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Post by norsisclouds on Sept 30, 2012 20:37:49 GMT -5
Yea. I remember Maria complaining about Melina wanting to do more adventrous things in their matches and do more spots, but I didn't see what the big deal was...look at the matches where Melina actually got to do the spots she wanted, when she was up against McCool and Beth Phoenix, they were memorable bouts. I think that's one of the occasions Maria spoke words of wisdom. Melina had some unique and memorable spots during her career, but she also had many moments of trying things that didn't work out and things got sloppy. I think she needed someone like Finlay to help reel her in and tell her when she was going too far. Your opponent needs to be comfortable with whatever you're doing; with girls like Beth and Michelle things will probably pan out better than with Maria. I also think there's something to be said for stretching yourself as a performer. There's nothing wrong with trying to be a bit more adventrous it doesn't mean you have to do anything dangerous, but trying a new thing can work. That was one of Trish's greatest assets...she'd work out a match with another wrestler and always try to do something new to draw the crowd into the match.
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Post by JCBaggee on Sept 30, 2012 20:42:47 GMT -5
They should either bring her up as Barrett's angry cousin or Regal's daughter who finally escaped confinement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 21:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 21:10:47 GMT -5
Yea. I remember Maria complaining about Melina wanting to do more adventrous things in their matches and do more spots, but I didn't see what the big deal was...look at the matches where Melina actually got to do the spots she wanted, when she was up against McCool and Beth Phoenix, they were memorable bouts. I think that's one of the occasions Maria spoke words of wisdom. Melina had some unique and memorable spots during her career, but she also had many moments of trying things that didn't work out and things got sloppy. I think she needed someone like Finlay to help reel her in and tell her when she was going too far. Your opponent needs to be comfortable with whatever you're doing; with girls like Beth and Michelle things will probably pan out better than with Maria. Oh no, I don't even mean ring-wise. I mean storyline and character-wise. She had ideas to flesh her character out more and she REALLY wanted to be the next "it" diva, but they kept her on a leash in terms of that. Melina's problem as a wrestler is her size. You look at girls like Michelle or Beth, and they're large enough that their physical strength helps them avoid coordination botches and can carry bad wrestlers with no conditioning to good matches. Melina's much smaller than they are, and so her upper body strength is going to be a lot less. So when she tries to get a poor wrestler help with a move, the outcome is going to not be good because she doesn't have that kind of strength where she can just go with it and end up making it look good. When Melina was put in the ring with other talented women who could match her, she was capable of putting on the best matches with that person that anyone could give. Alone, she wasn't the best ringworker, but she had great chemistry with anyone who had skills. In any case, I really wish Melina would do a shoot interview about her character, because if you ever talk to her about what she had in mind and how she studies a character, it starts to feel really disappointing that she wasn't able to do it.
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Post by PKO on Sept 30, 2012 21:53:54 GMT -5
I think that's one of the occasions Maria spoke words of wisdom. Melina had some unique and memorable spots during her career, but she also had many moments of trying things that didn't work out and things got sloppy. I think she needed someone like Finlay to help reel her in and tell her when she was going too far. Your opponent needs to be comfortable with whatever you're doing; with girls like Beth and Michelle things will probably pan out better than with Maria. I also think there's something to be said for stretching yourself as a performer. There's nothing wrong with trying to be a bit more adventrous it doesn't mean you have to do anything dangerous, but trying a new thing can work. That was one of Trish's greatest assets...she'd work out a match with another wrestler and always try to do something new to draw the crowd into the match. Absolutely...I just think Melina over-stretched at times. Like I said, I think she just needed someone to reel her in at times. Trish is a good name to mention because she tried the new stuff with established workers who could take it, like Victoria, and kept it simple with the less experienced girls. Like her title match with Candice; it was unspectacular, but a well worked match with someone so green. I think Melina was too eager at times. It's funny Maria's name was mentioned actually because I saw an awful match between the two live when Maria just started wrestling regularly, and the two big botches were when they were going for god knows what. With Maria you keep it simple; they didn't and that's what still stands out now years later. Luckily there was another divas match (two divas matches!) which was much better on the same night.
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Post by worldsstrongestman on Sept 30, 2012 23:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by the2ndevil on Sept 30, 2012 23:22:44 GMT -5
Between the Melina/McCool Night Of Champions matches, I liked the one from '09 better. The problem with the '10 one is it was a lumberjill match, and those matches take your focus of the people in the ring and onto the lumberjacks/jills, because they always play into the outcome of the match.
I had heard Michelle and Melina got a talking to about some of the spots they did in '09. That was a brutal match. I loved it.
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Oct 1, 2012 9:46:01 GMT -5
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 1, 2012 11:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Oct 1, 2012 11:42:08 GMT -5
And what grade is she in?
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Post by Lardlad on Oct 1, 2012 11:42:36 GMT -5
Who is this girl? I'd like to see her in a match with Natalya ASAP.
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Post by CH Punk on Oct 1, 2012 11:43:37 GMT -5
Mercedes KV, she's an indie wrestler from Chaotic Wrestling who was signed last month.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 11:48:44 GMT -5
Mercedes KV, she an indie wrestler from Chaotic Wrestling who was signed last month. Just looked her up on Wiki. She's 20 years old. It's official, she's the first person signed by WWE who is younger then I am. This makes me sad.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 1, 2012 11:52:12 GMT -5
Mercedes KV, she an indie wrestler from Chaotic Wrestling who was signed last month. Just looked her up on Wiki. She's 20 years old. It's official, she's the first person signed by WWE who is younger then I am. This makes me sad. Paige is also 20.
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Post by CH Punk on Oct 1, 2012 11:55:25 GMT -5
Just looked her up on Wiki. She's 20 years old. It's official, she's the first person signed by WWE who is younger then I am. This makes me sad. Paige is also 20. In fact, Mercedes is older than Paige.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 12:14:50 GMT -5
Just looked her up on Wiki. She's 20 years old. It's official, she's the first person signed by WWE who is younger then I am. This makes me sad. Paige is also 20. Oh. Well crap. Atleast there's nobody that young on the male side....right?
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Post by 543Y2J on Oct 1, 2012 12:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Oct 1, 2012 12:36:15 GMT -5
God, if she doesn't look like Mickie. Just looked her up on Wiki. She's 20 years old. It's official, she's the first person signed by WWE who is younger then I am. This makes me sad. When Kelly Kelly was first signed, she was 18, as was Rene Dupree.
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Oct 1, 2012 12:49:28 GMT -5
Who is this girl? I'd like to see her in a match with Natalya ASAP. Audrey Marie. She's not the greatest in the ring, but she's been improving and she seems pretty into it. She's had a couple matches on NXT that have aired, but I'd recommend some of the NXT live matches that people have recorded- I think there was one with her, Emma, and Buggy that was pretty good. I quite like her so far.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Oct 1, 2012 12:50:52 GMT -5
I think I mentioned before that she looks like Mickie James if she absorbed Stephanie McMahon.
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