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Post by norsisclouds on Jul 10, 2012 21:10:23 GMT -5
Miz/Lawler was a fantastic one night thing, though I hate that it became a feud afterwards. The problem was that it felt just like the Flair Edge match but without the big bumps from Lawler. And the amazing bumps from Edge. It was a watered down version of a match done earlier by two far superior performers, one of whom cut his teeth in innovating them...it was doomed not to hold up under future or present scrutiny for that matter. I am really pleased at the Trish vs Lita match. I'm not so sure about the placement, but that is my favorite women's match of all time with my absolute favorite female wrestler. It must feel really good for them to have cemented their legacies in WWE and look at a list seeing their names there with all of those men. ;D
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Jul 10, 2012 21:17:58 GMT -5
Bret/123 Kid is number 3? And to think that match happened not even 10 miles up the road in a resort where the crowd couldn't be more then 200 people.
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Post by juvijuiceisloose on Jul 10, 2012 21:34:37 GMT -5
Question about Shelton/HBK since I remember practically nothing about it: Is the entire match good, or do people rank the whole match based solely on it having maybe the greatest match-ending move ever? The whole match is fantastic.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jul 10, 2012 21:37:00 GMT -5
So glad to see Punk/Ziggler made Top 20. I'd rank it a little higher personally, but I'm happy it made the list at all. One of my favorite RAW matches in the last 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 21:42:29 GMT -5
Road Dogg vs. Al Snow? Huh?
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Post by Renslayer on Jul 11, 2012 0:10:00 GMT -5
I had never seen the Steiners vs. Quebecers match before so that was a pleasant surprise.
some of these matches I don't remember so I'll have to watch each one to refresh my memory
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 11, 2012 0:16:33 GMT -5
Road Dogg vs. Al Snow? Huh? I think that was the first WWF Hardcore match to actually move outside the arena. It's what led to the matches taking place in the Mississippi River or in a bar across from the arena.
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Post by fazzle on Jul 11, 2012 1:20:04 GMT -5
How did the Edge/Christian vs Hardyz ladder match from the first Raw on TNN not make this list AT ALL? Going in I assumed it was a lock for the top 10. Also from a personal standpoint, since alot of these matches are ranked high because of upsets or potential big upsets, I'm saddened that HHH vs Taka Michinoku didn't make it.
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Post by Rest easy big bro on Jul 11, 2012 9:07:41 GMT -5
Cena/HBK always irked me because the previous WM was so short, I guess they couldn't get the full hour so raw had to do.
[smark conspiracy]It was booked to prove all those nerds cena can go an hour(he couldn't)[/tin foil hat]
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Post by Spearmint* on Jul 11, 2012 11:17:12 GMT -5
A very well put together list I have to say.
The only notable exceptions I'd suggest would be:
Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit v.s Triple H and Stone Cold - May 2001 (Benoit Issue tho)
Triple H v.s Ric Flair -May 2003 Triple H v.s Kane - -June 2003 (More for Kane removing his mask as a moment, but still a fine match)
Kurt Angle v.s HBK - 30 Minute Iron Man Match - Raw Homecoming 2005. Matt Hardy v.s Edge - Loser Leaves Raw - Raw Homecoming 2005. Rey Mysterio v.s HBK - Eddie Tribute Show 2005 (Although I can understand why they'd choose to overlook this)
Jeff Hardy v.s Umaga - Steel Cage Match - Sometime 2008.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 11:30:48 GMT -5
On the 10th Anniversary show, they ranked the TLC match from 2002 over Undertaker/Jeff Hardy.
Still a good match, the TLC one, (despite the fact that Kane competed solely with the Tag Team belts), but, IMO, they picked the right match a decade later as far as being better on the list.
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Post by norsisclouds on Jul 11, 2012 11:51:47 GMT -5
How did the Edge/Christian vs Hardyz ladder match from the first Raw on TNN not make this list AT ALL? Going in I assumed it was a lock for the top 10. Also from a personal standpoint, since alot of these matches are ranked high because of upsets or potential big upsets, I'm saddened that HHH vs Taka Michinoku didn't make it. I could've sworn that match was on PPV. The standing ovation on RAW took place the next night... But maybe I'm wrong
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Post by BME on Jul 11, 2012 12:13:03 GMT -5
Michaels/Cena was pretty much what I expected. Still Cena's best match. Whether you can give all of that to HBK or not, it's still a solid one hour match I would say Cena gave the better showing in that match. One thing that bothers me about the list is that Jerry Lawler vs Goldust from 5/26/97 is not on it. I thought it was one of the best matches in RAW history.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jul 11, 2012 19:04:12 GMT -5
Decent list.
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Post by Renslayer on Jul 11, 2012 21:21:14 GMT -5
Michaels/Cena was pretty much what I expected. Still Cena's best match. Whether you can give all of that to HBK or not, it's still a solid one hour match I would say Cena gave the better showing in that match. One thing that bothers me about the list is that Jerry Lawler vs Goldust from 5/26/97 is not on it. I thought it was one of the best matches in RAW history. I don't remember that match at all. In fact, the only thing I remember about it was Lawler calling Goldust a f** in a promo on Raw.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jul 11, 2012 21:50:07 GMT -5
No IC Battle Royal!? That would've made my personal top 20.
And too bad Benoit did what he did or this list would be much much more accurate.
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Post by JDviant on Jul 11, 2012 22:43:46 GMT -5
Good list, but I would honestly put Cena/Randy vs RAW Roster in the top 25. It was stupid, but SO much fun
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Jul 11, 2012 23:04:13 GMT -5
Haha, so happy to see Road Dogg vs Al Snow on there. My dad and I still talk about that match. Not a bad list, though throw me in the camp of people that doesn't get all the love for Cena/HBK.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jul 12, 2012 3:41:48 GMT -5
How did the Edge/Christian vs Hardyz ladder match from the first Raw on TNN not make this list AT ALL? Going in I assumed it was a lock for the top 10. Also from a personal standpoint, since alot of these matches are ranked high because of upsets or potential big upsets, I'm saddened that HHH vs Taka Michinoku didn't make it. I could've sworn that match was on PPV. The standing ovation on RAW took place the next night... But maybe I'm wrong They a cage match on ppv, the ladder match main evented the 1st Raw on TNN.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 12, 2012 4:33:07 GMT -5
Hey, my choice for best Raw match ever, is WWE's 2nd choice. Nice to see they gave love to Miz vs Morrison Falls Count Anywhere. I'd say Miz had 3 matches last year that you could make a case for belonging on this list. The first being Miz vs Morrison, the other 2 would be Miz vs Mysterio for the WWE Title, and Miz vs Cena for the WWE Title from Rock's Birthday Raw. On the 10th Anniversary show, they ranked the TLC match from 2002 over Undertaker/Jeff Hardy. Zod that special was terrible. There were only 3 good things about it. 1. How good Trish, Steph, and Stacy looked. 2. The group of people who yelled "Kane!" when Stacy mentioned a dentist with bad teeth. 3. The opening video set to "Bawitdaba", which you can't find now. The opening video for that online is set to a production theme.
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