JDviant
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Post by JDviant on Oct 2, 2012 20:06:26 GMT -5
What gets me is this part: Yeah, because nobody thinks of Sean Connery or Roger Moore or Pearce Brosnan for that sauve spy they used to play, do they? I still call Matt Damon Jason Bourne unless I stop to catch myself.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 2, 2012 20:08:03 GMT -5
Sounds ungrateful to me.
She was a Bond girl, and a good one.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 2, 2012 20:10:34 GMT -5
What gets me is this part: Yeah, because nobody thinks of Sean Connery or Roger Moore or Pearce Brosnan for that sauve spy they used to play, do they? Of course not, just like nobody thought of Christopher Reeve as a superhero. Nobody thinks of Hugh Jackman as a superhero, David Duchovny as an FBI agent chasing aliens, Christopher Lloyd as the inventor of time travel, Tony Shalhoub as a detective with OCD, or Bill Murray, Dan Akroyd, Harold Ramis, and Ernie Hudson as paranormal eliminators.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 2, 2012 20:11:47 GMT -5
What gets me is this part: Yeah, because nobody thinks of Sean Connery or Roger Moore or Pearce Brosnan for that sauve spy they used to play, do they? Of course not, just like nobody thought of Christopher Reeve as a superhero. Nobody thinks of Hugh Jackman as a superhero, David Duchovny as an FBI agent chasing aliens, Christopher Lloyd as the inventor of time travel, Tony Shalhoub as a detective with OCD, or Bill Murray, Dan Akroyd, Harold Ramis, and Ernie Hudson as paranormal eliminators. To be fair, I hated Monk, so I always think of Tony Shalhoub as a sad sack taxi driver. Point still stands, though.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Oct 2, 2012 20:12:08 GMT -5
Hell, Johnny Depp will never live down his role as Jack Sparrow. He's Jack Sparrow for life now.
The lead trio from Twilight will ALWAYS be remembered for that series.
Ditto for the people in Harry Potter who played the students.
And I kind of doubt anyone will let the cast members of The Avengers live down their respective roles.
So on and so forth.
Basically, I can guaran-damn-tee that every actor that has entered public consciousness has at least one role that will stick with them always and forever.
So, in other words. Get. The. f***. Off. It. Famke.
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B.D. Neon
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Post by B.D. Neon on Oct 2, 2012 20:30:31 GMT -5
well, la di da, your majesty.
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 2, 2012 20:35:09 GMT -5
Is it any more demeaning than doing an Asylum movie?
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Oct 2, 2012 20:41:56 GMT -5
Is it any more demeaning than doing an Asylum movie? Nothing is more demeaning than an Asylum flick
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 2, 2012 20:46:22 GMT -5
Is it any more demeaning than doing an Asylum movie? Nothing is more demeaning than an Asylum flick But, Richard Grieco walking. And at least Asylum is in on the joke, and they've realized they make terrible movies.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 2, 2012 20:47:29 GMT -5
I'm amazed how the words "Richard Grieco walking" can cause me to instantly smile after all this time. Man, that movie...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 20:50:16 GMT -5
I like the "but that's okay" line at the end. Get over yourself Jean.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on Oct 2, 2012 20:55:09 GMT -5
Ideas to unpack:
1) Most 'Bond Girls' are in fact women. Using the age of majority as a model to determine what differentiates a girl from a woman, it's anyone over or under the age of 18 years (like the Britney Spears song). It's a matter of language and perception: by calling a woman a 'girl', you infantilize her. When talking about the actors who've played Bond, you call them the 'Bond men', not the 'Bond boys', no? The heterosexist bias treats men as men, but women as girls. The way we talk reinforces that perception.
