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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 10, 2012 21:07:24 GMT -5
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 10, 2012 22:14:21 GMT -5
Considering how often I have seen this topic come up and the fans or writers give it to Batman every damned time, it was nice to see the match up actually make sense for a change, and the right guy wins.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 10, 2012 22:18:59 GMT -5
Considering how often I have seen this topic come up and the fans or writers give it to Batman every damned time, it was nice to see the match up actually make sense for a change, and the right guy wins. Well that's because they always give Batman his prep time. Death Battle never gives them prep time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 22:20:01 GMT -5
Quick Question: Do the stats in these showdowns tend to be a little... off? Batman can bench a thousand pounds? Since when? Even Cap has a limit of eight hundred or so, given prior power assessments. Now, obviously, these are fictional characters and can be as strong as a writer needs them to be but that threw me off.
Never mind; saw Spider man listed as 210 pounds, so I'm guessing they pull the stats out of their asses ;D
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Post by ronin705 on Aug 10, 2012 22:23:44 GMT -5
Quick Question: Do the stats in these showdowns tend to be a little... off? Batman can bench a thousand pounds? Since when? Even Cap has a limit of eight hundred or so, given prior power assessments. Now, obviously, these are fictional characters and can be as strong as a writer needs them to be but that threw me off. The way I see DC is that their demigods so Batman as a peak human can pull that off, as opposed to the more grounded "Metas" of Marvel.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 10, 2012 22:27:03 GMT -5
Quick Question: Do the stats in these showdowns tend to be a little... off? Batman can bench a thousand pounds? Since when? Even Cap has a limit of eight hundred or so, given prior power assessments. Now, obviously, these are fictional characters and can be as strong as a writer needs them to be but that threw me off. Never mind; saw Spider man listed as 210 pounds, so I'm guessing they pull the stats out of their asses ;D Nope. They never pull the stats from their asses. They research the ever loving hell out of the characters the put into Death Battle, so anything they put on there they pulled from some source.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 10, 2012 22:31:23 GMT -5
I don't care how much they research, Spidey cannot run at 200mph, no way, no how. He can swing at 200, not run. He is also usually listed around 165-185.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 22:32:47 GMT -5
Quick Question: Do the stats in these showdowns tend to be a little... off? Batman can bench a thousand pounds? Since when? Even Cap has a limit of eight hundred or so, given prior power assessments. Now, obviously, these are fictional characters and can be as strong as a writer needs them to be but that threw me off. Never mind; saw Spider man listed as 210 pounds, so I'm guessing they pull the stats out of their asses ;D Nope. They never pull the stats from their asses. They research the ever loving hell out of the characters the put into Death Battle, so anything they put on there they pulled from some source. Fair enough but I want to see the source that lists Peter Parker at f***ing 210 pounds. That's bulls***. I'll accept it with the above cavet that the characters are whatever the writers need them to be but I've never, ever seen Spider-Man drawn where he was a hulking 210 pounds. Never. The Marvel Universe website lists him as 167 lbs pounds in his profile.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 10, 2012 22:35:51 GMT -5
Nope. They never pull the stats from their asses. They research the ever loving hell out of the characters the put into Death Battle, so anything they put on there they pulled from some source. Fair enough but I want to see the source that lists Peter Parker at f***ing 210 pounds. That's bulls***. I'll accept it with the above cavet that the characters are whatever the writers need them to be but I've never, ever seen Spider-Man drawn where he was a hulking 210 pounds. Never. The Marvel Universe website lists him as 167 lbs pounds in his profile. 210 isn't that big. Before I packed on some weight my freshman year of college I was 200 pounds and was pretty damn slim. Not rail thin, but more of a toned physique.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 22:37:51 GMT -5
Fair enough but I want to see the source that lists Peter Parker at f***ing 210 pounds. That's bulls***. I'll accept it with the above cavet that the characters are whatever the writers need them to be but I've never, ever seen Spider-Man drawn where he was a hulking 210 pounds. Never. The Marvel Universe website lists him as 167 lbs pounds in his profile. 210 isn't that big. Before I packed on some weight my freshman year of college I was 200 pounds and was pretty damn slim. Not rail thin, but more of a toned physique. The series is what it is. But, Marvel themselves list him as 167 lbs. But, it's not a point that should derail the thread. I assumed that Spider-Man would win for essentially the reasons they pointed out.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 10, 2012 22:58:47 GMT -5
There's no way in hell that a 'normal' Batman could bench press a thousand pounds.
Motherf***er would look like Liefeld's Cap.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 10, 2012 23:00:38 GMT -5
Doesn't Batman have some kind of strength enhancer in his gloves. Remember something like that in Arkham Asylum to explain how he can pull the grates off the wall with his bare hands. It's suppose to be the same thing that he later built into the Beyond batsuit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 23:04:20 GMT -5
Doesn't Batman have some kind of strength enhancer in his gloves. Remember something like that in Arkham Asylum to explain how he can pull the grates off the wall with his bare hands. It's suppose to be the same thing that he later built into the Beyond batsuit. I believe so but, if that's the case, it should be explained in the run down. It would be akin to listing Batman as having ultraviolet and other specialized vision due to the technology in his cowl but listing it as his normal vision. In both cases, his enhanced abilites can be disabled and, thus, aren't natural abilities. It's like Wolverine being listed at two weights, one with the adamantium and one without.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 10, 2012 23:09:14 GMT -5
Ok, the glove thing I can see. I thought we were just saying Bruce Wayne could lift a half ton. I mean guy's in peak physical condition, but even so.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 10, 2012 23:16:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the stats seem a bit off here, or maybe taken from some of the video games and not official canon.
That said, I'm happy with the result, for once the super-powered person actually beat the non-super-powered person.
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Post by Goldenbane on Aug 11, 2012 0:10:03 GMT -5
According to the original Marvel Universes (circa 1980's) Spiderman weighed 210 pounds. Back then he was drawn nice and proportioned, and nicely buffed as well (though not terribly so). He is/was a late 20's/early 30's full grown man who constantly exercises for god sake, not the dip shit 12 year old kid, or whatever age Marvel claims he was when he first got his powers now.
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Post by Starshine on Aug 11, 2012 0:14:31 GMT -5
Well Batman doesn't kill either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 0:17:40 GMT -5
According to the original Marvel Universes (circa 1980's) Spiderman weighed 210 pounds. Back then he was drawn nice and proportioned, and nicely buffed as well (though not terribly so). He is/was a late 20's/early 30's full grown man who constantly exercises for god sake, not the dip s*** 12 year old kid, or whatever age Marvel claims he was when he first got his powers now. Then that makes him nearly 30 pounds heavier than Flash Thompson, if we go by the Marvel website. Unless we then make Flash damn near 240-250 pounds and Flash should be bigger than Peter, radioactive spider bite or not. Again, Spider Man is as big as the writer needs him to be but it's going to take a lot to convince me that he has 30 pounds on Flash.
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Post by Cela on Aug 11, 2012 0:18:53 GMT -5
Wow, that came out surprisingly quick. Good episode and a predictable outc- wait... Koda has taken interest in this thread and agrees with the decision.
God frikkity bullshit! There is no way Batman would lose this. He's taken down the Flash who is arguably Spider-man with better powers. Plus since when can Spider-man run 200 mph? And why didn't they let Batman do the obvious distraction techniques to throw off the spider sense?
I call shenanigans!
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 11, 2012 0:22:00 GMT -5
And that was the response I was waiting for.
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