Marty McFry
Don Corleone
"She was mine before she was yours.... Wooooo"
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Post by Marty McFry on Jun 28, 2012 13:06:59 GMT -5
Where did this "he sells as much merch as Cena" come from?
Maybe he did for a few weeks following MITB last year but you only have to look at the crowds to see that isn't true. Unless there's some stats out that I'm not aware of? I don't argue with statistics.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 28, 2012 13:08:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't. It would just draw out the tin-foil hat crowd again. Nah. They've thought ROH has been owned by WWE for years already. I'll just never forget, after Punk won the belt, and the shoot. "Aww, man, he's TOTALLY gonna appear in ROH with the belt, you know he is! Vince has been working with them the WHOLE TIME! I KNEW I WAS SMARTER THAN THOSE TWO CORPORATIONS!" *Weeks later* "........." |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 28, 2012 13:09:45 GMT -5
Where did this "he sells as much merch as Cena" come from? Maybe he did for a few weeks following MITB last year but you only have to look at the crowds to see that isn't true. Unless there's some stats out that I'm not aware of? I don't argue with statistics. I wouldn't say "as much as" Cena, but the difference is probably pretty negligible, in the grand scheme. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 28, 2012 13:23:10 GMT -5
I don't get anybody knocking the Death Before Dishonor III crowd during that promo. I was there, you couldn't believe how badly most of us had been had; most people there had no idea how to react for a good five minutes.
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Bub (BLM)
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 28, 2012 13:24:20 GMT -5
Where did this "he sells as much merch as Cena" come from? Maybe he did for a few weeks following MITB last year but you only have to look at the crowds to see that isn't true. Unless there's some stats out that I'm not aware of? I don't argue with statistics. No, he OUTSOLD John Cena in the weeks following Money in the Bank. They've got to be really close at this point. There have been many, many instances in the past year where I've gone to buy some kind of Punk merch, whether on WWEshop or in a retail store, and it's been sold out. You have to remember that "merchandise" doesn't just equal the T-Shirts and hats on the little kids in the audience. You see more Punk shirts on adults than you do Cena shirts these days, anyhow. But yeah, merchandise as a whole includes things like action figures, and I can tell you right now as a collector, Punk's figures sell out of stores instantly every single time a new one shows up. Meanwhile, I can go into Target, see three John Cena's, come back in two weeks, and they're all three still there. This just happened last month, and it's adult collectors that mostly buy these things. You might see all the little kids and think that Cena vastly outsells everyone, but you're forgetting about all the adults who prefer Punk and have money to spend. If all it took were little kids, Rey would have blown past Cena in sales. |
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jun 28, 2012 18:16:47 GMT -5
No, he OUTSOLD John Cena in the weeks following Money in the Bank. No, Punk's new t-shirt was selling more among adult males than any individual piece of John Cena merchandise, all of which were at least a few months old, for several weeks following MitB. That's literally the only place this "statistic" comes from, that someone at a dirt sheet went to WWEshop.com and did a search for top-selling products among adult males, and Punk's shirt was at the top of the list, a fact that was instantly ballooned into "CM PUNK HAS SURPASSED CENA AS WWE'S TOP DRAW" hyperbole by hopeful smarks across the web, and continues to be repeated in various forms to this day. |
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Post by Stab Sword on Jun 28, 2012 22:09:32 GMT -5
Yup, I was right, here's the promo, which also includes the genesis of The Pipebomb: That was a good promo ruined by that crowd. Seems to be the story of ROH |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 28, 2012 22:37:10 GMT -5
I can see Punk and Cena being close in terms of merchandising over the last year, with Cena eeking out a lead, but if we're taking into account since 2005, or Cena's PG-era gear, I strongly doubt it's even in the same galaxy in terms of sales.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 28, 2012 23:07:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't. It would just draw out the tin-foil hat crowd again. Nah. They've thought ROH has been owned by WWE for years already. Even a WWE-owned ROH would have had the good sense to give the Richards/Strong/Eddie three way a rest. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 1:47:16 GMT -5
What I was talking about was that Punk starts to crap on the fans and such and they all start clapping and nodding yes and stuff. Kind of ruins everything. Why not boo? why be smarky about it? I see your point but I think it's fine because its their natural reaction. Fans should react on how they feel about it, not just boo because he's turning heel. Indy fans are smarks, the promoters and wrestlers know that. |
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Chainsaw
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 29, 2012 2:44:01 GMT -5
20 people in a room full of 300 fans clap and nod their heads and laugh while the rest sit rapt and stunned, and the entire crowd is what ruined that promo?
You people amaze me sometimes.
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metylerca
King Koopa
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Post by metylerca on Jun 29, 2012 6:08:07 GMT -5
20 people in a room full of 300 fans clap and nod their heads and laugh while the rest sit rapt and stunned, and the entire crowd is what ruined that promo? You people amaze me sometimes. Hey! What do you mean "you people?" |
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Post by unoriginalalex on Jun 29, 2012 16:05:41 GMT -5
I didn't know Lucius Malfoy was a CM Punk fan.
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helped $lim jinx NXT. Woops
