dpg
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Post by dpg on Jul 6, 2012 9:27:36 GMT -5
I can see King's side of it, and ROH's. King was offered the chance to do live tv on a national network, he took the chance. I didn't realise ROH was in such a bad state at the moment, if they are cutting back costs and cancelling live shows, then I can see why he took the chance with TNA. He did have a verbal contract though, dunno how legal that is.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Jul 6, 2012 10:35:39 GMT -5
I think TNA & WWE will continue to cannibalize ROH for their own growth. I call it the ECW c.1997 effect, every time the company created a new big star WWF or WCW would lure that star away until by 2000 ECW was left with next to nothing,
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jul 6, 2012 11:59:17 GMT -5
Considering Davey Richards broke his verbal contract with EVOLVE to sign with ROH, I cant say I have much sympathy for Cornette and co.
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543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Jul 6, 2012 12:03:25 GMT -5
Considering Davey Richards broke his verbal contract with EVOLVE to sign with ROH, I cant say I have much sympathy for Cornette and co. This is true. I totally forgot about that
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 12:07:58 GMT -5
Considering Davey Richards broke his verbal contract with EVOLVE to sign with ROH, I cant say I have much sympathy for Cornette and co. This...is a point. I'm willing to say that this is a wash, karma-wise. ROH got what they gave, just a couple years on.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jul 6, 2012 12:30:42 GMT -5
Can't blame King at all here. He's definitely in a way better spot in TNA than ROH. dumb move on ROH's part to put a belt on him if he's not signed, handshake deal or not. TNA would be smart to put the X Title on KK.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 12:34:45 GMT -5
Truth is though, yeah, Kenny King is a potential breakout star for TNA, and, like I said earlier, if ROH is smart, they'll lock down Rhett in a hurry because they just found their newest babyface to strap a rocket to.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Jul 6, 2012 12:38:57 GMT -5
This could potentially be good for ROH in the sense that, even though King is awesome, like Spanky said, Rhett could be their next breakout guy because of this. Dude has a ton of sympathy right now and was already over before this. I hope he's given the chance by ROH.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 12:42:33 GMT -5
For the record, Kenny King has officially been removed from ROH's roster page.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 6, 2012 12:47:09 GMT -5
I hope Quakenbush is making sure that Kingston and the Bucks haven't got any calls from TNA because there is nothing saying that Chikara isn't next to be raided.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jul 6, 2012 12:47:31 GMT -5
IMO, both TNA and ROH should strap the rocket to King and Titus.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jul 6, 2012 12:49:40 GMT -5
It's not a raid if there's a working relationship where they can do both companies.
TNA is all about that kind of stuff, with deals with ROH, AAA, CMLL, NOAH and New Japan over the years.
TNA has AAA's title right now, even if they've failed to bring in a single AAA guy other than Jack Evans.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Jul 6, 2012 12:50:48 GMT -5
I hope Quakenbush is making sure that Kingston and the Bucks haven't got any calls from TNA because there is nothing saying that Chikara isn't next to be raided. Eh its a lot different, ROH has contracts and all that
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 12:54:14 GMT -5
I hope Quakenbush is making sure that Kingston and the Bucks haven't got any calls from TNA because there is nothing saying that Chikara isn't next to be raided. Eh its a lot different, ROH has contracts and all that Yeah. If TNA "steals" a Chikara guy away, pretty much the worst that Quack can do is throw a hissy fit. Which, if this working relationship business is true, isn't even an issue in the first place. Though, once again, TNA can HAVE Jigsaw if it means they don't take anyone else.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 6, 2012 12:55:52 GMT -5
It's not a raid if there's a working relationship where they can do both companies. TNA is all about that kind of stuff, with deals with ROH, AAA, CMLL, NOAH and New Japan over the years. TNA has AAA's title right now, even if they've failed to bring in a single AAA guy other than Jack Evans. There isn't a working agreement with Chikara. TNA wants one and they haven't gave an answer yet. The reason you saw guys like No Limit and Okada from NJPW because that was part of their overseas excursion. Same for Koyoshi with All Japan. And the reason TNA didn't bring back Jack Evans is that his AAA contract is ironclad.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jul 6, 2012 13:02:15 GMT -5
