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Post by triplethreatmark on Jul 6, 2012 21:37:58 GMT -5
PWG has been getting a lot more attention lately because they're working with what they're given. They only run at most once a month, so they've basically stopped doing any angles, and started booking every show as a Dream Match show. Aside from guys wanting to steal the show and/or win titles, there are only three things that could even be remotely called storylines: 1: Generico and Steen hate each other. 2: Joey Ryan likes to abuse Candice LeRae. 3: Everyone hates the Young Bucks. So, basically, that's why they've been getting so much attention. Every card has at least one or two matches that makes everyone say, "Holy S***, I've been waiting forever to see that match!!!!" Case in point, In April we got Steen vs. Callihan. In short, if they started running more shows in more places, they'd have to start running more angles to keep interest up, and then the thing that makes them special would be gone. That's a good way of looking at it actually. Nicely done EM. Nicely done.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jul 7, 2012 1:23:03 GMT -5
The sad thing will be in 6 weeks when he signs a WWE developmental contract and we learn he had a handshake deal with Dixie as well
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 7, 2012 1:32:48 GMT -5
The sad thing will be in 6 weeks when he signs a WWE developmental contract and we learn he had a handshake deal with Dixie as well Not gonna lie, I'd laugh my balls off if that happened.
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Post by The Line on Jul 7, 2012 4:42:55 GMT -5
I just hope for King's sake he has a concrete deal w/ TNA in place.
And if ROH's side of the story is correct(or at least the part about him agreeing to a verbal contract to not appear on TV/PPV w/ another company without ROH's permission),I also hope for TNA/King's sake that they take the highroad and don't make this an issue, just to avoid potential lawsuits. Regardless of how ROH may or may not have treated King, as long as he was being paid for his work, he broke a legally-binding deal(as long as ROH can prove it), so King doing any kind of shoot on ROH from this point on would be legal suicide at this point.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 7, 2012 8:25:24 GMT -5
I find the whole thing so strange given how WWE and TNA in this day and age knows wich wrestlers won't re-sign with them 6 months from now. While this guy, his contract is up, they make him tag champ and try working some sort of verbal agreement. If they wouldn't have been clueless they would have known the guy was looking for a way out. Unreal that after all the stuff that happened in wrestling since the 90s that promotions don't prepare for this.
What's unfortunate is that TNA is probably just looking for a few acrobats for Destination X and won't keep most of them. Same as last year. Hopefully for Kenny he wins the strap and get a contract.
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Post by dpg on Jul 7, 2012 10:08:27 GMT -5
I find the whole thing so strange given how WWE and TNA in this day and age knows wich wrestlers won't re-sign with them 6 months from now. While this guy, his contract is up, they make him tag champ and try working some sort of verbal agreement. If they wouldn't have been clueless they would have known the guy was looking for a way out. Unreal that after all the stuff that happened in wrestling since the 90s that promotions don't prepare for this. What's unfortunate is that TNA is probably just looking for a few acrobats for Destination X and won't keep most of them. Same as last year. Hopefully for Kenny he wins the strap and get a contract. I dunno, the two big guys they've brought in (in terms of exposure) are Sonjay Dutt and Kenny King, both of whom got a fair amount of post match tv time (King was on the impact post show for agesss) so they could be looking to bring him him in full time as either champ or chasing a heel champ.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jul 7, 2012 12:55:21 GMT -5
PWG has been getting a lot more attention lately because they're working with what they're given. They only run at most once a month, so they've basically stopped doing any angles, and started booking every show as a Dream Match show. Aside from guys wanting to steal the show and/or win titles, there are only three things that could even be remotely called storylines: 1: Generico and Steen hate each other. 2: Joey Ryan likes to abuse Candice LeRae. 3: Everyone hates the Young Bucks. So, basically, that's why they've been getting so much attention. Every card has at least one or two matches that makes everyone say, "Holy S***, I've been waiting forever to see that match!!!!" Case in point, In April we got Steen vs. Callihan. In short, if they started running more shows in more places, they'd have to start running more angles to keep interest up, and then the thing that makes them special would be gone. I think you forgot one. 4. The Rise of Willie Mack.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 15:22:20 GMT -5
PWG has been getting a lot more attention lately because they're working with what they're given. They only run at most once a month, so they've basically stopped doing any angles, and started booking every show as a Dream Match show. Aside from guys wanting to steal the show and/or win titles, there are only three things that could even be remotely called storylines: 1: Generico and Steen hate each other. 2: Joey Ryan likes to abuse Candice LeRae. 3: Everyone hates the Young Bucks. So, basically, that's why they've been getting so much attention. Every card has at least one or two matches that makes everyone say, "Holy S***, I've been waiting forever to see that match!!!!" Case in point, In April we got Steen vs. Callihan. In short, if they started running more shows in more places, they'd have to start running more angles to keep interest up, and then the thing that makes them special would be gone. I think you forgot one. 4. The Rise of Willie Mack. And Willie Mack only got a shot when PWG cut back on the number of fly-ins and started to depend on local talent.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 15:28:48 GMT -5
From PWInsider:
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Post by grunt on Jul 7, 2012 16:59:48 GMT -5
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, and it doesn't make sense (as an argument) on any level at all.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jul 7, 2012 17:59:45 GMT -5
King being there or not will have no effect on the company's gates or business
IT MAKES ME WANT TO SEE ROH LESS WHEN THEY COME BACK IN OCTOBER, SO HA. TAKE THAT, INTERNET WRESTLING NEWSLETTER. PROVED YOU WRONG.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 18:01:17 GMT -5
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, and it doesn't make sense (as an argument) on any level at all. It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that?
