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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 14, 2012 15:34:21 GMT -5
I wonder if Goldberg realizes that Ryback says 'Wake up' during his entrance sometimes... I think Goldberg's got the collegiate and pro football background. Also, Goldberg spent a relatively short time training to be a wrestler. It took somewhere close to eight years of training before Ryback became a regular on TV. After that much time, I would HOPE Ryback would be better than Goldberg was in 1997 and 1998.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 14, 2012 15:36:27 GMT -5
Goldberg walked right into WWE's trap. That couldn't have been any easier.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 14, 2012 16:09:23 GMT -5
There's more: Scotty Riggs stated, “Take it as a complement that the kid is unsuccessfully trying to outshine you!!” Former WCW announcer Mark Madden also noted earlier, “Ryback thinks he’s superior to @goldberg? Ryback is a Xerox of a Xerox. Goldberg was an organic phenomenon. We’ll see how Ryback winds up.” Goldberg wrote “Case closed!” in response to the following remark: “Ryback is a better athlete than @goldberg? I don’t remember seeing Ryback play in the NFL. #ShowSomeRespect.”
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 14, 2012 16:59:08 GMT -5
Considering WWE can't resist going on "Hey, remember when we kicked WCW's ass, huh? HUH???" tangents every so often, and Triple H still takes petulant potshots at Goldberg in interviews now and then, Ryback's probably just saying what he thinks his bosses want to hear. And he's probably right.
Not that that makes this any less petty and childish, mind you.
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Post by thetimetraveler on Oct 14, 2012 19:51:00 GMT -5
Goldberg is right that he was a better athlete. I always liked how he tried to work in some interesting moves into his short squashes. Were they good matches? No, but I remember Goldberg doing backflips, military presses into powerslams, that weird flipping neckbreaker and of course the spear/Jackhammer combo. He was certainly more interesting than Ryback is currently.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Oct 14, 2012 20:10:17 GMT -5
Somebody call Kevin Nash because I smell a double work
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 14, 2012 20:24:27 GMT -5
I don't get this.
He has a point in saying he's not a Goldberg rip off. Anyone who says that is wrong. Is Brodus a ripoff? Was Kozlov or Khali? It's just a big dude that uses power moves. Whoopty do. If Skip had hair I guess all this idiocy would not be taking place.
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 14, 2012 20:33:39 GMT -5
Im with ryback sure goldbreg was a better athlete but still id take ryback in a wrestling match golberg wasnt a good wrestler
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 3:24:21 GMT -5
Former WCW announcer Mark Madden also noted earlier, “Ryback thinks he’s superior to @goldberg? Ryback is a Xerox of a Xerox. Goldberg was an organic phenomenon. We’ll see how Ryback winds up.” I understand what he means but what's so organic about a wrestler being booked into an undefeated streak?
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Post by machomuta on Oct 15, 2012 3:40:39 GMT -5
golberg wasnt a good wrestler Maybe not, but he was still better then Ryback.
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Post by Chip Jordan on Oct 15, 2012 7:03:18 GMT -5
I think Goldberg himself would admit he was in it for the money. He has admitted that it was for the money on one of the late night talk shows. His story of how he got in the business was that his accountant called him one day and told him to go get more money, so now he rolls around on the floor with guys in their underwear. He went on talking about how wrestling is fake but it's a paycheque. Saying that wrestling is fake was hardly breaking news, but his tone and demeanour showed no respect for the business. I've got no problem with Ryback talking about Goldberg like this. The more talent line is debatable and one that I disagree with but it's not like he's disrespecting Ric Flair. Veteran or not Goldberg's reputation, actions and own words showed no respect or love for the art of wrestling. You don't need to respect someone who never showed it in the first place. If the actor portraying your favourite superhero didn’t like the comic books do you lose respect for them? Does it affect the quality of their work? Whilst in the ring, Goldberg took this business far more seriously than many guys who have been life long fans.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Oct 15, 2012 15:53:18 GMT -5
Isn't the biggest reveal of this story that Ryback wrestles for free!?