I hope Quakenbush is making sure that Kingston and the Bucks haven't got any calls from TNA because there is nothing saying that Chikara isn't next to be raided. Don't think that's gonna happen, even though Nick has said on twitter that he wouldn't mind coming back. I think the difference is that someone must be talking to Quack about Jigsaw working in TNA. Because on Quack and Chikaraspecial's twitter they have re-tweeted and congratulated Jigsaw for his match. In other words I think the relationship is friendly enough. I imagine that if any of the Chikara champs got a call, Quack and Dixie(Prichard? or whoever) would come to some sort of deal where the champ would drop the title first. That's the positive of having a good relationship with other companies. Bosses can talk to other bosses about talent without a problem and talent wouldn't be straight up going behind a companies back to do things.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 13:04:11 GMT -5
I hope Quakenbush is making sure that Kingston and the Bucks haven't got any calls from TNA because there is nothing saying that Chikara isn't next to be raided. Don't think that's gonna happen, even though Nick has said on twitter that he wouldn't mind coming back. I think the difference is that someone must be talking to Quack about Jigsaw working in TNA. Because on Quack and Chikaraspecial's twitter they have re-tweeted and congratulated Jigsaw for his match. In other words I think the relationship is friendly enough. I imagine that if any of the Chikara champs got a call, Quack and Dixie(Prichard? or whoever) would come to some sort of deal where the champ would drop the title first. That's the positive of having a good relationship with other companies. Bosses can talk to other bosses about talent without a problem and talent wouldn't be straight up going behind a companies back to do things. Though, knowing how...finnicky Quack can be sometimes, that might be more trouble than it's worth to Dixie in the long run.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jul 6, 2012 13:05:46 GMT -5
I don't know if the working agreement rumors are true but many of the chikara talents have re-tweeted TNA news and I at the very least think Quack and Dixie talk to each behind the scenes. Whatever the case the ones who commented seemed happy for Jigsaw and even posted the match in several places.
The relationship with TNA must be at least somewhat friendly. So I don't think any Chikara talent would try to go to TNA without talking to Quack first.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jul 6, 2012 13:09:01 GMT -5
Don't think that's gonna happen, even though Nick has said on twitter that he wouldn't mind coming back. I think the difference is that someone must be talking to Quack about Jigsaw working in TNA. Because on Quack and Chikaraspecial's twitter they have re-tweeted and congratulated Jigsaw for his match. In other words I think the relationship is friendly enough. I imagine that if any of the Chikara champs got a call, Quack and Dixie(Prichard? or whoever) would come to some sort of deal where the champ would drop the title first. That's the positive of having a good relationship with other companies. Bosses can talk to other bosses about talent without a problem and talent wouldn't be straight up going behind a companies back to do things. Though, knowing how...finnicky Quack can be sometimes, that might be more trouble than it's worth to Dixie in the long run. Oh? I'm not familiar with Quack actions behind the scenes for real, can't really comment on that.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 6, 2012 13:11:19 GMT -5
Don't think that's gonna happen, even though Nick has said on twitter that he wouldn't mind coming back. I think the difference is that someone must be talking to Quack about Jigsaw working in TNA. Because on Quack and Chikaraspecial's twitter they have re-tweeted and congratulated Jigsaw for his match. In other words I think the relationship is friendly enough. I imagine that if any of the Chikara champs got a call, Quack and Dixie(Prichard? or whoever) would come to some sort of deal where the champ would drop the title first. That's the positive of having a good relationship with other companies. Bosses can talk to other bosses about talent without a problem and talent wouldn't be straight up going behind a companies back to do things. Though, knowing how...finnicky Quack can be sometimes, that might be more trouble than it's worth to Dixie in the long run. Finicky's a understatement.
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