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Post by the2ndevil on Sept 10, 2012 23:56:42 GMT -5
Smith Hart @smithhart1 According to my friend Jeremy Prophet who was backstage at RAW, Jerry was clinically dead for 20 min before being brought back by defibrilat O__O
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Post by TCA on Sept 10, 2012 23:57:18 GMT -5
Smith Hart @smithhart1 According to my friend Jeremy Prophet who was backstage at RAW, Jerry was clinically dead for 20 min before being brought back by defibrilat I'm not going to say it is not true by any means, because it is entirely possible. But coming from Smith Hart makes me feel dubious in that he would say something like this just to get his name reported on websites. Agreed. Glad to hear Jerry is stabilised. What a scary night for the wrestling world.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Sept 10, 2012 23:57:23 GMT -5
After watching back on the PTP/Kane DB match you can actually hear Lawler begin to snore. It's eerie just thinking about it.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 10, 2012 23:57:32 GMT -5
What's the threshold for time until the brain can't recover. When I told my girlfriend about this, she said that just 4 minutes without oxygen to the brain could lead to permanent damage. He's apparently gone 20 minutes without it, so I shudder to think at the worst case scenario.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 10, 2012 23:57:51 GMT -5
What's the threshold for time until the brain can't recover. The brain starts shutting down roughly 20 seconds after not receiving oxygen. Which is something typical of cardiac arrest. The amount of time as far as the point of no return is hard to say. It is possible if he was clinically dead for 20 minutes, he may have very severe brain damage or be a vegetable. But then again, it's hard to say depending on exactly what happened to him.
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Post by molson5 on Sept 10, 2012 23:58:02 GMT -5
Smith Hart @smithhart1 According to my friend Jeremy Prophet who was backstage at RAW, Jerry was clinically dead for 20 min before being brought back by defibrilat I can't even begin to imagine... I don't think Smith Hart is qualified to make a "clinically dead" assessment, but it sounds like that the entire locker room might have seen Lawler getting CPR for 20 minutes (or what seemed like 20 minutes to whoever Jeremy Prophet is), which explains the WO.com reports about everyone just losing it backstage. It's amazing on one hand that guys can go out and work in that environment, but for some, it was probably nice to be working, to be doing anything. As an aside, I'm glad there's not too much talk/criticism about the show going on. It just doesn't matter. The important thing is that the WWE and the arena noticed the issue immediately and sprang into action. What happens with the show is irrelevant. There's no right answer, and it doesn't matter anyway. I'm sure for some guys it's really difficult, and I bet for some, it's cathartic to out there and work and be in front of the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 23:59:45 GMT -5
www.twitlonger.com/show/j8au38This from the FB of Lawler's girlfriend Lauryn Laine McBride: Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. It has been confirmed that Jerry did have a heart attack...he is in stable condition and breathing on his own & heart is stable. I'm getting on the first flight out of here to be with him & will keep everyone posted. He is a strong man and we will get him back at his best as soon as I can get him home! I love you so so much baby!!
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Post by Krimzon on Sept 10, 2012 23:59:51 GMT -5
There's no way he could've been clinically dead for 20 minutes and have his body functioning on its own, if at all. If he were dead for 20 minutes, they most likely would've called it before it hit that mark.
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Post by Phil Parent on Sept 11, 2012 0:00:04 GMT -5
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Sept 11, 2012 0:00:13 GMT -5
Michael Clarke Duncan passed away because of complications from his heart attack. He was without oxygen in the brain too long and slowly his organs began to shut down one by one until he passed.
PRAY for Lawler. Make it through this.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 11, 2012 0:00:47 GMT -5
What's the threshold for time until the brain can't recover. The brain starts shutting down roughly 20 seconds after not receiving oxygen. Which is something typical of cardiac arrest. The amount of time as far as the point of no return is hard to say. It is possible if he was clinically dead for 20 minutes, he may have very severe brain damage or be a vegetable. But then again, it's hard to say depending on exactly what happened to him. In that case I think that bit of news is bull. Cole mentioned that Jerry was responsive and stabilized.
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Post by steamboat1 on Sept 11, 2012 0:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by RareTradU on Sept 11, 2012 0:01:11 GMT -5
Well just recently Micheal Clarke Duncan went being dead for 5 minutes and they brought him back and he lived for a few months(?). His organs shut down afterwards though and that's how he passed last week. Hoping that report isn't accurate since EMTs were there almost instantly. Can you imagine how bad a scene that could've been if WWE didn't have ringside doctors? I know we hate them when they are out there to stop the blood flowing but thank God they were there tonight or we'd be short one King.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Sept 11, 2012 0:01:45 GMT -5
I don't want to guess, but any UK posters may back me up. That snore... Eurgh! Reminded me of the snore heard from Tommy Cooper as he died on stage on live TV from a heart attack in 1984. I hope and pray (and I'm not a religious man in the slightest!) that Jerry is okay.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 11, 2012 0:01:58 GMT -5
20 minutes? I hope it wasn't that long. Actually, I hope it wasn't at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 0:02:05 GMT -5
Aw, Jerry.
I mean, you do wear me out, but not THAT MUCH.
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I know no one lives forever, but not now, Keeng.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 11, 2012 0:02:38 GMT -5
There's no way he could've been clinically dead for 20 minutes and have his body functioning on its own, if at all. If he were dead for 20 minutes, they most likely would've called it before it hit that mark. That's what I'm thinking too. They may not have gotten a response out of him for 20 minutes, but it's extremely unlikely that he was clinically dead for 20 minutes and now is breathing on his own. I know stranger things have happened in the medical field, but that doesn't seem plausible at all.
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Post by molson5 on Sept 11, 2012 0:04:32 GMT -5
What's the threshold for time until the brain can't recover. The brain starts shutting down roughly 20 seconds after not receiving oxygen. Which is something typical of cardiac arrest. The amount of time as far as the point of no return is hard to say. It is possible if he was clinically dead for 20 minutes, he may have very severe brain damage or be a vegetable. But then again, it's hard to say depending on exactly what happened to him. But doing CPR for 20 minutes doesn't mean his brain is without oxygen for 20 minutes. In fact, CPR helps to supply the brain with oxygen, it keeps the blood flow going while they try to get the heart to beat on its own. There's been examples of people getting CPR for hours and then recovering fully.
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Post by xCompackx on Sept 11, 2012 0:05:17 GMT -5
Thank god for the WWE doctors. Thoughts are with you, King.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 11, 2012 0:06:44 GMT -5
The brain starts shutting down roughly 20 seconds after not receiving oxygen. Which is something typical of cardiac arrest. The amount of time as far as the point of no return is hard to say. It is possible if he was clinically dead for 20 minutes, he may have very severe brain damage or be a vegetable. But then again, it's hard to say depending on exactly what happened to him. In that case I think that bit of news is bull. Cole mentioned that Jerry was responsive and stabilized. Well, he said responsive to light, which I believe means pupils do respond meaning there's still blood flow and some brain activity to the eyes. Stabilized just means that he's not getting worse. Critical but stable is way different from perfectly healthy. Technically, a comatose patient is stable if they aren't getting worse. You also have to take the CPR into account, if it was done properly it could give the body at least somewhat normal oxygen flow, which could delay the negative effects. Not saying I believe it, but it's possible to be clinically dead for a while and still recover, although usually it requires being frozen.
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