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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 22, 2011 17:03:04 GMT -5
i feel the Warrior would've turned Heel had he lost to Hogan
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 22, 2011 19:05:18 GMT -5
The audience didn't know that once one guy had both belts the I-C title would be vacated until after Mania was over, so there was no need to give a kayfabe explanation. Going into the show, for all anyone knew, the winner of the match and both titles could have just walked out with two belts for the next year and defended them both in the same match. Easiest solution is to not even bring the subject up before Mania. They just waited until after the show was over to bring it up and have "Jack Tunney rule" that the I-C belt was vacant. I thought Hogan would win that one in the days of kayfabe. Thinking that I still was sure he'd have to vacate the IC title(or was it on the line?) either way I knew the victor wouldn't be able to keep both titles.
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 23, 2011 18:28:17 GMT -5
Two thoughts came to me while reading this thread.
First, this was one of the last instances in which I felt Vince was letting the old Apter mags lay things out for the fans. The ratings in that magazine consistently placed the I-C champ, whoever it was, in the #1 contender position under the WWF champion. So, for some of us, I suspect, it was natural for Hogan or the Warrior not to be able to be both champion and his own #1 contender at the same time (insert Chuck Norris joke here.)
Secondly, and on the other hand, what we had was somewhat unprecedented - an Intercontinental champion who beat the World champion. It had always been understood, certainly when Savage as I-C champion wrestled against Hogan as world champion, that the Intercontinental title was not in contention in a world title match, unless it was otherwise stipulated. Had Warrior lost, therefore, he would remain Intercontinental champion.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 24, 2011 14:20:54 GMT -5
I believe it was stated in the lead up to the match that it was Title vs. Title, was it not?
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Post by 747 on Dec 24, 2011 14:50:27 GMT -5
I believe it was stated in the lead up to the match that it was Title vs. Title, was it not? I believe you are correct.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 9:18:34 GMT -5
Two thoughts came to me while reading this thread. First, this was one of the last instances in which I felt Vince was letting the old Apter mags lay things out for the fans. The ratings in that magazine consistently placed the I-C champ, whoever it was, in the #1 contender position under the WWF champion. So, for some of us, I suspect, it was natural for Hogan or the Warrior not to be able to be both champion and his own #1 contender at the same time (insert Chuck Norris joke here.) Secondly, and on the other hand, what we had was somewhat unprecedented - an Intercontinental champion who beat the World champion. It had always been understood, certainly when Savage as I-C champion wrestled against Hogan as world champion, that the Intercontinental title was not in contention in a world title match, unless it was otherwise stipulated. Had Warrior lost, therefore, he would remain Intercontinental champion. Here are my thoughts on the subject. 1) I've seen many title vs. title matches in many different promotions, and you are correct, the World champion usually wins them. If the good guy "lower champion" had any sense of pride, couldn't he just vacate the belt out of respect for the title? Wouldn't it make you seem like less of a man that you lost the match, yet still have a belt? Question: Has there been an instance where the lower champion did just that? (I don't have all day to check title histories to see this actually happen.) 2) Since you bring up the "Apter mags", in 1988 they pushed a series of arena show matches between WWF Champion Hulk Hogan and I-C champion Honky Tonk Man. It was clearly stated they would be "title for title". Then Hogan lost his belt at the Main Event. Which means now the shows would no longer be title for title. The mags said something to the effect that "HTM will still defend his I-C belt against Hogan at the shows". Kinda making him out to be some sort of "fighting champion". (Funny to think about it now, but he did lose the belt in an open challenge, so he wasn't that big of a coward in kayfabe terms.)
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