2) Most 'Bond Girls' have no identity or character outside of Bond, the protagonist of the series. Meaning: they are not important except in relation to Bond; Bond's actions motivates them to act, not their own actions motivating their character. Typically 'Bond Girls' are characters who Bond sleeps with, wants to sleep with, or has slept with. How many 'Bond Girls' have an identity or character outside her body and looks? See: Ursula Andress in "Dr. No." The age bias goes both ways. How many people think of M as a 'Bond Girl'? Probably not many, because Bond's not trying to sleep with her, plus she's not presented as being sexually desirable (for Bond within the narrative, for the presumed heterosexual male majority watching the film).
3) No one singles out the gender of someone like Q as the key condition to his identity, because masculinity is an assumed given. No one calls him a 'Bond Boy'. Pretty much everyone's examples (barring one or two) in this thread talks about male characters without mentioning the gender of that character first. But the body of women is the primary marked difference that is identified as being 'not male/masculine'. No one talks about Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter because he's a man, no one sees him for his gender as such. In a Stephen Colbert-sense of not seeing difference ('I don't see race' becomes 'I don't see gender'), the gender bias of identifying women for their womanliness first (and only) as opposed to the naturalizing, universalizing, and effacing of how masculinity and maleness as a constructed default wouldn't be necessary, because then the genders would be truly equal (albeit very backwards). But Colbert purposefully spoofs how whiteness (embodied or culturally constructed) is taken within media and media representations as obvious. Sometimes you need to draw attention to how people generalize their personal situatedness (gender, race, class, sexuality, age, ability, geography, etc.) without realizing how they generalize in the first place.
Which is what Janssen is doing with this exchange:
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 2, 2012 20:58:41 GMT -5
Nothing is more demeaning than an Asylum flick But, Richard Grieco walking. And at least Asylum is in on the joke, and they've realized they make terrible movies. But not Fakme, apparently. www.theasylum.cc/product.php?id=162
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 2, 2012 20:59:03 GMT -5
I have always thought of Bond girls as 'girls in Bond movies'. Right there. To think that's demeaning is silly. The roles themselves may be tongue in cheek and such, but it's not as if anyone's forcing the actress to take 'em.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 2, 2012 21:01:12 GMT -5
But, Richard Grieco walking. And at least Asylum is in on the joke, and they've realized they make terrible movies. But not Fakme, apparently. www.theasylum.cc/product.php?id=162I've actually seen that movie. I didn't realise it was an Asylum release because it wasn't particularly bad. It wasn't that good either, it was just...middling.
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Corporate H
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Post by Corporate H on Oct 2, 2012 21:14:47 GMT -5
Is she forgetting that the reason she's not a model anymore and that she got to direct that film in the first place is because she was a "girl" character in a "Bond" film? Get over yourself.
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Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 2, 2012 21:22:10 GMT -5
Okay. I'll just call her DP from now on. Let's try that one on, shall we?
The ONLY person that can come out and say that being identified with a single role is a detriment is Alfonso Ribeiro. The man is in his 40s and still has to do "The Carlton."
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Post by Cela on Oct 2, 2012 21:27:54 GMT -5
Okay. I'll just call her DP from now on. Let's try that one on, shall we? The ONLY person that can come out and say that being identified with a single role is a detriment is Alfonso Ribeiro. The man is in his 40s and still has to do "The Carlton." Screech, Gary Coleman, Urkel, softcore porn actresses, most people on reality tv shows and Jake Lloyd.
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 2, 2012 21:29:04 GMT -5
Okay. I'll just call her DP from now on. Let's try that one on, shall we? The ONLY person that can come out and say that being identified with a single role is a detriment is Alfonso Ribeiro. The man is in his 40s and still has to do "The Carlton." Maybe, but he dated Maryse, so it's even.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 2, 2012 21:30:23 GMT -5
Okay. I'll just call her DP from now on. Let's try that one on, shall we? The ONLY person that can come out and say that being identified with a single role is a detriment is Alfonso Ribeiro. The man is in his 40s and still has to do "The Carlton." Maybe, but he dated Maryse, so it's even. No, he dated Skirt Tiffany.
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