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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Sept 18, 2012 9:10:26 GMT -5
Hmm losing the Doctor is not good.
Mainly just checking in.
Quick what I think on who is left.
Kami - Don't know, possible independent party/maybe Town Inspector B Natural - Feel he is town Friday Night Double H - Possibly Independant J - Don't Know could be either Latino Meat is Insane - Don't Know could be either Alex "Illusion Master" Joker - I know I'm Town Notorious - Probably Town SNS - Probably Town but less than certain
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 9:13:10 GMT -5
Hmm losing the Doctor is not good. Mainly just checking in. Quick what I think on who is left. Kami - Don't know, possible independent party/maybe Town Inspector B Natural - Feel he is town Friday Night Double H - Possibly Independant J - Don't Know could be either Latino Meat is Insane - Don't Know could be either Alex "Illusion Master" Joker - I know I'm Town Notorious - Probably Town SNS - Probably Town but less than certain So your light reads are: Town: B, Joker, Notorious Don't know: SNS, Latino, Double h, Kami
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Sept 18, 2012 9:17:59 GMT -5
^More like: Town: B, Joker, Notorious & SNS Don't Know: J, Latino DoubleH & Kami
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 9:57:53 GMT -5
I am going to do something that I don't normally do. But we are at the end of our ropes here, and we have to have EVERY SINGLE TOWN MEMBER vote the same way or we lose. Period. Its imperitive we get today right.
There was alot of talk about high opinions others have for people. Which is true. I definately have high opinions of certain players in these mafia games. So much so that this move is completely meta, as I have absolutely no in-game reason to go after this person. But we need a bold move to try to turn the tide back in our favor.
Look at who was killed on night 2 and night 3. It was the confirmed town roles of M and cageking. Why take out the confirmed town roles? Cause taking out someone else means the number of questionabley aligned players is fewer as are the places to hide.
example - Imagine if you(talking about each town member individually) and I were night killed instead of M and Cageking, then out of the 8 people left, two would be confirmed, meaning out of the other 6 people three are mafia... we have a 50/50 shot of getting one. But instead, they took out M and cageking... so we have no confirmed town left... so those three mafia members now can hide amongst the entire 8 remaining.
This is not a very advanced tactic, especially with like thinkers in the mafia. But I am targetting the person that I feel would most likely be able to make that happen.
vote: Notorious
He's already mentioned it, but he'll be on later to post his thoughts. And in-game wise, he'll be able to put up a very good arguement. But I feel pretty good about going all-in with this move.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 18, 2012 10:06:53 GMT -5
I agree SNS, but Im not too sure Notorious is our guy.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 10:09:16 GMT -5
I agree SNS, but Im not too sure Notorious is our guy. Of course YOU don't ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Dub H on Sept 18, 2012 10:15:16 GMT -5
My list would be
Possible Scum:
Kami SnS Notorious
Don't Know:
Latino Meat J B
Possible Town: Joker(yeh,basically only Joker is safe on my book) And of course me.
Well SnS,at least now you gave a GOOD explanation to why you suspect him,so my doubts about you are a little smaller.But are you sure Notorious would be the only one to think like that?
I have a feeling that one of the you,SnS or Notorious is mafiaAnd well Daime suspected Notorious too,and he was Town.
So i will FOS: Notorious FOS: SnS and wait for his response.I really am between the two.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 10:18:05 GMT -5
Well SnS,at least now you gave a GOOD explanation to why you suspect him,so my doubts about you are a little smaller.But are you sure Notorious would be the only one to think like that? Only one? No. As I have shown that I too can come up with a plan like that. Though I would be near insane to expose it NOW. There are a few others in play that could do this, but I went with the strongest suspect.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 18, 2012 10:20:47 GMT -5
Well SnS,at least now you gave a GOOD explanation to why you suspect him,so my doubts about you are a little smaller.But are you sure Notorious would be the only one to think like that? Only one? No. As I have shown that I too can come up with a plan like that. Though I would be near insane to expose it NOW. There are a few others in play that could do this, but I went with the strongest suspect. So,in a few words,you are basically going after the most clever and sneaky person,hoping they are Mafia?Or just the one that fits the M.O of the kills? Anyway,i will wait for Notorious awser before casting my vote,unless he takes too long.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 18, 2012 12:02:16 GMT -5
I think SNS and Notorious are our strongest players at the moment. I think lynching one blindly is not a road we should head down.