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Post by comahan on Jul 7, 2012 18:06:13 GMT -5
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, and it doesn't make sense (as an argument) on any level at all. It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that? A few did
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 7, 2012 18:11:34 GMT -5
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, and it doesn't make sense (as an argument) on any level at all. It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that? But ROH are not as much on solid ground as TNA and WWE financially so cancelling shows might be viewed as "oh oh things are not doing well". Wich may be wrong or right but it's easy to understand people thinking this way.
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Post by grunt on Jul 7, 2012 18:16:02 GMT -5
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, and it doesn't make sense (as an argument) on any level at all. It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that? a) If we're talking TNA, then yes, they do. Hell, even one cancelled house show brings out the "see, they've got money problems" crowd. b) no, it doesn't make sense. Not only is the phrasing backwards (how would WWE cancelling more shows in two years than ROH in one prove any point !?), but anyway, it's the comparison that makes no sense. WWE - a multi-million dollar company - runs four to six shows a week, as opposed to one or two a month for ROH - a company that, at best, is very midly successful, financially speaking - : WWE could cancel a third of their dates, they wouldn't be close to go out of business. On the other hand, if ROH were to do the same, I doubt they would survive long.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 7, 2012 18:17:02 GMT -5
As for the Kenny business, it's obvious the guy was looking for a way out and the company was trying to prevent him from going away. And he wasn't willing to part with the tag titles without being sure if TNA was going to take him.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 18:25:07 GMT -5
It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that? a) If we're talking TNA, then yes, they do. Hell, even one cancelled house show brings out the "see, they've got money problems" crowd. b) no, it doesn't make sense. Not only is the phrasing backwards (how would WWE cancelling more shows in two years than ROH in one prove any point !?), but anyway, it's the comparison that makes no sense. WWE - a multi-million dollar company - runs four to six shows a week, as opposed to one or two a month for ROH - a company that, at best, is very midly successful, financially speaking - : WWE could cancel a third of their dates, they wouldn't be close to go out of business. On the other hand, if ROH were to do the same, I doubt they would survive long. ROH paid the guys who were booked for the shows money and told them they could do other bookings during that time. Most indies when they cancel a show, you're up s*** creek and floating without a paddle. ROH cancelled the shows (Evolve did a loop in the Carolinas weeks back that were majorly disappointing to them) and the net was giving last rites. When they have more cancelled shows than actual ones and people checks are bouncing, then we have a problem.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 18:30:49 GMT -5
As for the Kenny business, it's obvious the guy was looking for a way out and the company was trying to prevent him from going away. Sounds very familiar.
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Post by The Line on Jul 7, 2012 18:56:40 GMT -5
As for the Kenny business, it's obvious the guy was looking for a way out and the company was trying to prevent him from going away. And he wasn't willing to part with the tag titles without being sure if TNA was going to take him. Then, if you're King, simply don't enter a verbal contract
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 7, 2012 19:11:25 GMT -5
It does make sense. When TNA cancels an international tour, do people say they are going out of business because of that? a) If we're talking TNA, then yes, they do. Hell, even one cancelled house show brings out the "see, they've got money problems" crowd. b) no, it doesn't make sense. Not only is the phrasing backwards (how would WWE cancelling more shows in two years than ROH in one prove any point !?), but anyway, it's the comparison that makes no sense. WWE - a multi-million dollar company - runs four to six shows a week, as opposed to one or two a month for ROH - a company that, at best, is very midly successful, financially speaking - : WWE could cancel a third of their dates, they wouldn't be close to go out of business. On the other hand, if ROH were to do the same, I doubt they would survive long. There also this quote I seen going around on other forums
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