FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 18, 2012 17:36:26 GMT -5
Truly. Truly. Awful.
I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised by the roster reveal, but it's just as smegging dire as I'd feared. Consider me part of the dWo, and the number of useless alternates is spectacularly large. I'll be sticking with WWE '12 until a price cut/second hand copy for a tenner or so.
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Post by Richard on Aug 18, 2012 17:44:59 GMT -5
Considering a majority of the roster will be made and completed long before the 1-2 month cut-off period, yes it is. Printing and shipping alone takes at least a month. And creating a full character (model, animations, entrance, move-set and all, plus testing) couldn't take longer than 2-3 weeks, especially at how half-assed they make them. Just announce them and show them off later if they aren't ready in time for the roster reveal.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Aug 18, 2012 17:48:53 GMT -5
QUESTION
What does it mean in Create A Moveset when you can select a move as a "favorite?" I've never figured this out.
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Waffel113
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Post by Waffel113 on Aug 18, 2012 17:49:45 GMT -5
You got me.
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Reflecto
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Post by Reflecto on Aug 18, 2012 17:49:55 GMT -5
Your random roster snub stats:
-Drew McIntyre becomes the first currently employed "wrestler" since Chris Benoit at Mania 23 to be on the Wrestlemania card and NOT make that year's WWE game. Outside of the extenuating circumstances, last time it happened was 2004.
-The Great Khali finally ends his three year streak of "only currently employed former World Champion to not make the video games." -Ezekiel Jackson takes his place in that role.
-By not making the cut, Tyler Reks and Trent Barreta both tied Brian Kendrick's modern record for longest tenured WWE wrestler to not make their WWE video game debut [Kendrick, 2003, 05-07 , debuted in SDvR 2008. Reks/Barreta, 2009-12.]
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Post by Krazee on Aug 18, 2012 17:50:01 GMT -5
i say i'm satisfied but i hope for more DLC
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Post by WarChief on Aug 18, 2012 17:50:13 GMT -5
I'm really not pleased with us losing so many guys from last year. This was the perfect year to give us the full current roster, they were only missing around twenty three in the last game, if they'd kept everyone still employed from last year, we'd only be missing ten or so.
Not having new all the new guys, forgiveable. Taking away guys who've already been in the game? Bullshit.
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FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 18, 2012 17:50:22 GMT -5
QUESTION What does it mean in Create A Moveset when you can select a move as a "favorite?" I've never figured this out. I think it makes the move give you more momentum towards a finisher. Or it might do more damage. Can't remember which.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 17:51:04 GMT -5
Printing and shipping alone takes at least a month. And creating a full character (entrances, move-set and all, plus testing) couldn't take longer than 2-3 weeks, especially at how half-assed they make them. Just announce them and show them off later if they aren't ready in time for the roster reveal. I would cut them a little more slack than that. There has to be some benefit of the doubt given that it takes time to make completely new characters and to do it right. They should do what they did with the Rock Band games, where if you owned the first Rock Band prior to getting the second, you were privy to the songs from the first game as DLC. If WWE did that with characters from prior games they'd have more space on new discs for new characters. I'm never one to complain about a roster being out of date, all I want is a complete roster of guys to play with. WWE's so topsy turvey it's impossible to keep up to date even if you were actively trying.
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Waffel113
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Post by Waffel113 on Aug 18, 2012 17:53:34 GMT -5
Your random roster snub stats: -Drew McIntyre becomes the first currently employed "wrestler" since Chris Benoit at Mania 23 to be on the Wrestlemania card and NOT make that year's WWE game. Outside of the extenuating circumstances, last time it happened was 2004. -The Great Khali finally ends his three year streak of "only currently employed former World Champion to not make the video games." -Ezekiel Jackson takes his place in that role. -By not making the cut, Tyler Reks and Trent Barreta both tied Brian Kendrick's modern record for longest tenured WWE wrestler to not make their WWE video game debut [Kendrick, 2003, 05-07 , debuted in SDvR 2008. Reks/Barreta, 2009-12.] 1. 2. Eh. Zeke ain't got no cuts anyways. And former world champion? 3. I want Trent Barreta in a video game.
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Cronant
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Post by Cronant on Aug 18, 2012 17:55:20 GMT -5
Its impossible to keep the roster up to date.
For a game coming out in October, I think a solid April/May representation should be possible, right?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 18, 2012 18:00:32 GMT -5
Its impossible to keep the roster up to date. For a game coming out in October, I think a solid April/May representation should be possible, right? This isn't April or May though. If they were doing April/May, Tensai, Ryback, Young, and O'Neil would be in the game and AJ/Sandow would be on disc. Not to mention The Bellas wouldn't be in the game, nor would Alicia Fox and others. However, I keep complaining about The Bellas because they REALLY didn't do anything to make the game. They weren't relevant from July to the end of March, won the Divas title after Mania, and they make the game, but AJ who was apart of the Daniel Bryan/Big Show storyline starting in November/December up until April isn't.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 18, 2012 18:03:59 GMT -5
They said in the roster reveal pre-show that it takes around 100 days to make a model from scratch so take that for what it's worth.
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Post by WarChief on Aug 18, 2012 18:05:54 GMT -5
They said in the roster reveal pre-show that it takes around 100 days to make a model from scratch. Well, it's a good thing they cut out WWE 12's undercard, y'know, with models that were already done.
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FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 18, 2012 18:07:03 GMT -5
If they had time to make 3 versions of Triple H, there's not a single excuse they can make for not having time to make models.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 18, 2012 18:07:03 GMT -5
They said in the roster reveal pre-show that it takes around 100 days to make a model from scratch. Well, it's a good thing they cut out WWE 12's undercard, y'know, with models that were already done. I'm not defending them, just providing info on something people were speculating on. I'll miss D-Mac to.
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Waffel113
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Post by Waffel113 on Aug 18, 2012 18:11:27 GMT -5
The dWo, join today all you Drew McIntyre marks who feel put out over the lack of Drew McIntyre in WWE '13.
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Post by Chip on Aug 18, 2012 18:12:03 GMT -5
If they had time to make 3 versions of Triple H, there's not a single excuse they can make for not having time to make models. In fairness, current Triple H is probably just a re-used model from last year and Hunter Hearst Helmsley and DX Trips most likely use the same model.
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Post by Richard on Aug 18, 2012 18:12:32 GMT -5
I would cut them a little more slack than that. There has to be some benefit of the doubt given that it takes time to make completely new characters and to do it right. You're right. It's just quite rare that they have to completely make a character from scratch. Usually they're just adding onto an already existing character they've developed and they don't take nearly as long. Even then they won't even need to create very many new characters if the cut-off period was moved back from March/April (which I assume is around where they're at) to August or so. Most characters that would need to make the cut debut or start heating up months before the cut-off period, so you'd already have a head start on creating (or updating) them. This would be a large step in the right direction to making sure that the most relevant members of the roster as possible would get in at launch. There's also the deal with DLC, where I'm sure they hold off including certain people on purpose to get extra money, but that's a whole different topic that I'm not going to get into. This is a pointless discussion though, so I'm just going to stop. It's not THAT big of a deal, but I do wish it would be changed eventually.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 18, 2012 18:16:06 GMT -5
What would piss me off is if they try and charge (through DLC) for guys they have removed from last year's game.
Don't think they will but you never know.
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