I still stick to Kami and B as our strongest scum players.
We should go down that road, since we do have to lynch mafia today, or else we lose the game.
Lynching is the only way we can win.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 18, 2012 12:15:14 GMT -5
I'll give my opinion now
1. Kami - Town of course
2. Inspector B Natural - Not sure but I'm leaning toward town
3. Friday Night Double H - Leaning toward Mafia
4. J - Unknown
5. Latino Meat is Insane - Could go either way
6. Alex "Illusion Master" Joker - Could go either way
7. Notorious - Not sure he's one of the strongest players so for our sake I hope he's town.
8. SNS - Leaning toward Mafia
My town list Kami Inspector B Notorious
Mafia list Double H SnS
Unknown (could go either way) J Latino Joker
We really need to get on the same page here I'm down for voting either Double H or SnS they are two that I'm picking mafia vibes from.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 18, 2012 13:29:41 GMT -5
Kami, why do you feel Inspector B is town?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 14:02:41 GMT -5
I am going to do something that I don't normally do. But we are at the end of our ropes here, and we have to have EVERY SINGLE TOWN MEMBER vote the same way or we lose. Period. Its imperitive we get today right. There was alot of talk about high opinions others have for people. Which is true. I definately have high opinions of certain players in these mafia games. So much so that this move is completely meta, as I have absolutely no in-game reason to go after this person. But we need a bold move to try to turn the tide back in our favor. Look at who was killed on night 2 and night 3. It was the confirmed town roles of M and cageking. Why take out the confirmed town roles? Cause taking out someone else means the number of questionabley aligned players is fewer as are the places to hide. example - Imagine if you(talking about each town member individually) and I were night killed instead of M and Cageking, then out of the 8 people left, two would be confirmed, meaning out of the other 6 people three are mafia... we have a 50/50 shot of getting one. But instead, they took out M and cageking... so we have no confirmed town left... so those three mafia members now can hide amongst the entire 8 remaining. This is not a very advanced tactic, especially with like thinkers in the mafia. But I am targetting the person that I feel would most likely be able to make that happen. vote: NotoriousHe's already mentioned it, but he'll be on later to post his thoughts. And in-game wise, he'll be able to put up a very good arguement. But I feel pretty good about going all-in with this move. This feels like the same thing Daime was trying to do before he had his blow-up. Trying to cast suspicion on me for the sake of suspicion. I understand not wanting to give someone a free ride through the game, but I feel like this tactic is a mistake. There's really not a lot I can say in terms to defend myself when you consider this lynch vote is based entirely on taking a chance and hoping I turn up Mafia. Like what am I supposed to say? Ignore the facts against me? Because there aren't any. You're trying to make a big move, and normally it's something I could appreciate. You're trying to take a risk, but this is far too risky, and I'm not just saying that because I'm the one you want to take a chance on. I'd be saying the same thing if you wanted to lynch anyone in this game based on a hope and a dream. When we've got a few decent leads and options, this just seems like a hail mary we don't have to take. Everything I've done so far should show you that I'm Town, but if you're not convinced of that yet, there's not much I can do. ____________________________________________________ Now for actual theories that have some weight. The three names that are popping up on most peoples' lists are Brad, B Natural, and Double H. Brad and Double H are the two I think are most likely to be Mafia as well, but I'm not convinced on Brad either way yet. If I had to lean one way on him, it'd probably be closer to him being scum. So if you look at what's happened on this page, you'll notice that two of the three suspicious people have posted their thoughts (Brad and Double H), and each lists each other as possible scum, but B Natural as being Town. To me, at least one of those two has to be scum, and the fact that they both proclaim B Natural as Town, makes me think that he would be our best lead at this point.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 14:43:34 GMT -5
I'd like to hear from J and B. What do you two think about my vote?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 18, 2012 14:48:14 GMT -5
Sorry fellows, I was actually working on something. I went back through the past few days and tallied up everybody's votes for the past few Day Phases. I thought that by looking back it might give us a few clues as to our perpetrators.
