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Post by Throwback on Sept 19, 2012 20:15:29 GMT -5
Frankenstein may be the worst player I've seen yet. Fist he makes an alliance with everyone on day 1. Then he tells people he did it. Then he fails hard at the challenge. Now he's saying he wants to go home. His only saving grace this week is if the tribes hatred for Russel's hard headiness will be stronger than their distrust in Frankenstein. EDIt: {Spoiler}And dumbass is gone
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Post by fw91 on Sept 19, 2012 20:26:04 GMT -5
well that guy wasnt the sharpest tool in the shed. anyway people who i can see actually winning: Skupin, Penner, Malcolm, Denise, RC
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 21:30:26 GMT -5
That was a solid premiere, imo. All three tribes got some face time and there are people to care about outside the returnees and the celebs.
I didn't see Survivor Samoa, but I'm already hating Russell. His tribe actually had a shot if he would've just reorganized the pairs. I think if they had gone with Angie and Roxanne, Malcolm and Russell, and Denise and Zane, in that order, they'd have had a better shot.
If Penner's back to his old ways, then awesome. He's always been one of my favorite villains, alongside Coach, Rob, and Jerri. His tribe may be the most forgettable, though. Jeff was the only one to get a lot of face time tonight, although it's only one episode in and there was a lot happening on the other two tribes.
Skupin's tribe is a mixed bag for me. Artis looks like a guy who could dominate physically, but he was basically non-existent tonight around camp. RC and Abbi-Marie appear to be the Jerri/Amber combo here, with RC as the schemer and Abbi-Marie as the tag along.
One thing I hope they do is keep it at three tribes until the merge, instead of dissolving one into the other two. I know two tribes are probably easier to work with, but it would be a cool twist to have it stay a three tribe game for a while. Plus, considering how they tend to merge at twelve now, changing it up three or four episodes in, then merging two or three episodes later, makes it hard to keep up and just seems pointless to me.
Predictions after one episode: None of the returnees will win. If Russell makes it to the merger, I'll be surprised. If I had to pick a winner now, I'd give RC or Malcolm a good shot at it. They seem to be the most proactive of the new players.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 19, 2012 21:37:25 GMT -5
I might come by with more commentary later but I just want to say right now my favorite is Malcom. Guy is sharp. But most of all GOD is he charismatic. I could listen to that guy talk for hours. One of the most engaging talkers this show has had in awhile to be honest.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 19, 2012 21:41:34 GMT -5
yeah, but in every season that has had a returnee at least one of them has made it to the finals. (even though rob is the only one to win) i wanna say history repeats itself so i think skupin or penner will make it, more likely skupin bc he's very likeable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 22:06:33 GMT -5
yeah, but in every season that has had a returnee at least one of them has made it to the finals. (even though rob is the only one to win) i wanna say history repeats itself so i think skupin or penner will make it, more likely skupin bc he's very likeable. Never said I didn't think Skupin or Penner would make the finals. But I honestly can't see either of them winning. The new players are very smart and they get how the social game is played. If anything, the physical game may be the only part where the returnees have the advantage. I maintain that Russell's tribe could've won if he did the second leg instead of Denise. There's a place for the returnees, but the new players get more genre savvy each season. They might know the game better than the older guys.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 19, 2012 22:36:43 GMT -5
Especially since you're right this is a SMART crowd. Especially on Russell's tribe now that Zane is out since Denise and Malcom are both smart as f*** and are a power duo to watch for sure. And actually Angie kinda impressed me tonight too. She could be a dark horse to watch. Don't write her off because she's blonde pretty and a pageant girl guys. Roxy seems sharp enough too. Swan is in trouble.
On Penner's tribe noone's blown me out of the water with intelligence factor and it seems a bit more just sheeping along with anti-returnee rather than sheeping along with the returnee which to be honest is just as bad. But I think Dawson has potential to have a mind for the game. I don't like Jeff Kent at all but that has a lot to do with outside of the game things that would break the board rules to even speak about (shouldn't take too long to find out after a bit of research though) and to be honest I don't think he's all that sharp. I'm sure he'll be EDITED as a good player though... he's right up Probst's alpha male ally. Katie, Dana, and especially Carter have shown absolutely nothing to me so far. Dana talked but... I wasn't interested enough to really form an opinion on her. Maybe its because she's aligning with Jeff hahaha.
Then there's Skupin's tribe. RC is probably my second favorite right now for the same reasons I like Malcom. Sharp, charismatic, witty, gives good confessional. Abi Maria makes an entertaining sidekick for her. Pete is... a boring alphamale douchebag along the lines of a Benry as far as I can tell. He'll go far and bore me the whole time. I hate the amount of screentime Lisa is getting because I do not care about her a single lick so I hope RC's alliance holds and she gets taken out. Artis seems likeable but there's no way to know.
By the way... this is why I hate returnees with newbies. Hour and a half premier and between the three returnees, Lisa, and Jeff to swallow airtime we don't know a lot about a good amount of the cast. Compare that to Nicaragua's hour and a half premiere. I just hate invisible players man. I want to get to know everyone. I want to know where everyone is and have an introduction to their character and storyline. There's no excuse for the fact that I don't have strong opinions on half of Penner and Skupin's tribes...
I guess that's gonna suffice for my first impressions post.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 26, 2012 19:05:15 GMT -5
ugh oh, angie and malcolm caught in a bad showmance
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Post by RI Richmark on Sept 26, 2012 19:18:00 GMT -5
Is it me or does Penner sound like Bobby Valentine?
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Post by fw91 on Sept 26, 2012 19:23:55 GMT -5
hashtags are annoying
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Sept 26, 2012 19:25:11 GMT -5
So clearly this Carter guy is gunna win it all. One and a half episodes and not one f***ing line of dialogue.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 26, 2012 19:27:50 GMT -5
Ah yes the episode 2 old lady mental breakdown.
Malcom needs to take the time to assure Denise of his loyalty to her.. For me the MOMENT I felt that vibe that's what I would do. You gotta be aggressive about that kind of thing and not enough players are. Malcom/Denise/Angie is the majority I want on Matsing so I hope that happens.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Sept 26, 2012 19:30:37 GMT -5
Looks like Brandon and Semhar from South Pacific had a love child.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 26, 2012 19:30:55 GMT -5
you tell them denise.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Sept 26, 2012 19:33:37 GMT -5
OK, if Matsing goes to Tribal Council again, then editing REALLY needs to work on being more subtle.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 26, 2012 19:36:35 GMT -5
"Angie on the ground, OUT OF IT"
Probsts anti-blonde young girls bias showing already -_-.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 26, 2012 19:40:12 GMT -5
Haha yeah the editors broadcasted who goes to council really bad.
Between the two young girls it seems with Denise the swing vote. Id rather Angie stay if I hadn't made that clear. I think she's cute. I love her reaction shots. I think she's going to be underestimated as a player. I think she just has more potential than Roxy.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 26, 2012 19:45:42 GMT -5
Honestly is it just me or does Roxy come off kinda... jealous?
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Sept 26, 2012 19:46:35 GMT -5
Roxy's gone.
Denise won't screw over Malcom.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 26, 2012 19:47:06 GMT -5
this why i don't like 3 tribes pre merge. Saboga 2.0
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