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 19, 2012 23:25:02 GMT -5
www.pwmania.com/goldberg-addresses-comparisons-ryback-goldberg-chants-matchesGoldberg addressed comments made by Ryback in WWE Magazine when he joined Washington Redskins defensive end and weight loss champion Chuck Carroll on 4th & Pain this week. The comments begin around the 8:30 mark in the video and last for about five minutes. During the WWE Magazine interview, Ryback said comparisons between the two don’t bother him, but that “people are misinformed.” “People see a big guy with a shaved head who’s intense, and they draw those comparisons,” said Ryback. “I will say this: Goldberg did this for the money. He was never a fan of wrestling. I do this because I have a passion for it, and that’s the biggest difference between Goldberg and me. I’m not here to make five million dollars and then walk away. I’m here for life. And, I firmly believe that I’m much better than he was in the ring. He was great, and I was a fan of his when I was younger. But, I feel I’m a better athlete and wrestler than Goldberg ever was, and people are going to see that over time.” Goldberg said in response, “I’m flattered that throughout his rise people have been chanting my name. I don’t think it’s a knock on him whatsoever. ” “I take no offense to it. To be compared against a guy right now who is (going for a title) … who hopefully will be a major superstar for these guys is kind of flattering.” “For people to still be chanting my name six years, seven years, eight years removed from the business—that’s a huge honor. Any comparisons in the positive note is a honor for me.” Goldberg also made his weekly NFL picks with the show. Listeners can pick with Goldberg and the show at 4thAndPain.com.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 23:42:44 GMT -5
Classy response from Goldberg there.
Him managing to say 'fair play to the guy,' whilst saying he still gets cheered and is still recognised by fans is pretty cool. Regardless of who's better in the ring or whatnot, Goldberg was one of the biggest stars in the wrestling World for a few years, and people recognise that.
To use an oft thrown around shoot interview phrase, he had "IT".
Does Ryback? We'll see in 5/10/15 years times.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 20, 2012 2:15:27 GMT -5
Im with ryback sure goldbreg was a better athlete but still id take ryback in a wrestling match golberg wasnt a good wrestler How can you "take" Ryback when he has never had one good match ever? I'm not saying he can't, but he has not yet. Goldberg, whether he was carried or not, has at least. So, by burden of proof he was better until proven otherwise. It's like someone saying they're a better baseball player than someone who has hit at least a few home runs, without having ever gotten a single home run in their life themselves. The proof is in the rice and/or pudding as Kevin Nash once said. . If Ryback's a better wrestler, we will see better matches. Hasn't happened yet though.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Oct 20, 2012 3:11:56 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Punk match does for Ryback what the DDP match did for Goldberg. That was his first really great match, and working with Punk can only help Ryback.
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Post by The Shareholder is nude on Oct 20, 2012 9:11:56 GMT -5
The whole "respect the veteran thing" is BS. My dad worked at a place where there was a guy who had been there 35 years and was a known pedophile. he never got caught but he was always going on about some hot 13 year old he saw driving by the local catholic high school. I also worked once with a guy who had been where I was for 40 years and he was a wife beating drunk and I am supposed to respect him cause he is a veteran"
Respect is EARNED its not given freely because of longevity. I have more respect for David Arquette based on his actions than I ever will for Goldberg.
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Post by babyfootball on Oct 20, 2012 9:44:27 GMT -5
Inarguable facts: 1) Goldberg was very, very successful, albeit only for a handful of years. 2) Goldberg started his training late in life, hence by the peak of his popularity, he had been wrestling for a shorter time than Ryback has until now. 3) Ryback was pushed from the beginning of the character as somebody to pay close attention to and to chant for. Goldberg was thrown out on TV and other than his dominant booking featured no frills or fanfare. Ryback started out with less frills and fanfare than Goldberg. He was squashing random local jobbers that never even looked like they stood a chance, while Goldberg defeated quite a few notable superstars during his first few matches. I actually think that it made Ryback stand out more that he was squashing no-names than it did Golberg taking on the Hugh Morruses of the world, based on the fact that you never see local jobbers anymore. In a backwards sort of way, that kind of booking actually makes future intentions more known than Goldberg taking on the likes of Jerry Flynn.
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Post by Throwback on Oct 20, 2012 11:07:08 GMT -5
Some of the responses here vilifying him for daring be in it for the money just kill me. Know why I go to to work? The money. I doubt there's a single person in the business that would wrestle just for fun or minimum wage. I also take issue with people saying he doesn't care about his fans when he obviously does and has stated as such many, many times. Hell, he said that's why he didn't want to turn heel during Russo's reign...his young fans. But hey, it's not Cena saying it, so boo this man. On that note, know who else is in it for the money? That Hogan guy who walked out on WWE for them daring not pay him what he believed he was worth. That Lesnar guy who's only doing like ten appearances for major, major money. All the guys that came to WWE instead of rotting away in the indies for a minor percentage of the same money. It's just silly. My belief is you should always try to get as much money out of your job as possible. But your job shouldn't revolve around the money. It should be about being happy with what your are doing and having a point of purpose and satisfaction. He wasn't a fan of wrestling before, during or after his tenure. Therefore I understand the "he did it for the money" argument. He had no love for the business so it's questionable why he got involved in the first place.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 20, 2012 11:50:54 GMT -5
I have no problem if you are in for the money,as long as you respect wrestling itself and it fans,which Goldberg apparently does.
I agree with what was said above,for me you should want to make more money,but the more important is do something you like.
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