Jonathan Michaels
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Aug 7, 2012 19:59:43 GMT -5
When set up for pro wrestling the Garden doesn't hold quite half of that (capacity is slightly under 23K). Reference to a TNA skit but, cool, I didn't know that. WHERE'S THE CHART??
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Aug 7, 2012 20:09:15 GMT -5
every time I think of Nash from now on, I'm going to picture him watching porn and complaining to himself that the guy's dicks aren't big enough.
"Am I supposed to buy this? There's no way that guy is actually a firefighter, his dick is too small!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 20:13:21 GMT -5
every time I think of Nash from now on, I'm going to picture him watching porn and complaining to himself that the guy's dicks aren't big enough. "Am I supposed to buy this? There's no way that guy is actually a firefighter, his dick is too small!" I love Nash but that analogy is awful. A more accurate one would have been "you're gonna watch a pro wrestler with a 3 move repertoire?" And apparently, that answer is a resounding YES!
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 7, 2012 20:14:22 GMT -5
So Channing Tatum as John Cena?
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PKO
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Post by PKO on Aug 7, 2012 20:15:02 GMT -5
I often forget that Kevin Nash is a douche.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 7, 2012 20:18:59 GMT -5
every time I think of Nash from now on, I'm going to picture him watching porn and complaining to himself that the guy's dicks aren't big enough. "Am I supposed to buy this? There's no way that guy is actually a firefighter, his dick is too small!" The obvious porn analogy would be girls with small breasts. He must have been watching some at the summer home lately.
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Ryanar
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Post by Ryanar on Aug 7, 2012 20:20:42 GMT -5
What else is new with Kevin Nash. He's a douchebag with an inflated ego that makes Kanye West cower in fear. This interview is nothing to get worked up about.
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Post by RareTradU on Aug 7, 2012 20:25:13 GMT -5
No, Nash. Benoit and Guerrero hugging wasn't the end of the business. That would have been when you and your buddies pissed all over kayfabe in MSG. Considering the biggest boom period in the history of wrestling occurred after this incident I'd say this is incorrect. Nash is somewhat correct in what he is saying, although saying it in a disrespectful way. The business has been declining since 2002 or hell maybe even before that. I wouldn't personally blame Guerrero or Benoit (well maybe Benoit for some but totally different reasons) for the decline. He is right about the larger than life aspect of wrestling being almost gone. I mentioned a few weeks ago when The Rock was in the ring with Punk and Bryan how tiny they looked compared to him. Now I'm sure The Rock can make both of them look like they are killing him but it's just hard to suspend belief when there is so much size difference.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 7, 2012 20:26:48 GMT -5
The whole term "vanilla midget" makes no sense. Being freakishly tall or muscular does not make a star. HBK isn't a giant, but he can piss all over Nash in terms of performing ability. As for being "vanilla" (ie: boring), a lack of personality never applied to Eddie Guerrero. It could certainly be applied to Nash by comparison.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Aug 7, 2012 20:31:59 GMT -5
what an epic douchebag
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Aug 7, 2012 20:33:04 GMT -5
Kevin Nash, originator of smarkbat.
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Post by Celgress on Aug 7, 2012 20:39:15 GMT -5
Kevin Nash, originator of smarkbat. Honestly I doubt Nash is that smart. Nash takes credit for a lot of smarkbait after the fact, as if it was all part of his grand design. Whereas in reality it was Nash just running his mouth, as usual, fulled by the monumental flames of his own over inflated, ignorant ego.
