
Who said Kendrick was wrestling high? I know he smoked weed, but when was it ever reported (lol) that he showed up in the ring high?
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Post by nate5054 on Jun 27, 2012 15:18:20 GMT -5
If there is a performance issue that's one thing. I'm guessing that it's WWE policy to not let any wrestler, er superstar, perform while intoxicated on anything, be it booze, weed, other illicit substances, or various prescription medications. It would be wise for them to do some sort of performance evaluation before they go out to wrestle, especially since there are a ton of drunks in the business.
But off the clock, I even get the right they have to fire someone for being on illicit substances and their right to test for them. For whatever reason (and IMO for good reasons but I won't get into them) they said for certain drugs you get suspended/fired, but for weed you get a fine. However, they also seem to punish people behind the scenes for testing positive for weed.
So my question is simple. If weed is really a big deal for them, why don't they just add it to the list of substances that violates the wellness policy (at least in the sense of suspensions like most every other drug)? If a guy like Kendrick was willing to pay the piper using the framework that WWE had, why was he punished? It would be like me not paying a meter when I parked downtown and getting a ticket for it and paying the ticket each time, and then having the city all of a sudden impound my car because I kept parking without paying the meter even though there is no provision for that (as far as I know you can infinitely park without paying a meter and as long as you pay the fine with no other consequences...hell, the city probably loves that but that's another matter).
And I'm not trying to get this thread locked or make it about weed at all or make it about the safety of wrestling while high or whatever. This is more a question about policy.
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Post by The OP on Jun 27, 2012 15:24:52 GMT -5
Who said Kendrick was wrestling high? I know he smoked weed, but when was it ever reported (lol) that he showed up in the ring high? No one, and never. That's why I don't agree with it. It's their policy though, and to his credit I've never really heard him complain or talk like he should have been above the rules or anything like that. Speculatively, I think there was probably a little bit more to it than just the weed thing. I'm sure it was an issue, but that may have been symptomatic of a bigger issue of him just not fitting into the corporate culture. Weed or no weed, he certainly seems like the kind of guy who marches to his own drummer. I myself have struggled to go along in situations that demand conformity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 19:00:20 GMT -5
In the real world you lose your job when you fail a drug test for smoking pot once.
Wrestlers can manage without too, they'll be fine.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jun 27, 2012 19:40:34 GMT -5
I'm not gonna vilify the company for firing someone in violation of the rules, but I'm also not gonna vilify Kendrick for smoking weed. The dude clearly likes wrestling and smoking weed. Him not quitting doesn't mean he has disrespect for the business or w.e (which I haven't heard anyone who's actually involved in wrestling say, only fans) he just clearly isn't a good employee by WWE standards. Still, I hope to see him back soon cuz he's definitely one of my favorite wrestlers of the past few years.
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Post by David Otunga: Eternian at Law on Jun 27, 2012 20:16:38 GMT -5
I liked Kendrick's heal turn...I think he finally had hit on something good...and the parrell's between him and HBK were not wasted. Cocky undersized guy, odd fasion sense body guard.
I think he could have done well.
Instead pot.
And a run in the land of TNA, which was quickly ended by a guy who was so damn good he just basically had to walk away from the division because he ended up being too good not to be main event.
Take note Kendrick...THAT is the way to advance.
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