Daime: FOSes: Double H, Kami, Notorious, J Votes: Double H (Unvoted) SnS (Modkilled Day 3) Kami: FOSes: SnS, Double H Votes: SnS Evil Fluffy Bunny SMurf: FOSes: Daime, SnS Votes: (Died Night 2) Inspector B Natural Evil Cageking (Died Night 3) Friday Night Double H: FOSes: Notorious, Sns Votes: J Latino Meat is Insane: FOSes: Votes: Brad Alex "Illusion Master" Joker Notorious SnS: FOSes: Votes: Inspector B, Daime, Notorious
So basically you have J, myself, and Notorious who really haven't thrown down any votes. All of us are having suspicion cast upon us as well. Alex and Cageking also haven't really voted as of yet, but one of them is dead and the other is pretty much confirmed as town at the moment.
I'll give my thoughts on this list later on when I've formulated them, but right now I'll go ahead and address this suspicion upon me. Look at my votes again. I haven't thrown down a single one yet (Not counting joke votes) nor have I thrown down any FOSes. Does that sound like the typical MO of a Mafia member? If I were Mafia then chances are I would be much more loose with my accusations in hopes of casting suspicion on somebody. Yet I haven't condemned anyone as of yet because right now I just don't feel strongly enough about anybody to justify it.
You could also claim that I'm trying to stay under the radar, which is another typical Mafia tactic, but again it's not like I've completely vanished from the game. I haven't posted as much as I'd like, but I really don't have much to contribute information-wise right now. I'd rather wait until I had something substantial to say rather than throwing out every thought that pops into my head.
As far as I know the only scummy thing that I've done is saying that we should try and find the Roleblocker so we had a chance at a free kill. A risky move undoubtedly, but if I were Mafia again, why would I brazenly make such a suggestion? I even expressed doubts in that statement and brought up other possibilities. If I were Mafia why would I even bother with that?
Right now there are five names I feel could possibly be Mafia: Kami, Latino, SnS, J, and Double H. I have no idea who is who though. If you asked me to vote right now then I would go with my gut and vote for Double H. But I don't feel certain enough to throw down one just yet.
The Mafia has been playing smart by going after quiet players and so far it's paid off handsomely for them. If I were to guess I think we have only one Power Role left in the town and I guarantee that's who they want to go down next.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 18, 2012 14:51:19 GMT -5
Since SnS asked regarding Notorious I'm not sure. On the one hand he could indeed be playing the under the radar role in that he's avoiding making waves by not voting for anyone, but at the same time I don't know if I buy him as part of the Mafia. At this point though I'm not willing to rule out any possibilities.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Sept 18, 2012 15:32:44 GMT -5
Interesting developments and a lot of the accusations are pointing towards Kami & Double H, which adds up to my own thoughts a little.
I'd like to hear more from J at this point as he remains the blank slate.
My top 3 currently: FOS: Kami FOS: Double H FOS: J
First two because it is adding up, J for being incredibly quiet.
Latino isn't out of the woods, but he seems safer than those three to me currently.
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Notorious when you say Are you suggesting B is a potential Mafia or that you think his opinion might be valuable?
As B has responded with a possible 5 mafia options I think he is even more likely to be town as a such a wild opinion suggests uncertainty and guessing, and comparing with my own opinion and others it's all over the place which seems unlikely behaviour for the Mafia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 15:53:14 GMT -5
Notorious when you say Are you suggesting B is a potential Mafia or that you think his opinion might be valuable? I was saying that since the three people most likely to be Mafia are Brad, B Natural, and Double H, that two of them saying he's innocent makes me think he's more than likely Mafia. Because at least one of those two is more than likely Mafia as well. Either way, his statement did make me question that though. He made a heck of a lot of sense, so that put doubts into my doubts, so to speak.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 16:01:12 GMT -5
Appears I miscounted the number of players remaining. Meaning we are not actually in LYLO... if we do not lynch, and there is a night kill... we still have the numbers to play out another day.
IF we mislynch, the game is over, as the nightkill will then give mafia the numbers advantage.
That said, what I was trying to do with my play on Notorious will no longer work. And as scummy as it may seem, i'm now retracting.
unvote
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 18, 2012 16:27:41 GMT -5
My town list Kami Inspector B Notorious That town list coming from Kami screams Mafia to me. Doesn't feel right that he would list his cohorts alongside him, though.
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