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Aug 7, 2012 20:48:52 GMT -5
Kevin Nash, originator of smarkbat. Master of the double work.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Aug 7, 2012 20:52:18 GMT -5
Kevin Nash: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9gN2hdybFY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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ICBM
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Post by ICBM on Aug 7, 2012 20:54:37 GMT -5
I really do mean it when I say I agree with him here. Nash has forgotten more about working and drawing money than any internet wrestling fan including myself. Getting mad that he said something bad about one of your faves won't change the truth behind what he said. Had Austin strolled off the jetway at DFW or Minot international airport, the result would be the same. A mob scene mark out. If CM Punk or Bryan did it there may be a few at DFW but nobody in Minot would instantly recognize him without his gimmick. Like David lee Either said "if you aren't played in Tahiti, you aren't anywhere".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 20:57:18 GMT -5
The whole term "vanilla midget" makes no sense. Being freakishly tall or muscular does not make a star. HBK isn't a giant, but he can piss all over Nash in terms of performing ability. As for being "vanilla" (ie: boring), a lack of personality never applied to Eddie Guerrero. It could certainly be applied to Nash by comparison. Not to mention social networks and internet that have made even Steve Austin look like an approachable human being. There aren't a lot of people on this planet I'd describe as "larger than life". Even during the Austin era you couldn't claim every wrestler to be larger than life, during the Hulk Hogan era for sure, the mystique of the professional wrestler was a lot easier to maintain before the internet, but it doesn't matter how hard wrestlers tried kayfabe was eventually gonna die. If CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were carrying to torch and acting like Dr. D. David Schultz wherever they would just be laughed at. They're personal and relatable, at the same time it's not like they're making wrestling look like something anyone can do. I feel more confident I could do what Nash does than I would feel stepping in Daniel Bryan's or CM Punk's shoes. I get it when Nash talks about how you don't need high spots or chain wrestling to make it but you can write a play a good song using only power chords, or play a good song with guitar solos and more technical ability. Neither is wrong or right, you can come up with a classic either way. The Chris Benoits and Eddie Guerreros added to the variety of wrestling at that time and their way of working is just as valid as Kevin Nash's more character based approach. I never understand Nash's thing about wrestling needs to be this and only this, when CM Punk nor Daniel Bryan never had to dress up as a Wizard to make it in wrestling.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 7, 2012 20:57:17 GMT -5
I really do mean it when I say I agree with him here. Nash has forgotten more about working and drawing money than any internet wrestling fan including myself. Getting mad that he said something bad about one of your faves won't change the truth behind what he said. Had Austin strolled off the jetway at DFW or Minot international airport, the result would be the same. A mob scene mark out. If CM Punk or Bryan did it there may be a few at DFW but nobody in Minot would instantly recognize him without his gimmick. Like David lee Either said "if you aren't played in Tahiti, you aren't anywhere". Not really, Austin is a "small guy" too and wouldn't be noticed anywhere without the gimmick. Unless you're going to allow exceptions to his point where it suits you, or you didn't read what he actually said.
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 7, 2012 21:07:14 GMT -5
I really do mean it when I say I agree with him here. Nash has forgotten more about working and drawing money than any internet wrestling fan including myself. Getting mad that he said something bad about one of your faves won't change the truth behind what he said. Had Austin strolled off the jetway at DFW or Minot international airport, the result would be the same. A mob scene mark out. If CM Punk or Bryan did it there may be a few at DFW but nobody in Minot would instantly recognize him without his gimmick. Like David lee Either said "if you aren't played in Tahiti, you aren't anywhere". Kevin Nash was hardly a draw in the WWF in '95, so he doesn't really have any room to talk. He's also never really been much of a worker, either.
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Steveweiser
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Post by Steveweiser on Aug 7, 2012 21:16:40 GMT -5
I can see some elements of what Nash is saying - in so much as you can approach and be somewhat on the same level as some of today's wrestlers. The "larger than life" aspect is dying.
Still had a major chuckle at the "double work" line, though.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 7, 2012 21:29:28 GMT -5
I can see some elements of what Nash is saying - in so much as you can approach and be somewhat on the same level as some of today's wrestlers. The "larger than life" aspect is dying. Still had a major chuckle at the "double work" line, though. What he's saying is perfectly acceptable from the old-school view of the business. Someone like Andre or Hogan, if they were wandering around somewhere, you'd notice them even if you didn't know who the hell they were. BUT, the business has changed alot. And I don't even mean over the last 20-25-30 years, even this century. Look at the Rock for example, I mean he's by no extent a small guy, but he looks like a monster now.
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